W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 1 i would not call me trying 6 max NL25 as taking a shot. I am quite confident
I can beat that level at 6 max. But the hourly winning rate is not going to
be remotely close to what I make in NL100 fullring.
On the other hand, Changing my game from FR NL100 to 6 max NL100 will take a
bit more time for adjustment. Unless I think FR NL100 is drying out completely
compared to 6 max, I see no reason for the change for myself. Additionally,
I still need rush to accumulate enough volume for me. The 6 max... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 2 我好像看到说6-max可能达到的winning rate 是比FR要小的
confident
to
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 Anything other than "it depends" will not be very accurate in my opinion. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 5 补充一下，别的网站不知道，我现在玩的小网站10NL,95% ppl 3bet rate < 5%, 造成
出现pf 3bet 4bet的fight非常少，我所见到的凡是3bet>10%的都是huge loser。由此
想到，要想更有效率的获利，不应该有个固化的strategy，而是要针对对手的数据来玩
阿。 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 6 6max super turbo:
blind is 20/40,
btn fold, stack 415
sb shove, stack 880+20(small blind)
AQo at bb, stack 445+40(big blind)
call or fold?? |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 I think those small site could pack all sharks there later on.
Because they have a small player pool, however, regs will reside there, fish
will occasionally come. Later on, 3+ regs on each 6max table. |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 8 yes
have to switch to 6max
more fish
to |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 how is nl 50 6max there? lots of fish? how do u do post bf? |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 50NL and 25NL. hard to find tables open.. lost all the coin flop on 6 max table they keep 3 betting with 9s 5s.. 3 bet with 9s i 4 bet AQ. 9 high board fish donk shove pot size bet i call with high card. that does not even show up on the ev plot.. I also lost KK vs AQ preflop
bad luck~~ no new deposit luck i guess...
I got some back but still down. I am done for the day.. need to get use to the software too.. font is way too small. I can hardly see. I also keep reraising and betting the wrong ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 11 我最近弄到lock上，因为有rakeback，玩了一个星期，全是6-max
3000手50NL 23.90bb/100
4000手25NL 0bb/100
我是有做一些table selection，逮着我标记的几个鱼打
table they keep 3 betting with 9s 5s.. 3 bet with 9s i 4 bet AQ. 9 high
board fish donk shove pot size bet i call with high card. that does not even
show up on the ev plot.. I
to the software too.. font is way too small. I can hardly see. I also keep
reraising and betting the wrong size preflop.
The NL50 FR is pretty soft, 6max is a lot more aggressive I played both.
lost mostly on 6 ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 14 很多可以看出来是赢了免费赛来随便玩玩的
升级以后比升级之前轻松很多，升之前很痛苦，NL50桌又少，鱼又少
升级NL100之后基本上就是找鱼/比较弱的reg猛打
我的cash水平在BF之前基本是小输。BF之后专门突击了一些6max SSNL的视频，另外之
前看到MM讨论中一些思路也很有启发。 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 15 I totally agree with you on the learning part!
Before BF, I can only say I can make money from 6-max ST on FTP.
After BF, I was forced to play cash on Merge. I can't even beat 25NL before
BF. But I spent a lot of time on reading NL cash materials and watched at
least 100
vids(6max or HU cash) from CR.
I think I can play at 50NL level on Merge, at least break even before RB.
But I am not sure whether this will apply to mid-stake NL cash because I
felt
uncomfortable playing 6-max midstake cash gam... 阅读全帖 |
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h******n
发帖数: 4 | 17
我是台湾人 但牌手称不上… 只是个娱乐型玩家
Galfond的影片当然是水准最好的，但不一定最适合刚入门或是从NL转过去打PLO的人。
而且我自己感觉Galfond的影片中，最好的似乎还是NLHE HU >>> PLO or NLHE 6max
另外就是PLO现在似乎赢家的风格差距相对NLHE还是比较大的，所以我猜多看各种名家
打牌应该不碍事。
另外还有一个比较少人知道的网站：
http://www.pokerphenoms.com/
是以前的pokernews strategy
以前曾经为了看nanonoko的影片订阅过
我知道里面的LitleBastrd 做的plo影片似乎也不错
URnotINdanger2 则是NLHE PLO双方面都很厉害的高手… |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 18 bvb KJo基本够好了吧
我看到高等级的6max里面 bvb KJ算是在4-bet allin range里面 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 19 for the part of not 3 bet light on button when a fish is on blinds,
I saw a lot of videos about MSNL on cardrunners talked about this strategy.
In fact, the coach "nutedawg" on CR always stressed that you should always
open your range against fishers when you have position. For example, open
raise J8s on UTG in 6max games against fishes on blinds. I think it is
actually much easier to make proft when targeting huge fishes at MSNL.
situation arises in live game than on-line game. The logic behi... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 20 我觉得我没有天赋，beat不了更高级别的
我50是winning的，6max 100是break even的，可能merge的pool比较小，现在100就很
少很少鱼，我又重新去打FR的100
我觉得没有请个人教练之前很难beat 100以上的级别，我打得只是按照大多数MSNL视频
里面的思路，我想这些人肯定有所保留的，一些细节故意讲不清楚，不然就没人去找他们
做个人教练了吧？
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think
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 21 今年初算是转折吧，赶着black friday之前从25NL 6max输家变赢家。
感觉算是会打一点poker了。
新年展望：希望再和大家聚一次。
完毕。 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 22 u mean imglated something? he is from Hong Kong, living in U.S then.
he is ok reg, but I do not think he is really good.A little bit over loose.
Most of these NL 400 rush regs are semi decent, but I did not see
many very good players there. A few redline pro regs are pretty good
though.
that is the nature of rush. . A lot of NL400 rush reg are NL 5-10 or NL
10-20 reg, some are even 10-25NL regs. Most of them were 6 max players and
they played a little big over aggressive for F... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 23 she mostly plays 10-20NLor 25-50NL at PS recently. not quite small stake.
Considerd cap structure, it is not really big game though. I think she made
most of her money since she moved up.
Do you know any place that I can find strategy for 6max or FR cap
cash game? 20BB/player structure
back
pro |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 24 讲NL 和PLO的optimal play的，大概是从10年夏天写到11年初的
我个人认为从数学角度讲，他讲的很棒，很完整。从理论角度
解决了我以前preflop 3/4/5 bet的疑惑。我个人决定使用这个
策略打一阵看看。原作者写得非常长，对没有NL数学理论基础的
人也能看。如果有了基础的人，可以跳着直接看结论。由于是比
较新的技术，对很多07，08年的策略进行了修改，应该算是与时
俱进。这几篇blog要是放到收费网站都得值不少钱，很多做视频
得coach讲的都不如这个系统。可以结合这些理论+牌例+看视频
里面其他的coach讲的postflop思路检查自己的leak。
NL 6-max optimal 3/4/5bet策略
http://en.donkr.com/Articles/Category/Optimal-3-bet--4-bet--5-b
这里的optimal PF基本上是研究透了6max 的PF策略，optimal的意思是
不管对什么样的对手你都没有办法被对方利用你的缺点，但是不是最好
的结果，最好的办法是exploitable的策略，意思就是你可以针对对手
进行不同... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 25 恩，他这个针对的对象应该是micro->25NL这样级别能赢钱的人，教他们Mid
Stake 6max怎么打。
为了让很多人都能看懂，他里面讲一个事件的概率为什么是这样的公式都会
写好几行所以文章非常长。
备啊。 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 26 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一手QQ 原始情况是有人3bet了，QQ怎么办
这个我觉得很难讲的，很多时候我觉得是border line要看3bet的人的数据
如果是normal 3bet数据，我会4bet/call。我觉得cold 4bet的range应该
和early position遇见3bet以后4bet range相当，我认为是(QQ+,AK)
这里的前提是100bb stack，6max table并且只有one raiser，one 3better的情况
其他squeeze的话变化更多了，因为很多人squeeze range会紧点，要重新看 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 27 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一手QQ bobo兄 你以前一直在玩merge的25NL 6max，来说说这个player pool preflop 3bet/
4bet/5bet风格。
我打了一阵了，为什么我老觉得everyone is conservative on preflop reraise。
some loose guys always got punished by 4bet light being caught or fold to
5bet shove，再后来，所有人都不4bet light了，反而很多是flat 3bet。还是说这是
我的打法的原因，让我看不到他们的实际range。
请指教 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 28 60$ 打到700$， 很艰辛啊。 板上的live 大鲨不要笑我小本经营啊。 ***blush***
还发现我打6max 很烂啊，只输不赢啊。 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 29 多久打了一万手啊
6max才打了几百手。。。
我就是一个rakeback选手，我现在总数还是-0.3BB/100手呢 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 31 我只有一个6max 的super turbo shoving range，其他的没有算
可以拿SNGWiz来算
shoving |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 32 8桌一小时直奔2k手去了吧？
我打6max一小时最多最多1.2-1.3k手就会乱了 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 33 36 bi in FR or 6max? if fr, it is a little bit too much. you may tighten
up your range/play somewhat, bluff less and thin value bet less, and try to
get more value from real hand.
usually low stake are very soft, you can get it back quickly. spend less
time on playing, take more time to watch some training vid/reading books etc
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weeks |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 34 为什么都喜欢打6max，9max varience更小一些吧，因为看得flop更少 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 35 I am serious. Since I know reaver and dch also played 6max on Merge, we can
share some
info. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 36 bobo 同志, 先说说为十么你喜欢打6max 多过FR? |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 37 action多啊，我现在也喜欢6max，fr太无聊了 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 38 能推荐一些ST SNG的资料吗
最近6max打得很tilt，又被1/2狂搞了，现在在1/2上已经(-5000/EV-600)了 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 39 the same, 2.1% for ht husng. 4% for ht 6max/9man |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 40 昨天第一天转过去，6max 100NL里面5x/1x的人还不少。。
后来上2p2一看，原来是很多Lock上的人因为转network，钱没弄好没开始打
估计今天要悲剧了 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 41 不知道啊，我打的是6max
cake现在总数也就4k而已。。。。好像比平常多了1k
Merge好像比平常少了4k左右。。。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 42 这个毫无疑问。 不过开不出普通桌怎么办？ 如果鱼都在badbeat table赢率会比普通
桌高一点？ badbeat 的钱没有rakeback 吧？ 这个对6max 的赢率影响比FR 更大。 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 43 不知道6max NL100有10桌左右，FR好像开不怎么出来 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 44 再贴几个有意思的 6max的. 好象是比FR 水平要高.
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Merge $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -
BTN: $20.02
SB: $109.98
Hero (BB): $54.64
UTG: $67.88
MP: $31.00
CO: $32.88
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Kd Qc
2 folds, CO raises to $1.43, 1 fold, SB calls $1.18, Hero raises to $6.50, 1
fold, SB calls $5.07
Flop: ($14.43) 6h 2s 3c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.00, SB raises to $18, Hero calls $10
Turn: ($50.43) 8c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30.14, SB folds
Final Pot: $50.43
Hero win... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 45 lol merge 50nl 6max, 看来马上要跟mm老湿有交集了，好好领教传说中的never
stopped aggression 呵呵 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 46 为什么要一昧追求波动大？ 波动大了， 你的赢率提高了吗？ 当我们每次push/repush
nut flush draw 的时候， 我们有想过对面坐着的鱼用十么牌在raise 和call我们吗
？ 打牌又不是看谁的波动大，谁的all in 多， 最后还是看谁的赢率高。一昧追求波
动大， 最后连自己的真正赢率都不知道了。需要agressive 的时候， 当然agressive,
需要追求thin value 的时候当然thin value bet(这是live game 最赚钱的）。 在
Fill ring game 里盲目追求波动不可取。 FR和 6max/HU 不一样。
pot |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 呼唤牌贴！ 超级伯伯crush NL100 6max 了吗？ |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 48 fold得太nb了
我fold不掉啊
哦是FR，我以为6max |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 49 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 phil Galfond 就在他2+2的well里说如果他打micro stake 会玩40/12.
Jim 大大, lihai, vely lihai.
我现在也就周末偶尔玩玩。 Full ring 没table 也会开6max（merge FR 的NL100 你
妹的基本开不出来啊）. 可能已经被Jim 老大血洗过了。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 50 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 瞎说， 哪有取笑？。我还等你包养呢。你和bobo 是不是有个讨论牌局的群？ 我可不
可以加入学学6max? |
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