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发帖数: 61690 | 1 The John Kasich campaign criticized 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney for
saying he will vote for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in Tuesday's Utah caucuses.
"The fact is the establishment has gotten it wrong this entire primary and
it is unfortunate to see that Mitt Romney is getting bad political advice,”
John Weaver, chief strategist for Kasich for America said in a statement
late Friday afternoon. “John Kasich is best positioned to stop Donald Trump
in the Midwest, Mid-Atlantic and Pacific coast state... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3556 | 2 Marco Rubio’s campaign says supporters of the Florida senator should back
John Kasich in Ohio on Tuesday if they want to stop Donald Trump.
“If you are a Republican primary voter in Ohio and you want to defeat
Donald Trump, your best chance in Ohio is John Kasich,” Alex Conant, Rubio
’s communications director, told CNN.
“The same is true here in Florida,” Conant said, emphasizing that Rubio is
the candidate best positioned to beat the real-estate mogul in the state’s
primary Tuesday for its 99 ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11523 | 3 如果kasich退出
建制派全力支持cruz
川普真未必能拿到1237
现在kasich要是支撑到CA
川普拿到1237的几率大增
看kasich在各州的poll都是个位数
整个一搅屎棍，而kasich的voter跟川普一点都不重叠
明显就是恶心cruz
最后要是川普选kasich当vp，就真做实了丫是川普深喉了 |
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发帖数: 38600 | 4 Kasich: Trump and Cruz ‘Should Consolidate Behind Me’
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/27/kasich-trump-and-cruz
artial transcript as follows:
TODD: Ted Cruz’s campaign is repeatedly called for you to get out, saying a
vote for you is a vote for Donald Trump. … If you thought your position in
this race strengthened Trump, would you get out?
KASICH: Chuck, I’m beating Hillary by 11 points. I’m the only one that can
win in the fall. And as you noticed the narrative over the last week has
been... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 7340 | 5 Ted因为拉链门要掉粉，原本预计Walker带过去的人数也没有了，Ted不会有戏，Walker
带头endorse了Kasich，以后有政客endorse Ted的可能性很小了。Ted就是完了，
Kasich本来就没什么粉，现在加点新的也比不过Trump。Kasich分了Ted的票。Ted掉的
粉未必会去Kasich，比如那些不喜欢establishment的
Walker 有一次采访倒是说了，他支持票数高的当提名人，我看他有可能是骑墙派，
Endorse Kasich倒是不会对Trump有什么影响，但也能把establishment糊弄过去，两边
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发帖数: 7961 | 6 Ted Cruz, John Kasich join forces to stop Donald Trump
The campaigns of Ted Cruz and John Kasich say they've ceded upcoming states
to each other to try to block Donald Trump from gaining all 1,237 delegates
needed to claim the GOP nomination.
Donald Trump blasted Ted Cruz and John Kasich for teaming up in a last-ditch
effort to block his path to the Republican presidential nomination.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 22m22 minutes ago
Lyin' Ted and Kasich are mathematically dead and totally des... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1283 | 7 【 以下文字转载自 USelection 俱乐部 】
发信人: cliffmudd (克女婿), 信区: USelection
标 题: Kasich votes McCain instead of Trump
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 1 15:40:11 2016, 美东)
Ohio Gov. John Kasich voted Monday for 2008 Republican nominee John McCain
instead of for 2016 Republican nominee Donald Trump.
Kasich wrote in McCain's name at the top of the ticket, Kasich spokesman
Chris Schrimpf said, on his absentee ballot.
Kasich ran against Trump for the Republican nomination, and has been a
prominent holdout ever since d... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3942 | 8 The gloves are off in the fight between John Kasich and Donald Trump.
Well, technically they've been off sincelast Friday. But the Kasich campaign
released a Web ad Tuesday directly attacked Trump with a darker tone than
any other candidate has used so far to go after the business mogul.
The spot features retired Air Force Col. Tom Moe speaking at an event in
Ohio, the same day Trump held a rally in Columbus. Moe, who the Kasich
campaign identifies as a former Vietnam POW,paraphrases aquote
from... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3447 | 9 我觉得Kasich留下来对Trump不利。如果没有Kasich，Trump必然能拿到足够的票数。
如果没有Kasich当然Cruz应该能多拿一点儿，但是想动摇Trump是不可能的。他过于自
信了。
现在Kasich留下来，显然就是为了要尽量没人能够拿到足够的票数。 |
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发帖数: 2018 | 10 啪啪啪。
Ohio Gov. John Kasich denied Sunday that he is planning to challenge
President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election, saying he hopes
the President can steer his White House from chaos to stability.
"I'm rooting for him to get it together," Kasich said on CNN's "State of the
Union." "We all are."
The Republican governor said he was trying to be a "responsible voice" and
offered hope that Trump -- whom Kasich unsuccessfully challenged in the 2016
Republican presidential primary and ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4478 | 11 1.Kasich选票多，带来的票也多。
2.特别是Ohio，19张选举人票。最重要的摇摆州之二。
3.Kasich一个州没赢，甚至只有NH进前三，死硬着撑下去，Trump很开心，复读机和僵
尸怪郁闷到死。很可能是和Trump一伙的。
4.后面东北部的PA、MA、VT等州，Kasich还能继续当第二，帮助Trump杀死复读机和僵
尸。
5.胖州长发动自杀式袭击和复读机在NH同归于尽，然后退选，这个活对VP人选来说略脏
，而且时机略早。很可能是Trump还有后手。
6.Trump和胖州长体重太高，大选时两个大胖子欺负一个女人，观感不好。 |
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发帖数: 2054 | 12 因为Ted Cruz这个phony是绝对不会退选的.
虽然也很希望Kasich能赢, 但现实情况已经是不可能了.
如果他能早点退选, Rubio昨天应该拿下了Virginia.
Kasich可能是想当VP.
但在Trump手下干VP, 对他的政治生涯绝对会是一个大污点.
更何况, 只要美国经济今年不崩, Trump赢general election的机会接近负数.
Kasich应主动退选, 同时endorse Rubio, 用来换取未来的VP ticket. |
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发帖数: 1488 | 13 Kasich下来，Ohio给了Trump，整个事情就结束了。Kasich是攻击Trump比较少的人之一
，不能说没有，比R和C少多了。
现在很想知道Ohio在Kasich走了以后会把票都放给谁。 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 14 by Jeff Dunetz via "The Lid"
John Kasich keeps talking about how when he was the Chairman of the House
Budget Committee during the Clinton Administration the federal budget was
balanced. That’s just not true. The last time the federal budget was
balanced was during the Eisenhower administration. The federal budget was
not balanced in any of Bill Clinton’s eight years as President. Not once!
The federal government has two types of debt public debt and intra-
governmental debt. Public debt is com... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2216 | 15 从Kasich近期的表现看，他自己估计都没有指望能赢初选。但是如果Rubio下去，那么
他就会成为establishment的唯一代言人（假设他能赢Ohio）。这个时候，就有谈判的
空间了。
如果Kasich成为VP候选人，并且有相当实权，这应该是Trump和establishment都能接受
的方案。
对Kasich自己来说，如果真能干出些什么政绩，等上4年或8年再去选总统，也是可以接
受的选择。 |
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发帖数: 5818 | 16 rubio 让他的ohio voter 投 kasich；kasich 完全放弃 FL，这样kasich voter 投
rubio，正好是romney plan，然后heading to broker convention。
昨天表面的civil debate，都是表象，背后的手段层出不穷，15号真说不定咋回事。 |
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发帖数: 10469 | 17 州长看来不尿这货,他不在FL竞选是对，根本没希望浪费精力干哈。他嘴上否定，选民
一般就不会无聊
John Kasich's campaign on Friday flatly rejected Marco Rubio's suggestion
that they swap voters in each others home states in order to ensure Rubio
wins in Florida, and Kasich wins in Ohio.
"We were going to win in OH without his help, just as he's going to lose in
Florida without ours," Kasich spokesman Rob Nichols said in a tweet. |
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发帖数: 554 | 18 cruz竞选团队这一举动傻x至极，NM民调cruz领先trump，竟然要让kasich去吃？cruz难
道不知道kasich根本不可能吃下NM。左中右三人左右不可能联合得起来的，这样的策略
只会丧失基本盘。cruz一定会跳出来说这是不可能的，消息发错了，否则cruz比kasich
死得还快
states
delegates
ditch |
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发帖数: 5818 | 19 他俩这样做，真是吃相太难看。光明点，一个同意做另一VP，然后助选，选民也接受你
的“诚意”，
但这俩家伙，都觉得自己牛逼，说也不退。
kasich心里也知道被ly‘ted 玩了，cruz 真拿下india, 不会真正放弃NW 和 OR，但因
为cruz math 上也不可能，kasich才会同意的，我估计类似工作cruz team 一直在做，
kasich 就想检漏，大会一乱，在自己的地盘，想做出些文章。
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发帖数: 24123 | 20 驼背真惨
Ted Cruz on John Kasich: 'There is no alliance'
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/28/politics/john-kasich-ted-cruz-all
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz on Thursday downplayed the idea of an alliance between
himself and Ohio Gov. John Kasich to prevent Republican front-runner Donald
Trump from locking up the nomination.
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发帖数: 5818 | 21 原来觉得不可能，但从现在的迹象看，可能性很大：
1，Kasich其实不算 建制派的人，他当VP，很难和这些人勾结，还有这人没有当大统领
的面相和素质，要不也不会这次选举这样，GOP 的大donor 也都看不上他。
2，Kasich 是个技术官僚，对政府运，国会作很熟悉，对将来trump执政有好处
3，对GE，OH 估计没啥问题了
4，可以一定程度平衡 trump 的 image，message
5，我现在觉得可能是决定因素，trump 的 GE 模式是更 appeal 温和的左派，而不是
极右派，kasich对一些民主党vote 很有appeal。
我估计trump的算计是，人口结构已经变化，左大于右是事实，至少55% 对 45%，不
appeal 左的，大选没戏，至于右的，在红州的，右大于左，只要赢一票，就行，
但在 purple 和 浅蓝州，需要有很多民主党voter cross over，要不没戏。
刚听到，小rubio 已被 排除 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 22 Despite acknowledging an effort to get him to launch a third-party bid for
president, Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Monday ruled out the possibility of
running as an independent.
CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked the former Republican presidential candidate
who suspended his campaign nearly two weeks ago if 2012 GOP nominee Mitt
Romney had contacted him regarding an independent bid.
“I don’t want to get into who — I’ve had a phone call with somebody that
wanted me to run, consider running as [a] third-part... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3556 | 23 One day this past May, Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached
out to a senior adviser to Gov. John Kasich of Ohio.
According to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he
not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he
have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?
When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr.
explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic
and fore... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 48111 | 24 mccain, bush, romney, kasich是一条链上的蚂蚱， 代表同一个幕后集团的利益。
mccain, bush还有自己的政治前途， 不方便明面上表态得罪选民。
romney是过气黄花， 虽然很卖力， 但是效果有限。
kasich是台面上政治人物表态的最佳选择。
这里面门道多了， 就算最后建制NAFTA势力要和老川妥协， 之前也得有条卖命bark的
狗， 施加压力，这条狗就是Kasich.
就看他能换来多少骨头了 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 25 President Trump will meet with former campaign rival, Ohio Gov. John Kasich,
on Friday, the White House confirmed.
White House press secretary Sean Spicer said that Kasich has reached out to
Trump on multiple occasions and requested the upcoming meeting.
“Now that he is president … he understands that he’s the president for
every American and he’s talked consistently about having a united country,
” Spicer said at Thursday’s briefing.
“You do that by bringing people together whether or not they ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3678 | 26 Kasich 明确表态不考虑 VP.
只所以 Kasich 坚持，是希望坚持到 Michigan, Ohio, 然后有微弱的可能性翻盘。前
提是 Rubio 惨败。 |
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发帖数: 2415 | 28
Kasich不买账是对的，他们两个都知道自己这次是没戏了，但是kasich赢ohio的可能性比
rubio赢fl的可能性大，他大可不必这么Low， rubio就不一样了，不作弊基本就赢不了
。 |
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发帖数: 5818 | 29 心里和行动都接受，就嘴上不接受，kasich已完全撤出FL。而且，kasich 公开支持
broker convention。 |
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发帖数: 2924 | 33 kasich吓死了， 以前没支持度，没delegates, 所以别人都把他当空气， 现在是cruz
的主要抢票人， cruz辩论时随便搞搞， 就能把他搞死，kasich当然不会做黄继光。 |
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发帖数: 620 | 34 如果最后
Trump 1000
Cruz 800
Kasich 300
你说咋整？
Cruz+Kasich就把Trump给干掉了。 |
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发帖数: 2210 | 35 真的么？Kasich在能分走anti-trump的票，在winner take all更有效。
你有没有搞错，Kasich还希望自己能提名呢，他是跟希拉里h2h现在民调最好的。 |
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发帖数: 1829 | 36 建制派是为了确保trump拿不到多数。最后brokered convention合并cruz和kasich让他
们做running mate，这样他们两人不需要其他人帮助，总delegate就可以超过trump。
这比把退出的人的delegate拿出来给cruz强行压下trump冲击要小很多。不出意外的话
，cruz和kasich后面不会互相攻击的。 |
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发帖数: 10469 | 37 GLENN BECK直接骂KASICH老母，林保也破口大骂，还有LEVIN。按他们想法，Trump+克
露子两人赛好象克露子必赢，至少票数差不多，但开大会重新投票，克露子准赢。
看来KASICH留下来还是不能让克露子整合GOP全部人马团结到他后面 |
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m****g
发帖数: 2215 | 38 Trump might have called Kasich already.
Kasich is running for VP, and he is likely to get what he wants. |
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发帖数: 10469 | 40 Kasich现在肯定不会同意，八字没一撇，TRUMP自己得搞定自己的P先。Kasich位置挺好
，OHIO关键州，票数也有，关键时候学三桂，倒向谁谁赢, |
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发帖数: 3756 | 41 之前他接受Romney 的支持，他也清楚自己目前是一只棋子，但他在犹他又拒绝Romney
的建议，显然另有所图
他的目标肯定也不是VP,至少目前他认为VP已经是保底
Kasich 从政经验确实也算丰富，参议会，州长都混了很多年
我认为他利用棋子的心理运用建制的资源，因为他认定Trump和cruz都不是建制的菜
如果他坚持到底，而且如果大会推一个不在三人之列的人出来，阻力肯定也很大
Kasich可能算好这点
美国的政治人物确实有一定的自主性，除了不敢对金主说不，党派的约束不大，他大不
了回去做州长 |
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发帖数: 2215 | 43 I think we've seen the Cruz ceiling in WI.
Around 14% of Kasich voters will never vote Cruz no matter what.
But it looks that Kasich will stay in this race for a while. |
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发帖数: 4964 | 44 trump也complain说kasich should not be allowed to run, because he is taking
my vote 之类的话，这样的话听起来很幼稚，人家退出不退出，完全不犯法，凭什么要
求人家退出然后确保自己容易胜利。没啥为什么，还有其他类似不相关的逻辑：“朋友
帮你是善事，是道义；朋友不帮你也无可厚非”
你为什么要求人家退出？不就怕拿不够足够票吗？trump要是现在已经有九百一千
delegate的话，剩下的delegate会很容易凑够不需要brokered convention，我保证
trump就不会说这么说话，就会大度点任凭别人怎样不退出。
简单点，很多人就是冲着在convention上把trump选下去，现在convention的概率已经
很高了，人家当然不会轻易退出给你free pass。
今年的共和党注定不会那么团结，首先相当一部分不认同trump，不认同他是真正的共
和党，其次trump当初各种insult别的候选人，Jeb退出后连电话都不接，说明裂痕很深
，很多人对着和trump干，事实就是这样，nevertrump mo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3158 | 45 for Rubio and Jeb, if they kept running, they would have a theoretical
chance of winning, just as Kasich. But their risk of losing their current
political asset would be also very high if they got an ugly outcome.
For Kasich, he could care less now. At least, he would still be the governor
if he wants to after losing the primary. No matter how bad it looks, he is
still very popular in OH. |
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发帖数: 10469 | 46 这也是个力勃肉. 还支持非法移民合法，搞笑的是，和党老忠奴LOGIC９８那舌头上下
舔的可来劲,虚伪的狠
“Can we figure out just how to get along a little bit better and respect
one another?” the Ohio governor and Republican presidential hopeful asked
Saturday.
In a break from the ideological line of many of his Republican
contemporaries, Ohio Gov. John Kasich said he would not have signed anti-
LGBT legislation like that which has caused nationwide backlash in North
Carolina and Mississippi.
Responding to a question from Face the Nation host Joh... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 33224 | 48 希望你说的是对的，之前的poll似乎也显示，Kasich的voter未必支持Cruz。
Kasich，Cruz反正是背水一战了。东北已经放弃了。Indy就看老头子把他们KO了。
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发帖数: 1127 | 49 Cruz没戏的，他早把GOP当权派得罪遍了，现在虽然当权派派出来Jeb为首的endorse好
像收养了这个son of bitch，但实际是把他当阻击床铺的工具。如果真有第二轮，那些
代表不会看不明白党中央的意思，那时候可以高调宣传Kasich对中间选民有号召力，加
上他大会主场造势。实际上Kasich比Cruz这个傻逼拿到提名的可能性大多了。Jeb
endorse之后又明确表示不会出席大会，实际就做好了这种铺垫。 |
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发帖数: 5818 | 50 "This was not an alliance. This was a tentative detente and it was designed
to keep Kasich out of Indiana and it worked," Tyler told NBC's Chuck Todd.
Now, message out, Kasich don't want to show in Indiana, his supporters will
be dispointed, if go vote, will likely split between trump and cruz, if sit-
out, also help cruz a little bit,
no person is better than Cruz to play the "game".
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/27/rick_tyler_cr |
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