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A*********R
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you don't need to know who did it. Just report it first...you are not
responsible for catching the wrong doer. I hope the bastard who did it will
drop dead soon.
g*x
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答案:
DOER: 1D/1C/2D/2C
THINKER: 1A/1B/2A/2B
TALKER: 3C/3D/4C/4D
GUARDIAN: 3A/3B/4A/4B
P.S. --
大家先把自己的泰普测出来, 俺抽空再把各类型的基本特征, 最佳沟通方式, 以及各类型间的最佳搭档关系输入进来。
先开个小灶, 俺自己是 TALKER, 跟 GUARDIAN 类人不论做事还是生活都是最佳搭档。 有各种好的搭档组合, 不过授课老师专门就提到了 男TALKER/女GUARDIAN, 说这个是婚姻黄金组合。 模拟谈判时我们小组就有一位 GUARDIAN 女, 她说她老公就是 TALKER , 他们几乎从来不吵架, 配合特别默契。 谈判准备和实施过程中, 我和她配合也挺默契的, 一种自然吸引力。 她长相一般, 但是那股气质让俺很舒服,很放松,呵呵!
x******k
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Doer
说说THINKER都有啥特点?
g*x
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DOER.
THINKER.
:考虑问题全面周到细致
:容易犹豫不决
:THINKER 往往是最难达成协议的谈判对象
TALKER.
:谈判中最好的 ICE BREAKER, 达成谈判最多的类型
GUARDIAN.
:很好的听众和追随者
:如果是女性, 一般气质很优雅, 给她足够的安全感, 她就会是TALKER最理想的合
作伙伴
最佳搭配:
最烂搭配:
l***i
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不得不说,测试和搭配都准。我是thinker, doer确实对我有吸引力 。
r******e
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you mei you ren shi doer+thinker.
shuang chong ren ge...
n******r
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - 今天心情不佳,抒发下感受。
古典妹妹现在需要doer, not listener ba...
A*****t
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - 今天心情不佳,抒发下感受。
是吗? 古典过来确认一下:
A. 老强 (doer)
B. 李斯特(listener)
选哪个?
g*x
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - 我有个主意
建议大家积极踊跃参与验证性格二元分析法 --- 美国企业界认同的 Professional
Inter-Personal Skill, 然后就以 DOER/TALKER/GUARDIAN/THINKER 来做一参考标志。
俺可以负责任地告诉大家, 俺从接触到使用这个工具, 从学习的课堂到参与管理的美国大企专业技术部门,历人无数, 除少数性格本身就比较模糊的人群外, 发现大部分情况下这个简单工具都很精准 --- 当然, 实践中你不能要求工作对象做50道心理测试题, 有根据嘴型判断基本类型的标准方法, 有专门设计的问题和策略以便在沟通的过程中判断对方的性格类型。
征婚比普通的商务谈判对一个人的生活意义重大得多, 更应该科学对待:
第一步, 找准自己的泰普;
第二步, 弄清适合自己不适合自己的泰普;
第三步, 基本物理参数过关后, 交往过程的第一阶段的任务就是弄清对方的性格类型。
如果大家开门见山把自己的类型标志出来, 效率肯定提高不少。
g*x
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - <<鹊桥直配试验>> 开始了!
性格二元分析法详情见《择友参考工具》帖。
DOER/TALKER/THINKER/GUARDIAN
m****8
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - <<鹊桥直配试验>> 开始了!
60% Talker + 40% DOER
g*x
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - <<鹊桥直配试验>> 开始了!
这个不是算命。 就是密集测试了决定人际关系的两个最重要的基本性格特征, 然后根据统计数据给出的结论。
强势和较真是 DOER 的基本特征, 比较弱势, 低调, 但是喜欢深思熟虑的 THINKER 跟你搭档应该比较成功, 你们的性格会相得益彰。
v*****0
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - <<鹊桥直配试验>> 开始了!
觉得直配测试误差很大呀----第一次匆忙做结果是 THINKER, 过了两天再细细做又成 GUARDIAN 了。。。 应该何解?---- 双重性格?
不过两次的A, B 都是不分上下的, 值得肯定的是跟talker 和 doer 是不沾边的!
(帮忙顶了,应该发包子哈。。。)
e****f
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - <<鹊桥直配试验>> 开始了!
哈哈,两栖mm。估计你和DOER和TALKER都能配合得很好。
v*****0
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - <<鹊桥直配试验>> 开始了!
Doer 和 Talker 都是什么特点? 一个埋头苦干,一个光说不干?
哪里有解释吗?
R****a
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there is no way such a post could convince me.
You need a really strong thinker if you wanna prove your theory for me as a
"Doer"
g*x
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elseif, 俺对不住你!
你站内一下你的简单物理参数, 如果符合那位 TALKER 妹妹的要求, 你们直接沟通。
彪悍的 DOER 女咱们惹不起。
本贴活动到此结束。
m******a
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引导?这个到底有多大作用,到底是不是成功最不可或缺的。到底有没有那么多道理只有女人懂,男人不懂。大家都是一样
的教育体系出来的啊。我听说的例子中女人多是跟周围人攀比来攀比去,给男人peer pressure,有的男人能当做动力,有
的不能的就变成家庭悲剧。归根结底还是男人自己愿意干。
这个世界上有太多道理大家都知道,真正去做的却少之又少。这就是为什么世界value doer不是speaker。
比如我们都知道早睡早起对身体好,都知道严于律己严格执行计划才能成功,都知道有原则能受到尊重。。。太多了
谈理想吹牛逼的人有多少,真正坚持做的有多少?
所以老公成功的女人们,与其说你们男人幸运,不如说你们幸运,找到了一个踏实肯干的男人当老公
s**i
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what you are saying is to let go and forget.
It's not about forgiveness.
Forgiveness is a lot harder than you think.
To err is human, to forgive, divine.
When the wound is still open and bleeding, when repressed anger has not
dissipated, there is no true forgiveness.
Time can heal, wounds heal and anger fades.
What helps the most is the wrong doer's sincere repentance and apology.That
would help a lot for the victim to heal and move on.
This is also an important thing for a healthy relationship.... 阅读全帖
i*****d
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The following passage appears in the Greek version of Antiquities of the
Jews 18.63-64, in the translation of William Whiston:
3.3 Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men
as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the
Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the
suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cr
E*****m
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為了本主題完整, 把 ironmud 的證據貼在這裡。
发信人: ironmud (iron1), 信区: Belief
标 题: Re: 【原創】破解基督教(一) 破解世界末日 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 29 17:47:06 2009, 美东)

The following passage appears in the Greek version of Antiquities of the
Jews 18.63-64, in the translation of William Whiston:
3.3 Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men
as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the
Jews and m
E*****m
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来自主题: Belief版 - 古蘭經裡評論耶穌及基督徒
5:70 We made a covenant of old with the Children of Israel and We sent unto
them messengers. As often as a messenger came unto them with that which
their souls desired not (they became rebellious). Some (of them) they denied
and some they slew.
5:71 They thought no harm would come of it, so they were wilfully blind and
deaf. And afterward Allah turned (in mercy) toward them. Now (even after
that) are many of them wilfully blind and deaf. Allah is Seer of what they
do.
5:72 They surely disbelieve... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: Literature版 - Robert Morris
John Steele Gordon, This Rebel Came Armed With a Balance Sheet. Wall Street
Journal, Nov. 27, 2010.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703514904575602370668905224.html
(book review on Charles Rappleye, Robert Morris: Financier of American
Revolution. Simon & Schuster, 2010
http://books.simonandschuster.com/Robert-Morris/Charles-Rappleye/9781416570912
)
Quote:
"in the case of the Revolution, Great Britain—the richest country in Europe
and the possessor of the most advanced financial sy... 阅读全帖
s**********8
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来自主题: LoveNLust版 - War Horse
but a real doer
C*******g
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来自主题: LoveNLust版 - War Horse
do 啥?

but a real doer
m*******o
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来自主题: LoveNLust版 - War Horse
I'm not a true seer of your being a real doer
p**********r
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来自主题: PsychoAnalysis版 - 赏识教育——关于中国父母教育子女的
看了之后,我觉得我还是比较幸运的。我父母只打过我两次,一次是我调皮害我爸摔得
厉害,另一次是闯了大祸。呵呵。而且,他们也还算经常表扬我的。
那么为什么我有一些不安全感呢?主要是部分老师和部分过于早熟的心地不够善良的同
学的。当然,这些同学,也是他们父母和老师教育不好的结果。
而我父母主要的问题,在于面对这个不是时时善良地社会的时候,态度很消极,并且影
响到了我,让我觉得我们这种善良的单纯的老实的人就是不能好好生存的。所以,他们
的态度,就不是一个doer的态度。当然,我认为,这样还是比让我也去学得阴险要好。
L******N
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 雅各书查经第十三天 4:11-17
1. 11节的彼此批评是什么意思?雅各在这里主要的负担是什么?
KJV:4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of
his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth
the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a
judge.
这里“批评”的意思是恶意的指摘,毁谤。
2. 为什么说批评,论断弟兄的就是批评,论断律法?而且是不遵行律法?
律法是让我们爱神和爱人如己。论断毁谤弟兄,爱人的心在哪里呢?
3. 13-16节的中心意思是什么呢?
我们常常为什么而活?——为自己的目标(v13)
我们生活的主宰是谁?——是神。(v14)
我们生活的目的应该是谁?——是神。(v15)
不按自己的人生目的去生活——不中标杆——罪(v16)
4. 为什么17节说知善不行也是罪?
知道行善,就是知道神的心意;知道
E*****m
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶稣的历史存在性
你看得太偏頗了, 沒看到比較好的理由, 或者沒看懂。
wiki 有這條目 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
那段偽造的是這樣寫的
"Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call
him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as
receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews,
and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the
suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross,
those that loved him at the fir
G******e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Josephus Flavius and The Christ
Josephus
John E. Remsberg, The Christ
Late in the first century Josephus wrote his celebrated work, “The
Antiquities of the Jews,” giving a history of his race from the earliest
ages down to his own time. Modern versions of this work contain the
following passage:
“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call
him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works; a teacher of such men as
receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews,
and many o... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 论断
经文:
太 7:1 “你们不要论断人,免得你们被论断。 太 7:2 因为你们怎样论断人,也必怎
样被论断;你们用什么量器量给人,也必用什么量器量给你们。 路 6:37 “你们不要
论断人,就不被论断;你们不要定人的罪,就不被定罪;你们要饶恕人,就必蒙饶恕(
“饶恕”原文作“释放”); 罗 2:1 你这论断人的,无论你是谁,也无可推诿。你在
什么事上论断人,就在什么事上定自己的罪;因你这论断人的,自己所行却和别人一样
。 罗 2:3 你这人哪!你论断行这样事的人,自己所行的却和别人一样,你以为能逃脱
神的审判吗? 罗 14:3 吃的人不可轻看不吃的人;不吃的人不可论断吃的人;因为
神已经收纳他了。 罗 14:4 你是谁,竟论断别人的仆人呢?他或站住,或跌倒,自
有他的主人在;而且他也必要站住,因为主能使他站住。 罗 14:10 你这个人,为什么
论断弟兄呢?又为什么轻看弟兄呢?因我们都要站在 神的台前。 罗 14:13 所以我们
不可再彼此论断,宁可定意,谁也不给弟兄放下绊脚跌人之物。 林前 4:3 我被你们论
断,或被别人论断,我都以为极小的事,连我自己也不论断自己。 林前 4:5 所... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 古蘭經裡評論耶穌及基督徒 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Eloihim (真神), 信区: Belief
标 题: 古蘭經裡評論耶穌及基督徒
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 2 14:04:36 2011, 美东)
5:70 We made a covenant of old with the Children of Israel and We sent unto
them messengers. As often as a messenger came unto them with that which
their souls desired not (they became rebellious). Some (of them) they denied
and some they slew.
5:71 They thought no harm would come of it, so they were wilfully blind and
deaf. And afterward Allah turned (in mercy) toward them. Now ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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chapter 9.5 I Thank God!
Romans 6 deals with “the body of sin”, Romans 7 with “the body of this
death” (6:6; 7:24). In chapter 6 the whole question before us is sin; in
chapter 7 the whole question before us is death. What is the difference
between the body of sin and the body of death? In regard to sin (that is, to
whatever displeases God) I have a body of sin—a body, that is to say,
which is actively engaged in sin. But in regard to the Law of God (that is,
to that which expresses the will of ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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chapter 9.5 I Thank God!
Romans 6 deals with “the body of sin”, Romans 7 with “the body of this
death” (6:6; 7:24). In chapter 6 the whole question before us is sin; in
chapter 7 the whole question before us is death. What is the difference
between the body of sin and the body of death? In regard to sin (that is, to
whatever displeases God) I have a body of sin—a body, that is to say,
which is actively engaged in sin. But in regard to the Law of God (that is,
to that which expresses the will of ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【福音派版本】罗马书1:22-32

1:29装满了各样不义,邪恶,贪婪,恶毒(或作阴毒)。满心是嫉妒,凶杀,争竞,诡
诈,毒恨。
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity
; whisperers,
"
Understand by unrighteousness, the violation of justice among men, by not
rendering to each his due. I have rendered πονηρίαν, according
to the opinion of Ammonium, wickedness; for he teaches us that πονηρο
ν, the wicked, is δραστίκον κακου, the doer of evil. The
word (nequitia) the... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【基要派版本】罗马书2:1-16

13. (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of
the law shall be justified.
"13. For the hearers of the law, etc. This anticipates an objection which
the Jews might have adduced. As they had heard that the law was the rule of
righteousness, (Deuteronomy 4:1,) they gloried in the mere knowledge of it:
to obviate this mistake, he declares that the hearing of the law or any
knowledge of it is of no such consequence, that any one should on that
account lay claim to righteo... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Mark Twain:Letters from the earth
Letters from the Earth
When the Creator had finished thinking, He said, "I have thought. Behold!"
He lifted His hand, and from it burst a fountain-spray of fire, a million
stupendous suns, which clove the blackness and soared, away and away and
away, diminishing in magnitude and intensity as they pierced the far
frontiers of Space, until at last they were but as diamond nailheads
sparkling under the domed vast roof of the universe.
At the end of an hour the Grand Council was dismissed.
They left... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 右脸左脸

好问题。
马 太 福 音
5:38 你 们 听 见 有 话 说 , 以 眼 还 眼 , 以 牙 还 牙 。
5:39 只 是 我 告 诉 你 们 , 不 要 与 恶 人 作 对 。 有 人 打 你 的 右 脸
, 连 左 脸 也 转 过 来 由 他 打 。
“有 人 打 你 的 右 脸 , 连 左 脸 也 转 过 来 由 他 打 “ 是针对“ 以 眼 还
眼 , 以 牙 还 牙”说的。重点是不要报仇 (“不 要 与 恶 人 作 对”)。
JFB Commentary on ver 39
"Our Lord's own meek, yet dignified bearing, when smitten rudely on the
cheek (Joh 18:22, 23), and not literally presenting the other, is the best
comment on these words. It is the preparedness, after one indignity, not to
invite but to submit m... 阅读全帖
l*****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 历史上的弥赛亚名单
怪就怪在Flavius Josephus费了不少笔墨描写Simon of Peraea,Athronges, Menahem
ben Judah, Vespasian,而和作家时间更靠近的耶稣就没啥记录啊,有的那段还是公认
的伪造品
Simon of Peraea
"There was also Simon, who had been a slave of king Herod, but in other
respects a comely person, of a tall and robust body; he was one that was
much superior to others of his order, and had had great things committed to
his care. This man was elevated at the disorderly state of things, and was
so bold as to put a diadem on his head, while a certain number of the p... 阅读全帖
A**J
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教鼓吹的還是盲信
Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him
a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as
receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews
and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the
suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross,
those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to
them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets ha... 阅读全帖
m****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译
wishing any reply for this is English so that I can forward to my dear
sister.
A sister's answer
"I did a little research on believing on Jesus... First, not all the ones
Jesus cured believed in him. What about the 3 resurrections? They could
hardly ask him to help them, expressing faith in him -they were dead! (
especially the widow's only son) The man who wanted his followers to expel
the demons from his son, admitted he needed more faith. Indeed, it was the
apostles' "little faith" that p... 阅读全帖
m****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译
wishing any reply for this is English so that I can forward to my dear
sister.
A sister's answer
"I did a little research on believing on Jesus... First, not all the ones
Jesus cured believed in him. What about the 3 resurrections? They could
hardly ask him to help them, expressing faith in him -they were dead! (
especially the widow's only son) The man who wanted his followers to expel
the demons from his son, admitted he needed more faith. Indeed, it was the
apostles' "little faith" that p... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 从gay渣到虔诚的基督徒

沒錯!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ
"Ted Haggard is Completely Heterosexual"
by: Roy Zimmerman
Lyrics:
Ted Haggard is completely Heterosexual
Ted Haggard is completely Heterosexual
Ted Haggard is completely Heterosexual
Glory how-he-blew-ya.
Once there was a preacher by the name of Ted Haggard
Who stumbled from the path
Or you might even say staggered
He was one in a million
Or more aptly one-in-ten
Some folks say he put the “men” in “Amen”
He preached the gospel message
Of intoleran... 阅读全帖
q********t
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对英语或教义不太熟悉,所以节选了英文译本中的一些内容,想问问主要意思是什么。
这些内容在中文译本中并未出现,所以不能对照来了解。
So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve
smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them,
then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (
is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or
ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its
burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jih... 阅读全帖
J******s
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I found this is better to understand than Chinese version. :-)
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Four Kinds of Kamma (Kamma-catukka)
Buddha Abhidhamma by Dr. Mehm Tin Mon
Though we cannot know the individual kammas in person, we can classify the
kammas into several types as described by Buddha, and predict when, where
and how each type will bear its result.
Introduction
Kamma, Sanskrit karma, literally means volitional action or deed. As a rule
good actions bear good results and bad actions bear bad results. Now ac... 阅读全帖
J******s
发帖数: 7538
46
I found this is better to understand than Chinese version. :-)
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Four Kinds of Kamma (Kamma-catukka)
Buddha Abhidhamma by Dr. Mehm Tin Mon
Though we cannot know the individual kammas in person, we can classify the
kammas into several types as described by Buddha, and predict when, where
and how each type will bear its result.
Introduction
Kamma, Sanskrit karma, literally means volitional action or deed. As a rule
good actions bear good results and bad actions bear bad results. Now ac... 阅读全帖
Y**u
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whosewho (whosewho) 于 (Sat Jan 21 22:26:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
俺前几天读某位师兄推荐的《禅修之旅》,感觉很好。不过有一个问题一直不明,就是
南传关于‘业’的解释。不知哪位师兄可以一解俺的疑惑?
多谢!
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SeeU (See you) 于 (Sun Jan 22 21:02:05 2012, 美东) 提到:
摘录自南传的《阿毗达摩概要精解》∶
善心与不善心两者是「业」(kamma)。缘于业成熟而生起的心是果报心。这类心组成有别于前两种的第三种心;它包括善业与不善业的果报(vipàka)。应明白在此所指的业与果报两者皆是纯粹属于精神方面的。业是与善心或不善心相应的「思」;其果报是其他体验成熟之业的
当「思」开始对目标作业时,它也指挥其他相应法执行各自的任务。「思」是造业的最主要因素,因为所采取的行动之善恶即决定于思。
不善果报心∶第一组无因心包含了七种不... 阅读全帖
g*d
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我们都晓得
you are a doer
i******c
发帖数: 9350
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来自主题: Beijing版 - 得钻研业务了
得会说. thinker > doer
H**7
发帖数: 8624
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来自主题: HuNan版 - 心理测试题
Check out the attachment to learn more about DOER ...
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