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w*******q
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
艺术这个东西难说把,梵高,莫柰之类的画俺看也不觉得比一般涂鸦好在哪里,蒙娜丽
莎大概是俺俗人唯一觉得好的画
l**********g
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
基本功不错啊。创作风格太过时,比他老三代的沙龙画家都比他潮。不过是学生作业所
以可以理
解了。我老小时候比他土多了。学艺术的如果不是天才,都是后来才学会赶潮流。天才
天生妖孽
的,一上来就比别人先进。元首当画家也就普普了,没啥见地。当然了,美术界的标准
都是自由
派主宰的,法西斯不可能入流。
l*w
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
希特勒画的不错,基本功好。当画家未必牛,但做个建筑师还是没问题的
b*******8
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
画画的都是扯淡。盖住作者希特勒,说是梵高画的,一样可以说的通,一样可以卖出上
亿。这东西就跟股票一样,本身好不好不重要,只要相信能忽悠下家以更高价接手。
所以毕加索到了晚年,就开始乱画一气,讽刺那些吹捧的强行解释深意,越吹越离谱。
这个和后人强行解释鲁迅曹雪芹,一个道理。
B****s
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
虽然我也不懂艺术,但我还是知道梵高也是有其风格的。
k**0
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
你这个就是瞎扯了
O****X
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
也有一些道理,加索这些都是商人了,水很深的,不是单纯艺术了
r*****y
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
这幅画画的是真有其事吗?
d*****u
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
第三幅画里那条街我去过
现在有一家中餐馆
e*9
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
re
效果图还是不错的
j****e
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
是啊,他的人物似乎缺少灵气,所以恐怕以油画为业也就是一般水准

just
l**********g
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来自主题: History版 - Hitler油画的水平究竟如何?
他當時還是學生,平心而論學生畫這樣我覺得還可以,而且學生畫風比較老舊也是通常
狀態。個人美術
發展的過程就是美術史的縮影,越有天賦越能跳躍發展。從這種意義上說,元首的天賦
普通,如果生活
在新中國,沒準是很好的革命畫家。元首的藝術觀始終也沒進化,從後來納粹反對現代
主義和包豪斯,
以及他對柏林規劃的思路都能看出來。民族和群體借重個人的創造性而發展出文化,然
而注重民族和群
體的納粹缺反對藝術個人化。
b****r
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来自主题: History版 - Why the West Rules—For Now 到手了
随手一翻还行,当然有没有书评里面那样的高度还得看.
把东西方从人类走出非洲开始对比,在同类书里还算有意思.当然,东方的概念
直接被简化为中国,印度伊拉克等古文明直接无视,真悲催.对中国还算相当友
好,林则徐被类比为DEA,鸦片战争毫无疑问是毒贩战争.
目前来看更像是地理决定论,挑战论和一些社会学的大杂烩.literature review
做得还算很足,早期的地理决定论,文化论,墨西哥白银论等等都被拎出来评价
了一下.不过有意无意地漏掉了博弈论,略感失望.这有可能是本书最大的漏洞.
同时入手的还有其他基本今年经济学人的推荐,都相当有争议.
The Party: The Secret World of China’s Communist Rulers.
Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin
Mao’s Great Famine: The History of China’s Most Devastating Catastrophe
O*******o
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来自主题: History版 - 革命有理
so you understood a little about what Hitler, Marx, Lenion and Chairman Mao
were thinking
o****d
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来自主题: History版 - 毛泽东与希特勒之异同
Mao Zedong and Hitler are great person.

其他英法等国的欺凌。再加上1929年爆发的经济危机,德意志国家面临崩溃。中国就不
用多解释了。
纳艺术学院,两次均没有被录取。后来被迫在街头买画为生。毛泽东经岳父介绍在北大
图书馆打杂,月薪8块,是人家教授的1/25,后来办报纸又破产失业。
狱。毛泽东就不说了,大家都知道。
录》是世界发行量第二大的书籍,希特勒的《我的奋斗》是第三。
义德意志劳工党。毛的工农联盟就不详谈了。
上他们对同时代表工人利益的共产党十分仇恨。纳粹党本质上其实是一个民族性的党派
,支持他上台的是德意志民族对外的民族仇恨。而毛的共产党名义上是工人的,但世界
上当时中国的资本主义很不发达,产业工人数量不足200万,占全国人人口的1/200。结
果不但毛自己不是工人,所有被他鼓动起来造反的也都不是工人,全都是农民。
民国为中华人民共和国。
年趁国会纵火案之机,逮捕敌对党派人士,立法限制国民自由,一党专政形成。后又在
34年的长刀之夜清洗掉纳粹冲锋队里的反对势力,一人专政形成。毛在上台之前就通过
遵义会议,整风运动等手段成为共产党的绝对领导... 阅读全帖
t**********t
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发信人: oshzzd (狮子座的), 信区: History
标 题: Re: 毛泽东与希特勒之异同
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 24 04:14:38 2011, 美东)
Mao Zedong and Hitler are great person.
g*******1
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来自主题: History版 - 第二次大战其实是英国挑起的
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_F%C3%BChrer
——————————————————————————
Deputy Führer was the title for the deputy head of the Nazi Party, which
was held by Rudolf Hess until his flight to the United Kingdom in 1941.
After this event, Adolf Hitler abolished the office and replaced it with the
office of Party Chancellery, which was given to Martin Bormann.
l******x
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来自主题: History版 - 看了《帝国的陷落》

You said "这么多人". How many? from your post, there were less than 20 people and they were all close to Hitler, not common people.
90+ people died in the David Star camp. It is common for cult people to commit suicide when the cult comes to an end.
c**i
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来自主题: History版 - European Theater of World War II
(1) Michael Burleigh, An American Triple Threat; How a trio of generals
worked together, except when they didn't, in taking the fight to Hitler.
Wall Street Journal, Apr 9, 2011.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405
2748703806304576236633362199332.html
(book review on Jonathan W. Jordan, Brothers, Rivals, Victors: Eisenhower,
Patton, Bradley and the partnership that drove the Allied Conquest in Europe
. Caliber, 2011)
Note:
(a) gimp (n): "LIMP "
gimpy (adj... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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来自主题: History版 - 元首为啥不打火鸡国呢?
板鸭的对策其实也是观望观望直到元首大势已去。
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/the-battle-for-gibraltar.html
"Furthermore, NAG provided a remarkably complete picture of German sabotage
operations against Gibraltar. His reports enabled the British Government to
make a detailed protest to the Spanish Government in late January 1944. As
The Times reported (2 February 1944), "the evidence was produced in the
clearest form and speedy remedies were requested."
By this time, Franco's attitude to Nazi Germany had begun to change... 阅读全帖
y****i
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hitler hated communism, because it caused the german's failure in the ww1.
he wanted to cleared communism from russia. in some way, he wanted to help
russia-but soviet union. but he also disspect slav race. he was a purist. a
purist could not succeed in this world.
V*E
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这个书写的很吹阿
你们怎么看?
V*E
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tg的作者明显要接轨阿
吹的还不够
y****i
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The first appearance of the Tiger on the Eastern Front was unsuccessful. The
first Tigers were issued to the 1st platoon of the 502 Battalion of Heavy
Tanks (Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502). On the 29th of August 1942, the four
Tigers arrived at the Mga railway station near Leningrad. Early that day,
the tanks were unloaded and prepared for battle. At 11:00 AM, the Tigers
went into their battle positions. Major Richard Merker commanded the platoon
, which included four Tigers, six PzKpfw III Ausf.... 阅读全帖
y****i
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The first appearance of the Tiger on the Eastern Front was unsuccessful. The
first Tigers were issued to the 1st platoon of the 502 Battalion of Heavy
Tanks (Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502). On the 29th of August 1942, the four
Tigers arrived at the Mga railway station near Leningrad. Early that day,
the tanks were unloaded and prepared for battle. At 11:00 AM, the Tigers
went into their battle positions. Major Richard Merker commanded the platoon
, which included four Tigers, six PzKpfw III Ausf.... 阅读全帖
y****i
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The first appearance of the Tiger on the Eastern Front was unsuccessful. The
first Tigers were issued to the 1st platoon of the 502 Battalion of Heavy
Tanks (Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502). On the 29th of August 1942, the four
Tigers arrived at the Mga railway station near Leningrad. Early that day,
the tanks were unloaded and prepared for battle. At 11:00 AM, the Tigers
went into their battle positions. Major Richard Merker commanded the platoon
, which included four Tigers, six PzKpfw III Ausf.... 阅读全帖
a**i
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FT, remember how Hitler get into prison?
a*****7
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和80年前的德国比, 也太不好意思吧。
那时的中国 还可以一夫多妻。
发信人: afei (afei), 信区: History
标 题: Re: 64暴露出解放军水平不是一般的差 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 7 15:15:51 2011, 美东)
FT, remember how Hitler get into prison?
w**j
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来自主题: History版 - 这又不是科学幻想版
德国和苏联结盟,联合对付英国美国????
德意日组织的联盟叫什么啊
英国法国开始对Hitler好的狠,非常配合.
b****r
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stoppingtime (李将军又打鸡血了) 于 (Thu Sep 15 18:46:25 2011, 美东) 提到:
真是惊心动魄啊。
德国人几乎快被打得崩溃了,结果突然形势急转直下,苏联人被反合围了。包围圈里的
红军高呼着乌拉发起冲锋然后整片整片被打倒。。。
有空了写个连载,算是读书笔记罢。
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vespers (西瓜很好吃) 于 (Thu Sep 15 18:49:04 2011, 美东) 提到:
俄国人还是nb,从沙皇时期就开始屡屡发生这种集团冲锋整片整片被打倒的事情,好像
对军队士气都没什么影响。

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stoppingtime (李将军又打鸡血了) 于 (Thu Sep 15 20:06:11 2011, 美东) 提到:
德国人认为他们是喝了伏特加,就好像美军认为志愿军是磕了药一样。
不过估计在当时的包围圈里不太容... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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来自主题: History版 - 历史教科书务须求真求实
多少遍了?隆美尔家底本来就薄,稍微有点抵抗受点损失就会耗尽力量。这个特点也决
定了他根本不会死打硬拼和英国人拼消耗。
bevin alexander how hitler could have won ww2
142页
Rommel recognized the merciless equation as well as Auchinleck and pushed
his men and vehicles forward in hopes of getting pas EL Alamein before the
British could organize a defense. But now he had only 40 tanks and 2500
motorized German infantary, while his 6000 remaining Italian infantary were
much less mobile and slower coming forward.
后面还提到隆美尔俘虏了6000印度兵---a number larger than Rommel'... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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来自主题: History版 - 历史教科书务须求真求实
你自己问贝文亚利山大去:
bevin alexander how hitler could have won ww2
142页
Rommel recognized the merciless equation as well as Auchinleck and pushed
his men and vehicles forward in hopes of getting pas EL Alamein before the
British could organize a defense. But now he had only 40 tanks and 2500
motorized German infantary, while his 6000 remaining Italian infantary were
much less mobile and slower coming forward.
后面还提到隆美尔俘虏了6000印度兵---a number larger than Rommel's entire
striking force。
a***y
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不能这么说,当今白人,比如美國白人,会说比会做重要,这个是有深刻原因的,你说的诡
辩,其实就是aristotle说的修辞rhetoric. 他在谈到rhetoric的时候,就明确地说了,人
们之间日常的交流,不仅仅是谈话这么简单,还在于人和人之间的relationship的维持,
所以说话不仅仅是问和答问题,更应该是为了发展互相的长远关系的基础上的交流.任何
一个伟人的针对某个issue的演讲,不仅仅要看是什么历史背景下产生的,更要看他演讲
的听众是谁,他们的需求,背景,期望是什么.
比如hitler的演讲为什么能鼓动人民群众,就是因为他深知aristotle的修辞原理,西方
一直都是这么教育学生的.
其实中国古代也有这方面的专家,但是因为近代的原因,学生学习的语文课已经没有教这
方面的东西了.

易。
公理-定理的演绎体系的实践者,还提出了微积分的基本思想。阿基米德就是希腊的牛
顿,这
d**********2
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请帮忙转MILITARY版。那里有许多SB上贴伪造的翻译,比如这个:
"笑掉大牙,大家来看下宋的国会演讲词by dafemrenla (dafemrenla):
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/36667199.html
为了忠于历史,我特意上传英文原版影音和英文稿。请注意这个稿子是宋亲自准备的,
是历史上第二个女性有机会在美国国会演讲,也是第一个中国人这样做。这个讲演有重
要的史学意义. 请别忘了,她是当时代表整个中国来作这个讲演的。在抗战的早期,她多次去前线劳军,冒生命危险,数次受伤。她和努力和民国政府给当代的PRC留下了如:联合国发起国,联合国安理会常任理事国,也培养许多世界一流的科学家和艺术家,包括两弹元勋等。这些历史贡献是超越意识形态的。
片断:
录音全版:
2-1:
2-2:
讲演原文(全)
Addresses to the House of Representatives and to the Senate, February 18,
1943.
by Soong May-ling
Mr. Speaker and Memb... 阅读全帖
s******8
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动

Barrier troops in the Red Army
In the Red Army of the Soviet Union, the concept of barrier troops first arose in August 1918 with the formation of the (zagraditelnye otriady), translated as "blocking troops" or "anti-retreat detachments" (Russian: заградотряды, заградительные отряды, отряды заграждения).[1] The barrier troops were composed of personnel drawn from Cheka punitive detachments or from regular Red Army infantry regiments.
The first use of the barrier troops by the Red Army occurred ... 阅读全帖
g******t
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动

军史砖家舍得伸脸,咱就舍得打,先给出出处和作者简介
Inside the Soviet Army [Hardcover]
Viktor Suvorov (Author)
Hardcover: 296 pages
Publisher: Hamilton; 1 edition (1982)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0241108896
Born April 20, 1947 (age 64)
Primorsky Krai, USSR
Notable work(s) Aquarium, Icebreaker
Suvorov began his service in the Soviet Army's 41st Guards Tank Division,[1]
and worked in Soviet military intelligence (GRU) before defecting to the
United Kingdom in 1978, where he worked as an intelligence analyst and
l... 阅读全帖
g******t
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动

这个也不知道是哪个反俄罗斯分子写的,要不要把作者也人肉一下?
http://www.vectorsite.net/twsnow_08.html
“However, as far as Stalin was concerned, if Hitler wanted Stalingrad he
was going to pay for it. The Red Army was not going to fight a delaying
action at the city -- it was going to hold it or die trying. If anyone in
the ranks had any different ideas, he was likely to die anyway. In late July
, Stalin had signed "Secret Order 227", nicknamed "Not One Step Backwards",
making unauthorized retreats punishable by death.
This ... 阅读全帖
r*****y
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动
这个东线44-45年苏军是德军10倍以上,我记得贝文亚历山大的how hitler could have
won ww2里也有提及。当然不是双方总兵力,而是某个突出部的兵力对比。
r*****y
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动
早都已经贴过了。贝文亚历山大的how hitler could have won ww2.
西顿的苏德战争:
陆军总部格伦的东线外军处曾预报苏军的攻势迫在眉睫,它估计集结在东普鲁士和维
斯拉河对面的苏军实力有二百二十五个步兵师和二十二个以上的坦克军。根据这些数字
古德里安计算出苏方占有的优势是:步兵十一比一,坦克七比一,火炮二十比一。圣诞
节前夕参谋总长带了盖伦的情报判断赶往希特勒在黑森齐根贝格的西线指挥所。可是这
也无济于事。被数字和师团总数迷惑的希特勒,早已在组建新的部队而不愿补充现有的
部队。步兵师减少到只有六个营,有些新成立的人民步兵师只有两个旅,每个旅只有两
个营,满员时也只不过有六千名官兵。东线的许多师仍保留师的番号,专门蒙蔽苏军。
德军在东线作战的命令成了一个大骗局,命令中把团称作师,营称作旅,旅称作军。其
后不久,机动反坦克歼击部队实际上只是装备了反坦克手榴弹的自行车连。希特勒深信
,敌方也同样正在进行欺骗。在凯特尔、约德尔、古德里安和布格道夫参加的一次会议
上,发生了激烈的争吵。会议结束时,希特勒否定了盖伦的情报判断。
p********a
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来自主题: History版 - 当年元首为毛要去打非洲?
fundamentally
1. clearing british in NA, then Jerry and Italy can advance to iraq,
oil, lots of oil,
2. Mediterranean Sea is controlled
3. iran is home of Jerry, so cool to get; from iran, attack USSR, very close
to USSR oil field (kiev?)
4. Jap is in indian ocean, they can connect each other; then british will be
down at once, no hope for british at all in that case (losing india, middle
east, north africa, no resources income at all)
but hitler didn't really realise the 4th point above, i susp... 阅读全帖
p********a
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not true
by the mid of 1941, Jerry was in Africa, but not in Russia yet.
it was Hitler's wrong decision, but not due to war in 俄国
j*******7
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有人点醒了我,仔细一看,还真。。。
The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id12.html
You can read the whole book at:
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the
A summary at:
http://gaynazis.com/
The readers reviews on amazon are worthy of reading, and looks like they
are so divided.
s**********e
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Hitler has no chance to speak...
To be frank, Manstein sometimes lied...
a*****c
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: agostic (π-packing), 信区: Military
标 题: (中英文)原子弹下无冤魂:B29飞行员查尔斯•斯韦尼将军1995国会演讲
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 15 20:13:42 2012, 美东)
只有记忆才能带来真正的原谅,而遗忘就可能冒重复历史的危险。
One can only forgive by remembering. And to forget, is to risk repeating
history.
学英文是为了更好地了解历史。文章很长,有兴趣学英语同时了解历史的同学,希望耐
心地看完(也可以拷贝下来仔细研读)。不仅仅是学英语,更重要的是学如何写作,如
何摆事实,讲道理,反驳质疑。可以学的东西(中英文)原子弹下无冤魂:B29飞行员查
尔斯•斯韦尼将军1995国会演讲很多,就看你是否能够用心去领悟。这是一篇难
得的informative/historical/linguastic article. Enjoy and welcome to ... 阅读全帖
s**********e
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对不起,190万的确很难直观判断正误。而800万那个基本上就跟8亿一样容易判断。
你将军认为德军100万比德军190万靠谱得多。
很遗憾,让你失望了。今天找到机会查了书。
David Glantz的 Operation Barbarossa: Hitler's Invasion of Russia 1941 第136
页明确记载,德军用于台风行动的兵力是1,929,406人(也就大致是英文wiki上面的数
字),而苏军兵力是125万人。注解里,德军兵力数量来自中央集团军群战斗日志。
Reinhardt的Moscow: The Turning Point里面也使用了这个数字。
当然,Glantz和中央集团军群的战斗日志,比起您李将军来,都属于不靠谱的。
s**********e
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来自主题: History版 - 维亚兹马会战里德军兵力数字
David Glantz的 Operation Barbarossa: Hitler's Invasion of Russia 1941 第136
页明确记载,德军用于台风行动的兵力是1,929,406人(也就大致是英文wiki上面的数
字),而苏军兵力是125万人。注解里,德军兵力数量来自中央集团军群战斗日志。
Reinhardt的Moscow: The Turning Point里面也使用了这个数字。
d*****u
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今天看新闻说泰国一所大学也犯了政治错误
才想起来泰国在二战的时候是轴心国
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/thai-university-hitler
l******2
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来自主题: History版 - 圆首还真是老实人啊
英国人、德国人、荷兰人其实都是属于germen
中文称日耳曼人
hitler是奥地利人
其实奥地利那个地方犹太人最多最集中
r*d
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_notable_people
Ramesses III E1b1a
Albert Einstein E1b1b1b2* E-Z830
Adolf Hitler E1b1b1 (E-M35)
Lyndon B. Johnson E1b1b1 (E-M35).
Napoleon E1b1b1c1* (E-M34*)
Nelson Mandela E1b1a
d**********0
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faint..
T34 不是毛子的? 具体那里读到的, 俺忘了。 俺又不是专们搞这一行的, 记不
清了。
现在查查wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa
In some key weapons-systems, however, the Soviets had a considerable
numerical advantage. In tanks, for example, the Red Army dominated
overwhelmingly in numbers. They possessed 23,106,[80] of which about 12,782
were in the five Western Military Districts (three of which directly faced
the German invasion front). Adolf Hitler later said "If I had known about
the Russian tank's strengt... 阅读全帖
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