n****4
发帖数: 12553 | 1 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/simulated-world-elon-musk
-the-matrix
When Elon Musk isn’t outlining plans to use his massive rocket to leave a
decaying Planet Earth and colonize Mars, he sometimes talks about his belief
that Earth isn’t even real and we probably live in a computer simulation.
“There’s a billion to one chance we’re living in base reality,” he said
at a conference in June.
The rise of robots: forget evil AI – the real risk is far more insidious
Read more
Musk i... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2252 | 2 loveandhope 认为到底有没有 afterlife? |
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发帖数: 10 | 3 After my soul seperates from my body and I give out my last breath, it
travels.
It travels to where I was born, saw mother's smile.
It travels to where I was spoiled, saw warmest arms.
It travels to where I got married, saw sweetest lady.
It travels to where I got loved, saw tears in face.
It travels to where I was dumped, divorced, and killed in heart. |
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发帖数: 8 | 5 i'm not a christian but nevertheless interested in its explanation of the
concept of soul.
christians believe that everyone has a soul and god creates everything. but
except for adam and eve, how and when were all the other souls in this world
created? is it right to assume that the number of souls in the world keeps
increasing and god is busy doing the work all the time? everyone is talking
about afterlife, is there a beforelife in christianity? |
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h****i
发帖数: 254 | 6 请问我们能百分之百的证明任何东西存在吗？有办法百分之百的证明不吃东西就会死吗？总有可能下一个尝试不吃东西的人会不死反而得道升天对不对？这妨碍你相信要吃东西才能活吗？
科学家们认为地球上的生物是由共同祖先演化而来这个理论就像万有引力定律一样正确，有无数的证据支持。你却要因为圣经而去不相信它？你有多怀疑万有引力定律呢？
谁不期盼永生呢？秦始皇也很期盼，结果他吃永生仙丹吃死了。我们不能为了这个期盼而欺骗自己对不对？更没有必要说（however you want to justify it），你不信基督教的祖先亲人都在地狱里呆着，对不对？
从另外一个角度说，如果你获得了永生，你会做什么呢？如果我们不能enjoy短暂的人生，那么永生岂不是更难受？前不久有个哲学家写文章说他的后世将存活在他对其他人产生的正面影响中。带着这样的观点辞世，是不是可以让人安心无憾？
http://happydays.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/how-to-make-it-in-the-afterlife/ |
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发帖数: 3242 | 7 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
xdhbob (xdhbob) 于 (Fri Jan 9 20:31:01 2009) 提到:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/178726/page/2
The Lost Shepherd
From his bedroom turned office in Colorado Springs, Ted Haggard prepares
people for the afterlife. Not the roof-shaking "power encounters" with God
that once defined him as founder of New Life Church and leader of the 30
million–strong National Association of Evangelicals. Now he's offering
deliverance of a different sort: life insurance. Drummi |
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s****y
发帖数: 1574 | 8 非也，非也~~~~
1。Deists不是atheist，虽然我们都重视reason，认为宗教经典都是人类自己写的，等等。
我自己总结的几点主要区别在于：1）我们相信有神，神创造了宇宙万物，定了physics law，之后不再干涉；2）相信灵魂存在；3）相信圣洁生活，因为神本身圣洁；4）相信afterlife；5）反对堕胎，除非是被强奸或者other necessary medical reason, but definitely not just for convenience's sake; 6）很多Deists（包括我自己）每天祷告。不是那种“神啊，给我工作，给我这个，给我那个……”那种manipulative的祷告，而是不带目的、纯粹“感谢神……”这样的祷告。
2。我们有很多事要做，反对迷信，反对崇拜权威，反对因为宗教不同斗殴，还有积极地提倡独立思考，提倡理智，行善，等等等等。难道爱乐温同学您觉得我来这个版不是在做事，而纯粹是玩的吗？：（ |
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发帖数: 3714 | 9 灵魂是什么乱七八糟的东西，猴子有灵魂吗？
还有，你所谓的祷告应该是给自己听而不是“神”的吧，既然神不是人格化的？
或者这么说，如果你不知道嫉妒教或者任何其他教有“祷告”这一说，你还会祷告吗？
等等。
physics law，之后不再干涉；2）相信灵魂存在；3）相信圣洁生活，因为神本身圣洁
；4）相信afterlife；5）反对堕胎，除非是被强奸或者other necessary medical
reason, but definitely not just for convenience's sake; 6）很多Deists（包括
我自己）每天祷告。不是那种“神啊，给我工作，给我这个，给我那个……”那种
manipulative的祷告，而是不带目的、纯粹“感谢神……”这样的祷告。
极地提倡独立思考，提倡理智，行善，等等等等。难道爱乐温同学您觉得我来这个版不
是在做事，而纯粹是玩的吗？：（ |
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e*****n
发帖数: 3129 | 10 why 神创造了宇宙万物，定了physics law，之后不再干涉?
等等。
physics law，之后不再干涉；2）相信灵魂存在；3）相信圣洁生活，因为神本身圣洁
；4）相信afterlife；5）反对堕胎，除非是被强奸或者other necessary medical
reason, but definitely not just f
极地提倡独立思考，提倡理智，行善，等等等等。难道爱乐温同学您觉得我来这个版不
是在做事，而纯粹是玩的吗？：（ |
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t********n
发帖数: 571 | 11 可惜，还是落了一些俗套。人想出来的东东总是有些像的。
等等。
physics law，之后
不再干涉；2）相信灵魂存在；3）相信圣洁生活，因为神本身圣洁；4）相信afterlife
；5）反对堕
胎，除非是被强奸或者other necessary medical reason, but definitely not just
for convenience's sake; 6）很多Deists（包括我自己）每天祷告。不是那种“神啊
，给我工
作，给我这个，给我那个……”那种manipulative的祷告，而是不带目的、纯粹“感谢
神……”这样的祷
告。
极地提倡独立思
考，提倡理智，行善，等等等等。难道爱乐温同学您觉得我来这个版不是在做事，而纯
粹是玩的吗？：
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p****o
发帖数: 1340 | 12 相信灵魂。。。那么人死了以后会如何，去天堂，还是轮回呀？
等等。
physics law，之后不再干涉；2）相信灵魂存在；3）相信圣洁生活，因为神本身圣洁
；4）相信afterlife；5）反对堕胎，除非是被强奸或者other necessary medical
reason, but definitely not just for convenience's sake; 6）很多Deists（包括
我自己）每天祷告。不是那种“神啊，给我工作，给我这个，给我那个……”那种
manipulative的祷告，而是不带目的、纯粹“感谢神……”这样的祷告。
极地提倡独立思考，提倡理智，行善，等等等等。难道爱乐温同学您觉得我来这个版不
是在做事，而纯粹是玩的吗？：（ |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 13 唔，把圣经毁掉的耶和华教？
等等。
physics law，之后
不再干涉；2）相信灵魂存在；3）相信圣洁生活，因为神本身圣洁；4）相信afterlife
；5）反对堕
胎，除非是被强奸或者other necessary medical reason, but definitely not just
for convenience's sake; 6）很多Deists（包括我自己）每天祷告。不是那种“神啊
，给我工
作，给我这个，给我那个……”那种manipulative的祷告，而是不带目的、纯粹“感谢
神……”这样的祷
告。
极地提倡独立思
考，提倡理智，行善，等等等等。难道爱乐温同学您觉得我来这个版不是在做事，而纯
粹是玩的吗？：
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N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 14 有个说法：人会在失意时，转向宗教。---------宗教其实是loser精神苦闷时的麻醉
剂。
这个世界，资源的有限性，和人类欲望的无限性，构成矛盾。于是，大多人必然成
为loser，必然因为欲望的不能满足而痛苦。---------这个问题需要得到解决，一
些人付诸极端行为，并因此受到更深的惩罚；一些软弱的人，则开始否定欲望本身：
既然欲望不能实现，不如干脆说欲望本身是虚无缥缈的，此为佛教；或者，不如蔑
视现世的一切，将一切寄托与一个afterlife，此为基督教。 |
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发帖数: 292 | 15 基督教徒不需要申冤，因为他们的喜怒哀乐、他们的正义与邪恶都跟这个世界的不一样
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发帖数: 3056 | 16 When my son was around 3 years old, he used to ask me a lot of questions
about heaven. Where is it? How do people walk without a body? How will I
find you? You know the questions that kids ask.
For over a year, I lied to him and made up stories that I didn’t
believe about heaven. Like most parents, I love my child so much that I didn
’t want him to be scared. I wanted him to feel safe and loved and full of
hope. But the trade-off was that I would have to make stuff up, and I would
have to b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2456 | 17 哪位辛苦一下翻译翻译介绍给国人？其实内容不是很多。很多copypaste就可以了。
http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/
Amazon上好像还挺热的，其中有一个介绍很不错，不过比较长，有兴趣读杰佛逊版圣经
的人可以参考一下：
Thomas Jefferson was no Christian. Like many of the most famous of the
founding fathers, he was a Deist, and counted himself a Unitarian, but he
often said he was the sole member of a sect including no one but himself. He
had confidence in his own reason and conscience. He did admire Jesus,
saying, "Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him by his biogra... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1686 | 18 君子易系列丛书-六爻入门-解卦篇
前言
本资料中所讲内容为解卦的基础知识与思路，共分三部分内容，如下：
一、“解卦入手法”本章主要讲解，如何开始解卦，一个卦起出之后从何处入手；
二、“卦意象解”本章主要讲解，如何在旺衰的基础上，用取象的方法来分析出
一个卦的大部分信息。
三、“解卦思维”本章主要讲解解卦的思路。
声明
全篇内容均为基础解卦内容，没有高深的东西在其中，因本人水平有限，在这里只介绍
一些解卦方面的基础内容，如你已经能自己解卦，这里不会有太多的东西为你所用。如
有错漏之处还望大家批评指证。
目录
一、解卦入手法 1
第一课 取用之道 1
第二课 解卦信息提取法 2
第三课 定旺衰解卦法 6
二、卦意象解 8
三、 解卦思维（练手卦） 13
一、解卦入手法
六爻占卜之法，是以“六十四卦”中的爻来分析，所占之事的吉凶成败的，而其分析方
法，也就是其理论的基础点是卦中之爻的旺衰判断，只有对旺衰掌握的准确，才能更好
的进入下一阶段的分析，如果某一个学习都不能很好的掌握卦爻的旺衰，而只用一些技
巧性的东西或是背别人总结出来的断语，那他对卦的理解只能是停留在很... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1686 | 19 君子易系列丛书-六爻入门-解卦篇
前言
本资料中所讲内容为解卦的基础知识与思路，共分三部分内容，如下：
一、“解卦入手法”本章主要讲解，如何开始解卦，一个卦起出之后从何处入手；
二、“卦意象解”本章主要讲解，如何在旺衰的基础上，用取象的方法来分析出
一个卦的大部分信息。
三、“解卦思维”本章主要讲解解卦的思路。
声明
全篇内容均为基础解卦内容，没有高深的东西在其中，因本人水平有限，在这里只介绍
一些解卦方面的基础内容，如你已经能自己解卦，这里不会有太多的东西为你所用。如
有错漏之处还望大家批评指证。
目录
一、解卦入手法 1
第一课 取用之道 1
第二课 解卦信息提取法 2
第三课 定旺衰解卦法 6
二、卦意象解 8
三、 解卦思维（练手卦） 13
一、解卦入手法
六爻占卜之法，是以“六十四卦”中的爻来分析，所占之事的吉凶成败的，而其分析方
法，也就是其理论的基础点是卦中之爻的旺衰判断，只有对旺衰掌握的准确，才能更好
的进入下一阶段的分析，如果某一个学习都不能很好的掌握卦爻的旺衰，而只用一些技
巧性的东西或是背别人总结出来的断语，那他对卦的理解只能是停留在很... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 917 | 21 We are here for a reason, a responsibility to live. Try our best to make the
most out of our lives and when it's our time, we let go all. Yes, there are
problems we don’t have answers to. But at least we know what they are. How
can you be so sure you can handle whatever there is afterlife? We all fear
what you fear, yet we better deal with them than rush into the bigger
unknown.
Things that don't kill us make us Stronger. Things that unknown keep us
focused at NOW. Live at the moment. Stop the q |
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n********n
发帖数: 8336 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 Wisdom 讨论区 】
发信人: neohorizon (horizon), 信区: Wisdom
标 题: BioCentrism
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 13 19:44:32 2014, 美东)
Robert Lanza claims the theory of biocentrism says death is an illusion He
said life creates the universe, not the other way around This means space
and time don't exist in the linearfashion we think it does. In summary,
space and time are 'simply tools of our mind.'
The BioCentrism Theory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYyvtrDSEAQ
The afterlife dysfunction
http://www.yout... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 11247 | 23 把为了后代子孙的福祉当成行善的目的当然也行，问题是现代社会生育率越来越低，很
多人没有小孩，他们的人生意义从何而来？即使是有小孩的人，把自己的人生意义放在
小孩身上，是中国人一直没有改变过的观点，结果是贪官忙着把孩子送国外了，自己在
中国忙着捞钱，胡搞瞎搞，哪怕死后洪水滔天。。。”哪怕死后“就是中国人人生观和
世界观的一大误区，没有 afterlife 的观念，对作恶没有抑制的机制 |
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发帖数: 24893 | 24 http://www.prisoners.com/relcrime.html
宗教对犯罪率的影响
更加信仰基督的地方有更多的社会弊病和犯罪。这是格雷戈里。保罗在学术杂志《宗教
与社会》上发表的初步结论，这个杂志是内布拉斯加州一所教会学校的学报。
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
研究表明，基督教统治的美国南部和中西部地区，社会弊端和犯罪更严重，谋杀，性病
，死亡率更高。这项研究还表明，美国的犯罪率和基督徒比例，比其他发达世界国家都
高得多。
无法回避的现实是，基督教的教条更合适一个病态的社会。宗教狂热分子和极端主义比
毒品危害更大。
理性的人认识到基督教神话的荒谬可怜，而基督徒，尤其是福音派，或原教旨主义者，
不过是一些伪君子，用宗教作为武器来贬低他人。
格雷戈里。保罗的研究首次量化了基督教教义产生的社会效果。不只是基督教，一切狂
热的邪教都可能会有类似的邪恶效果。
当然，天主教会花了几百年压迫陷入贫困和苦难的老百姓。穆斯林有同样的呼吁
：暴力，复仇，排斥和压迫。
理智的人会奇怪宗教神话的诞生。
在美国，宗教=残酷。
Cr... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 25 Ben Kalka的上诉书，作为人文主义者他要在监狱里享受信仰待遇。
http://openjurist.org/215/f3d/90/ben-kalka-v-kathleen-hawk-et-al
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Ben Kalka was a federal prisoner. After his conviction in 1991, he was
incarcerated in seven different Federal Correctional Institutions ("FCIs").
Kalka claims to be a long-time member of the American Humanism Association (
"AHA"). He alleges that at six of the prisons, he attempted to form "
humanist groups within the chapels of the prisons they maintain," Complaint
at 12, but with one exceptio... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 26 为什么相像有可能是佛教在基督教起源前几百年就流传到中东了，
另外这里没看到佛教徒批评基督教，就看到基卫兵一口一个释迦魔尼了
communication
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发帖数: 81 | 27 当你读圣经旧约和新约时，你有没有觉得这两部经的内涵很不一样？旧约里有很多杀
戮，暴力，而新约里却充满了隐忍，戒律。有一本有趣的书是关于耶稣到东方取经：
The Lost Years of Jesus: Documentary Evidence of Jesus' 17-Year Journey to
the East ：
The Gospels record Jesus age 12 in the temple, then age 30 at the river
Jordan. Where was he in the interim? Ancient Buddhist manuscripts say Jesus
left Palestine and traveled to India, Nepal, Ladakh and Tibet. For the first
time, Prophet brings together the testimony of four eyewitnesses of these
remarkable manuscripts plus three diffe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1334 | 28 追求这种神秘体验，就算是佛教徒也是落入下下乘了。
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 29 说得好像你们不把什么圣灵感动奉为至宝，一提起来就感动的象出锅的面条一样，不同
的是，人家佛教徒还没
下乘到要靠这种所谓神秘体验来给自己证明神存在，这种证明方式还是挺悲哀的 |
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发帖数: 1334 | 31 佛教存在的原因是因为那时世人蒙昧无知，还不认识神，于是发现日光之下都是虚空，
虚空的虚空，一切都是虚空。这种对于佛教的认识是基于圣经的必然结果，并不是对佛
教徒个人有任何不尊重，每一个人，包括基督徒，在不认识神的时候都是这样，有修行
的佛教徒算是其中好的（不过拜偶像不算）。
佛教徒基于自己的信仰，勉强承认基督教是一种下乘修行，我觉得也是合乎其信仰的道
理的，我也不觉得是一种个人的骄傲。
因。 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 32 著名的基督教科学家爱因斯坦很蒙昧无知的反对你这种看法 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 33 著名的基督教科学家爱因斯坦很蒙昧无知的反对你这种看法 |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 34 I am believer of truth and love. My 四书 didnot ask me to accept someone ca
lled Jesus.
How to be a good person?
learn things and be disciplined
子曰：“君子博学与于文，约之以礼，亦可以弗畔矣夫。”
How to have a good afterlife?
be a good person, and God will do his part.
死生有命，富贵在天。
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 35 I am believer of truth and love. My 四书 didnot ask me to accept someone ca
lled Jesus.
How to be a good person?
learn things and be disciplined
子曰：“君子博学与于文，约之以礼，亦可以弗畔矣夫。”
How to have a good afterlife?
be a good person, and God will do his part.
死生有命，富贵在天。
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 36 Paul is a Pharisee. And his cultural tradition of believing in afterlife
still stuck within the Christianity he created.
But I think even Paul would be amazed to see how people treat his personal
letters, considering so much has happened in human history.
Why is this fool/hypocrite complex always exists in culture. We also found
it in communism... |
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发帖数: 418 | 37 If you are really interested in knowing. I can recommend you two books to
read. You might have an idea of what the afterlife is like.
"Heaven is for real", "90 minutes in heaven"
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 38 List of studies
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Among contemporary scientists—physicists and biologists—about 40% held
strong religious beliefs in 1997, which closely matched those of a similar
1916 poll.
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According to a 1996 survey of United States scientists in the fields of
biology, mathematics, and physics/astronomy,
belief in a god that is "in intellectual and affective communication with
humankind" was most popular among mathe... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 39 http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/abc-20-20-mormon-temple
ABC’s “20/20” program tonight with Barbara Walters features discussions
with religious leaders from various faiths about their views on heaven and
the afterlife.
One of Walters’ guests is Elder William R. Walker, a member of The Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Seventy. Elder Walker talks with
Walters about Latter-day Saint temples — particularly the temple’s
celestial room, which he says reminds us “that we’re on our way ... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 40 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/07/inside-one-of-the
It’s a room few get to see, with high ceilings, comfortable furnishings and
an ethereal brightness that’s meant to evoke images of heaven.
Called the Celestial Room, it’s one of the most sacred rooms of a Mormon
temple.
The purpose of the room is “to remind us that we’re on our way back to God
. We’re on our way back to Heaven. That’s our objective,” Elder William R
. Walker, a senior leader within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latt... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 41 Isaac Asimov
“I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't have to spend my whole life
fearing hell, or fearing heaven even more. For whatever the tortures of hell
, I think the boredom of heaven would be even worse.”
“To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and
it remains premature today”
“If I am right, then [religious fundamentalists] will not go to Heaven,
because there is no Heaven. If THEY are right, then they will not go to
Heaven, because they are hypocrites.”... 阅读全帖 |
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t****e
发帖数: 2737 | 42 很多人的亲身经历。
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-after-life/
In Life After Life Raymond Moody investigates case studies of people who
experienced clinical death and were subsequently revived.
This classic exploration of life after death started a revolution in popular
attitudes about the afterlife and established Dr. Moody as the world’s
leading authority in the field of near-death experiences.
The extraordinary stories presented here provide evidence that there is life
after physical death, as Moo... 阅读全帖 |
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t****e
发帖数: 2737 | 43 很多人的亲身经历。
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-after-life/
In Life After Life Raymond Moody investigates case studies of people who
experienced clinical death and were subsequently revived.
This classic exploration of life after death started a revolution in popular
attitudes about the afterlife and established Dr. Moody as the world’s
leading authority in the field of near-death experiences.
The extraordinary stories presented here provide evidence that there is life
after physical death, as Moo... 阅读全帖 |
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t****e
发帖数: 2737 | 44 很多人的亲身经历。不看不知道，死后另外一番天地啊。
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-after-life/
In Life After Life Raymond Moody investigates case studies of people who
experienced clinical death and were subsequently revived.
This classic exploration of life after death started a revolution in popular
attitudes about the afterlife and established Dr. Moody as the world’s
leading authority in the field of near-death experiences.
The extraordinary stories presented here provide evidence that there is life
after physic... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 45 http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/18/my-take-six-things-i-d
My Take: Six things I don't want to hear after the Sandy Hook massacre
By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN
(CNN) – There are a lot of things I am sick of hearing after massacres such
as the one at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Here
are six of them:
1. “It was God’s will.”
There may or may not be a God, but if there is, I sure hope he (or she or it
) does not go around raising up killers, plying them with semi... 阅读全帖 |
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H**********1
发帖数: 3056 | 46 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Hardworking1 (我忽悠，你参考！), 信区: Belief
标 题: Good article: God is nonsense
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jan 15 23:06:22 2013, 美东)
When my son was around 3 years old, he used to ask me a lot of questions
about heaven. Where is it? How do people walk without a body? How will I
find you? You know the questions that kids ask.
For over a year, I lied to him and made up stories that I didn’t
believe about heaven. Like most parents, I love my child so much that I didn
’t want him t... 阅读全帖 |
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s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 47 Religious fervor is not limited to Christianity.
Big deal.
Communist martyrs give their lives for their cause without any belief of
afterlife. What do you say about that?
All your posts in the serie only prove that Christianity shares some nice
traits with many other believes. Nothing more. |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 48 Freedom from fear for the afterlife may be the best thing about being an
atheist. Atheist people are more free to discover about their own existence
and much more open with regards to details that are disregarded by religious
people.
Atheist are people who put their mind to the extent of getting the
information that they needed in accordance to evidence and not because of
influential factors.
I can say that atheist are people as free as eagle. Free to soar the world
in their own perspective. |
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