l***n 发帖数: 812 | 1 做index,涨跌不会太大,expense不会太高,先把握一下大盘的走势吧。我就是从
index etf开始的,而且有那么多index,搞明白都是怎么会是啊,为什么选SP500而不
是Russell 2000,或者Wilshire 5000,又或者是MSCI EAFE,为啥有的时候converge,
有的时候diverge,原因是啥?搞明白了这些,对你将来看大盘有百利而无一害。 |
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g********4 发帖数: 4959 | 2 量大,价跌。MACD升,还divergence,咋做出来的? |
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g********4 发帖数: 4959 | 3 below 3,very likely. I just wonder why MACD is UP and divergent against the
price movement. |
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g*****u 发帖数: 14294 | 4 For pair trade, did you mostly bet on divergence or convergence or both?
which one of the bets was easier to make money? |
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B****t 发帖数: 3129 | 6 板块轮动?明天带头大哥领着Tech大爆菊?
嗨,俺这是屁股指挥脑袋 |
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c****l 发帖数: 1693 | 7 完了,最终的崩盘信号出来了。你个锤子,为什么要谈股市!!! |
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g*****u 发帖数: 14294 | 8 万少指示?!
咋个玩儿?
嘛个味儿?
嘛勒个啥? |
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w********1 发帖数: 3492 | 10 not that bad . sp waiting for tech? |
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g****g 发帖数: 310 | 12 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: godegg (godegg), 信区: Military
标 题: Goldman Sachs告诉员工不得离开日本->看来东京还是安全的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 3 08:34:42 2011, 美东)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Goldman-Sachs-Employees-Told-cnbc
At least four Goldman Sachs executives flew into Japan last week to speak
with nervous ex-pat employees about radiation fears, according to a person
familiar with the situation. They also conveyed another message: don't leave
Japan and don't leave Tokyo.
Employees at the investment bank's... 阅读全帖 |
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f****y 发帖数: 346 | 13 looks similar before. Why diverge today? anyone knows? |
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j*****h 发帖数: 3292 | 14 问几个问题吧
CPI 和PPI 的区别是什么?为什么现在会有divergence?
Index basket 如何确定的? 谁统计CPI? 感觉到了low CPI了吗?
就是下家。 |
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w*******o 发帖数: 6125 | 15 帮主,看失业率的4周移动平均线算TA还是FA?
$SPX/$USD的Convergence/Divergence算TA还是FA?
用。 |
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x******g 发帖数: 33885 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 RisingChina 讨论区 】
发信人: xinchong (xc), 信区: RisingChina
标 题: 中国要买黄金,而不是美国债
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 30 08:34:11 2011, 美东)
大家看看这个图就清楚了:
As the chart indicates, from the late 1940s through the early 1970s, the price of oil as measured in US dollars or grams of gold moved in lockstep. But then starting in 1972 — shortly after Nixon closed the gold window — the two lines started diverging, with the gulf widening dramatically in recent years. Although the chart unfortunately ends in December ... 阅读全帖 |
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x******g 发帖数: 33885 | 17 中国现在买黄金的策略应该是:跟风不断地少量买入;逢低回落批量吸入;总体不断积
累。
price of oil as measured in US dollars or grams of gold moved in lockstep.
But then starting in 1972 — shortly after Nixon closed the gold window —
the two lines started diverging, with the gulf widening dramatically in
recent years. Although the chart unfortunately ends in December 2007, the
pattern since then is largely the same: Oil shot up more and crashed harder
in 2008, but both oil and gold have risen tremendously: since the advent of
Bernanke's... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****i 发帖数: 8922 | 18 买黄金不如买石油。
price of oil as measured in US dollars or grams of gold moved in lockstep.
But then starting in 1972 — shortly after Nixon closed the gold window —
the two lines started diverging, with the gulf widening dramatically in
recent years. Although the chart unfortunately ends in December 2007, the
pattern since then is largely the same: Oil shot up more and crashed harder
in 2008, but both oil and gold have risen tremendously: since the advent of
Bernanke's extraordinary programs to "prov... 阅读全帖 |
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g********5 发帖数: 10335 | 19 Nice performance :)
Bullish divergence appears again,it will spike like as end of Mar soon
haha |
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b*******e 发帖数: 24532 | 20 I saw negative divergence in sp, however, not sure whether down starts or
not. But rule of thump, try to avoid the correction in May and June, a
typical tough time for mkt. Surviving by standing side line ,hiahia |
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u****d 发帖数: 23938 | 21 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
liliwater (lyrist) 于 (Wed May 4 18:45:45 2011, 美东) 提到:
当战争结束的时候一个士兵应该说些什么
“战争结束了。”沙县小吃的老板叼着一根烟,一屁股坐在我的面前,眼神飘忽。
一口烟从他口中爬出来。
我感到不快。
当时我要了一笼包子,一个大份馄饨,吃的很开心,准备再要一只鸡腿,其实我更
想吃大排套餐里的大排,但是不知
道那个是否能单卖,我正在心中酝酿措辞。这个中年人一屁股坐在我的面前,一个单独
吃饭吃的面带笑容的顾客面前,
说了一句没头没脑的话,而且抽着烟。
“什么战争?另外,大排套餐里的大排单卖么?”我耐着性子问。
他起身去厨房,端来一口锅,满满全是卤味。蛋,豆干,鸡腿,大排。
“你这是……?”我问。
“随便吃,不要钱,如果你要白饭的话我去添。”他递给我一只大勺,“听我说说
话,我心里有话,一切都结束了,我得
说一说。”
这很合算。我点头。
“你看,”他手指不远处。一家兰州拉面... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******o 发帖数: 6125 | 22 其实这个$NATV:$NYTV也好,其他指标也好,
无非是想反映进攻型板块和防守型板块之间的切换关系和
是否有Divergence,你换成XLK:XLU或者Whaterever
效果估计都差不多的。 |
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s*****r 发帖数: 1745 | 23 in past three months diverged with shanghai and hang seng index big time.
what is coming next for it?
Thanks. |
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j******e 发帖数: 158 | 24 http://dragonflycap.com/2011/06/10/catching-the-chinese-cleaver
不会发图,大家看链接吧
Catching the Chinese Cleaver
Posted by Greg Harmon
on June 10th, 2011
Like the US Economy, Sina.com (ticker: $SINA) has hit its own little ‘rough
patch’ lately. It has fallen so far so quickly that traders are now
looking for a bottom or at least a tradeable bounce. But the story behind
this stock in the charts only looks worse the farther you step back in
timeframe. This makes it more like catching a falling Cle... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******o 发帖数: 6125 | 26 Read this 3 times:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Stock/33573277_3.html
If you understand what drives the market,
you shouldn't ask this question.
For double dip, double recession balabala..
$TNX is the way to go, and Friday and Monday,
there is a very obvious divergence between
$SPX and $TNX, and as always, bond market is smarter. |
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B********0 发帖数: 472 | 27 已经被洗出一大半。inner peace还是不够。Quite some divergence. |
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u****r 发帖数: 478 | 28 ESI and AFAM
buy price at market opne price on first day of first week of July.
NYSE:ESI Technical Analysis
NYSE:ESI - ITT Educational Services, Inc.
ESI - Sector: Services, Industry: Schools.
ESI gained 3.35% on 07/01/11.
ESI is trading in the range of $66.22 - $92.13 in the past 30 days.
Money Flow Index (MFI) is bearish and moving down for ESI.
The 10-day simple moving average is bullish and moving up for ESI.
Average True Range (Atr) is bullish for ESI.
Commodity Channel Index (CCI) is bulli... 阅读全帖 |
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r*m 发帖数: 16380 | 29 negative divergence?
lol |
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y*****l 发帖数: 5997 | 30 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
updownlife (渔夫) 于 (Fri Jun 24 09:30:43 2011, 美东) 提到:
比赛办法:
*每个参赛人员选择最多2个股票, 按照所选股票的6个月总体收益排名,前三名获大奖,所有报名都有奖
*比赛时间: 7/15/2011 - 1/15/2012
*报名时间: 6/23/2011 - 7/15/2011
报名办法:
* 每个参赛者选择 1-2 个在美国时常交易的公司(or industry etf etc)
* 每个参赛者提供自己对所选公司的分析报告
* 每个参赛者提供自己对所选公司股票的中长期操作数据:
(1) 买入点价格 : 买入点可以在参赛后15日调整,15天后还没有合适买入价的话将按
弃权处理
(2) 6个月内止损价格:若无止损,可设此价格为0
(3) 6个月内卖出价格: 若无target, 可设此价格为999999
* 报名者回此贴或单独开贴并著名参加中长期选股比赛
* 报名时间: 6/23 - 7/15
* 报名审核办法: 由版务审核通过的报名... 阅读全帖 |
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i*u 发帖数: 299 | 31 按照volume的形态,这不会是个HnS。
换个角度来看,lower price higher volume = negative divergence,TA们认为这是
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A********d 发帖数: 52 | 32 http://thewallstreetoperator.blogspot.com/2011/08/case-of-bear-
The Case of a Bear Market ...
For all the hoopla in the stock market, 2011 has been an extremely choppy
market. At this writing, S&P 500 has gone no where since the start of the
year. However the time is finally ripe for a bear break ...
In my last market missive, I talked about some dangerous signs pointing to
market internal deterioration, let's review what has happened since May 15,
2011.
Nasdaq made a nominal high of 2887.75 on ... 阅读全帖 |
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b******o 发帖数: 19 | 33 1. Why bother with percent? It appears to have a strong correlation to
forecast. Do they ever diverge for the same model?
2. Just list the extreme values on top instead of asking people to look down
and find the extremes. For example, if the current value is negative, list
the negative extreme on top. If the current value is positive, list the
positive extreme on top. |
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p********y 发帖数: 40 | 34 看divergency,譬如现在跌到上两次的地点了,你看看那些股票其实还没跌倒。
那么这些股票的momentum是向上的,那就可以捞一点。 |
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A***l 发帖数: 461 | 35 等个positive divergency就可以了。 |
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I***C 发帖数: 765 | 36 未眠神说的hh hl as the very basic condition.
你说的这些还可以结合复杂一些的条件看,比如说rsi,macd divergence 啥的,看啥
时牛熊的动能彻底释放掉了,作牛还可以看accumulation/follow through day, 当然
还可能有错,但是会把准确率提高很多,
最重要的是设止损,就像买保险的钱你是打算打水漂的,不打算要回来的,所以尽量找
便宜和可靠的保险买, |
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m********0 发帖数: 2717 | 37 I will just read from left to right without adding more lines to make
another commented graph.
I used mostly EMA20, green one, and occationally EMA50, red one.
1. price breaks down EMA20, downtrend
2. price breaks both EMA20 and EMA50, confirmed,
3. waited for a rebounce, and EMA20 croos EMA50 (I am not familiar with
terminology like gold crossing, dead crossing), might to short
4. price breaks both again, short confirmed.
5. at around time 35, it's another short opportunity during downtrend
whe... 阅读全帖 |
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m********0 发帖数: 2717 | 38 not many to recommand in a quantitative sense.
the only book cross my mind is
Momentum, Direction and Divergence
at least, William gave a good description on why and how he designed
those indicators.
I don't believe all he said, but it's logically sound with few assumptions.
If you really are interested with technical stuff but not to micro-structure
level, MTA has some interesting articles.
http://www.mta.org/eweb/dynamicpage.aspx?webcode=journal
there is another good journal with similar style... 阅读全帖 |
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m********0 发帖数: 2717 | 39 I guess I will stop this thread, as it's not as thought-provoking as I
thought.
But I decided to share my books on tradings I collected, most of them
are pdf (I bought some of them, stole most of them from internet, I owe
these authors a lot but I guess it's financially harmless as most ppl
here won't buy their books anyway :D
I will include no indicators files, no academic papers(as most ppl
here enjoy empirical stuff). Considering sharing some script, template,
real code.
Someone offers a safe... 阅读全帖 |
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f******d 发帖数: 6361 | 40 每当夜澜人静,我在仰望天空思考人生意义的时候,我都会反复吟诵:
1. price discounts everything
2. price moves in trends
3. history repeats itself
无论大家学习哪个流派的武功,到了何种境界:拿着几根均线排序乱指也好,用macd
divergence欺骗自己也好,用RSI超买超卖忽咻人民群众也好,用龟波气功数波数浪也
好,研究四度空间也好,学习箱体理论也好,把玩道氏理论也好,用非波纳斯找回撤支
撑阻力也好,whatever you name it,都千万不能忘记上面那三条圣律啊!!! |
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P******l 发帖数: 1648 | 41 整理一下各路高手观点
如果这是底 那就这几周的事了 要盯紧了
IBD 去年这时候也是almost no growth stock leader 金矿公司当道 几周后 mkt
rally并且成功
schaeffer说^vix 不破50 就没事 死叉多数情况短期1 week很惨 2week worst 中
期(3 months)不错 少数情况如2007-2008
现在看市场是按去年夏天还是2008走
大熊
spx 666 again
HQ 有一种可能是漫漫熊市
捞底分两种看法
bigbigbee 破前低 血洗捞底牛牛后 大盘站稳5MA才能买
老蛇 目前是反弹 08/09的lows最终是会破的,至少NYMO形成positive divergence
以后,才可能真正bottom
qiuyueshifu 破08/09 low 概率很小 (真破1100 就是大熊了)
zijing 大熊已走 |
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U********f 发帖数: 2482 | 42 William O'Neil, part deux
12:01a ET September 15, 2011 (MarketWatch) LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- The
telephone rang on a sunny Sunday afternoon in California. On the other end
was William O'Neil.
The living legend wanted to talk market.
When a man with one of the best track records extant wants to talk market,
you do not disappointment him.
Pieces of our conversation, which transpired on the 10th anniversary of 9/11
and then again on Sept. 14, are below. This a follow up to our email
exchange, ... 阅读全帖 |
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x****8 发帖数: 340 | 43 But Qiuyushifu already started bottom fishing...so opinion diverges now... |
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B*******n 发帖数: 20645 | 44 两个POSITIVE DIVERGENCE类似区域,这一次较弱。 |
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i******n 发帖数: 175 | 45 看日线图 MACD 的话,现在是快线在慢线下面。但如果这一次走着走着翻到上面去了,
那就形成比较明显的 divergence,比较牛了。这个是很有可能发生的,发生的话,会
支持上到箱型顶部的猜想。 |
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z****g 发帖数: 4616 | 46 Stanford Report, June 14, 2005
'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says
This is a prepared text of the Commencement address delivered by Steve Jobs,
CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, on June 12, 2005.
I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the
finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be
told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I
want to tell you three stories from my life. That's ... 阅读全帖 |
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b******r 发帖数: 16603 | 47 nice chart.
One concern here is that VIX kinda flat instead of diverging this time
compared to last two?
two |
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e**s 发帖数: 4638 | 48 大侠给总结一下先
23 October 2011
Draft Terms and Conditions
Maximising the lending capacity of the EFSF
The capacity of the extended EFSF can be enlarged without extending the
guarantees underpinning the EFSF. This optimisation would take due account
of the rules of the Treaty.
Within the terms and conditions of the endorsed framework agreement, the
maximization of EFSF efficiency would support the continued market access of
Euro area Member States under pressure and the proper functioning of the
sovere... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******r 发帖数: 355 | 49 今天祝贺新版主上任,说几句给班上的同蛙们,愿大家少亏多发
1 炒股最重要的是炒什么?炒耐心而不是炒热情,炒期望。股市的走向平时70%多时候
是噪音,不要冒然进入。学会反观过去5年以上的历史,看看股市的关键转折点的特点
,学位抓住这些点,即使时间早了,也会最终盈利而出。如果你遵循这些特点,大概一
年也就是3-5次的重大交易旋回。
2 数据,唯有数据。要忽略一切金融报刊杂志影视和古板的头条分析。着眼于数据。什
么是数据呢?不是bloomsbergs那样的每周经济数据,那些是人为忽悠用的,要重市场
内部找。譬如交易单子分析,股市Market交易的divergence,股市Options的分布和比
例;盘前盘后的synchronization数据等等,这些是硬数据,是我们散户淘宝挖掘金子
的信息之地
3 Contrarian指标是一个比较有用的TA指标
就这些,包你不亏钱,beat 98% of market aggregrations
BTW: 版主发个双簧包吧,不枉我码字辛苦,呵呵 |
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B*******n 发帖数: 20645 | 50 可以烧了么?貌似日线 negative divergence。 |
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