t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 1 fryking 10bb/100, 他的NL25就相当于我这种2.6bb/100的NL100 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 2 昨天有把类似的， 我是call的那个。
I had QQ UTG and open raised 3x bb, all folded to big blinds who called.
Flop 57J rainbow, big blinds checked, I bet 4bb and big blinds mini raised
to 8bb, I called. Turn 7, big linds checked, I checked. River 7, big blinds
bet 6bb and I called. He showed 55. |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 3 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 最近3万手 平均4.6bb/100， 离老大的10bb/100还是有差距。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 for example, 25NL rush, you hold AcTs, a marginal hand but with position.
pre-flop, one limper at MP, you're at CO (60BB effective stacks for you two)
. you decide to raise to 4x, either take it down here or isolate BTN/SB/BB.
yes, they all fold, but MP calls.
flop: Ks9s2d. MP checks to you, you miss flop but decide to c-bet anyway,
6BB into 9.5BB pot. MP calls.
turn is a card you don't like, 3s. MP checks again, and you now worry a
little bit, with a Ts, you decide to check.
river is Ad, he che |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 5 What if there is 3BB and then 3X re-raise (10BB) ahead of you (you have 70BB,
RUSH 25, it is 17$), do you call? Or a limper and then a 6BB raiser?
I fold (small pair,77-) most of time.
medium |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 6 NL50 好象是比 NL25 容易。我在 NL50能有 6bb/100, 在 NL25 才 3bb/100. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 7 it is 4BB/100 in term if abs $. W/ rake it could be 6BB in $ term. Nice to
try out while making similar money. |
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s*y
发帖数: 124 | 8 NL 1-2:
I(80BB) was in middle position with AhKs and first raised to 6BB, a
Russian guy (100BB) just joined the table called from the cutoff. Everyone
else fold.
Flop: AsJd7c. I bet 7.5BB, Russian guy called.
Turn: 3d. I checked, Russian guy bet 5BB, I called.
River: Kh. I bet 5BB, Russian guy raised 35BB, I fold.
I think I did not play this hand well but have no clue how to play it. Did
the Russian guy flopped a set?
Could anyone give some analysis on this hand? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 no, in live, and especially in $1/2NL (the lowest they offer), 3x is nothing
, and the standard is more like 6BB+ for some hands, not even necessarily be
AA/KK/AKs/QQ alike.
most of ppl have no idea what they're doing, and think 44 or JQo is a good
hand to limp call $13.
river. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 very nice work buddy. well done.
Hope to see you back at the game soon.
看来NL100 和NL200 这个瓶劲还是挺严重的, 后面2万手几呼是even.. 你rush的进程今年和我差不多, 胜率比我强率很多, 升级比我也快...6bb/100 很厉害...能把不同级别的赢率分开写一写吗? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 bank roll也从5K提高到了
70K ($4000 from ring game with average of 6bb/hand, $1600 from tourney with
ROI of 40%, $300 from initial bonus, $600 from rakeback)。
is 70K a typo or for real? |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 13 One hand from rush NL100 last night. I just started my game in a few
minutes with 55BB, got QQ at middle position. I open raised 3BB. All
folded to button. Button called with a stack at 80BB. Flop 985 rainbow, I
bet 6BB, button called. Turn Q, I bet 12 BB, button called. River 3, no
flush possibility, I bet 15BB, button shoved instantly. I had 19BB left.
What should I do here? what did button have? straight, two pairs, burst
straight draw, set? |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 14 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Goes hehe, 最近战绩还可以，打了40K NL00，能保持6BB/100. Feel pretty confident in
Nl100.
my short term goal reached--move to NL100 from Nl50.
sometime, my daily swing is big, could down 4 buy-in and up 3 buy-in in a
single day. Sometimes I play too aggressive like donk especially when I play
back to some LAG guy, I lost big when LAG guy indeed has hand. I need
balance it.
Hope can build more bank roll and go to NL200 by end of this year.
what's your plan? |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Goes 原来打算打到12k bank roll 升级.. 后来觉得在 NL100 打得不好, 觉定等成绩好些再
说.. 最近还行.. 旧帐户为了bonus 才开始打的, 到上周末1.1万手有5.6bb/100 盈利.. 新帐户打得一般.. 主
要前面太差, 总共5万手只有1.5bb/100 hand, 不过最今两星期也有5bb/100 hand.. 感
觉打法上还是改进不少, 明显凶, 偷了很多不小的锅...3 bet rate 都超过了3%, 很多
都是squeeze 的...
再打打看把, build up bank roll 再说... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 16 3万手. 两帐户都打到了6bb/100 hand. 看来最近打法改进好象还有点用. My red line is finally putting up a fight too!
当然也希望不是因为这月为刷bonus而鱼多的原因... |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 赞，这么大的坑俺还没有跳过，进去还能爬出来更是不易。
俺这个月看来要虎头蛇尾，月初10K hands，高达13.6BB/100，中间疲软，有两个周末
各下去4 buy-ins，不怨别人怨自己失常，大起大落，4个还是在毛驴拉一把的前提下，
呵呵。月末又起来一点，归根结底还是要吃rakeback的本。
cash (till today): $597.13
tourney (only some micro ones): $71.51
rakeback: $311.51
total = $980.15 + a few tourney tokens.
手
近1 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 18 What is your best move for following hands
1. NL100, me 108BB, villian is 9/9, had me covered
fold to villian (mp5) raise to 3bb, I called at SB with 7c7h, BB fold
flop 6d3d6h (pot 7bb), I check villian bet 4.5BB, I check-raise to 15BB,
villian called
turn 2s (pot 37bb), I bet 23 BB, villian called
river Jh (pot 83 bb)
what he has? what's your best move for this hand?
2. NL100, me 103bb, v1 53bb no history, v2 70bb 22/7
1. fold to utg+2, raise to 3bb, v2 called, I called with AQo at BB (probably... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 (假设你有一定玩牌经验，也准备玩1/2NL的)
你最有可能出现的问题是不了解live赌场牌桌规则，这个各赌场大同小异，但是有几点
要特别注意的：
1)看这个赌场是否使用牌桌中间象跑道一样的那条线，一些赌场如果你的筹码拿过了这
条钱，就算已经进入pot了。另外一些赌场是要求牌必须拿在筹码的前面；
2)string bet，这个网上和home game都不会出现这种问题，但是live要求很严格。就
是说比如你要raise $50，你不能分两次，左手拿$20放进去，右手再回头去拿另外$30.
..这个只能算前面的$20，而且只能算bet $20(如果还没有action的话)或者call(假设
要$25才够call的话，你还需要加放$5，但是无论如何，你都失去了raise权力)；
3)所以最好最稳妥的方法的口头先说你的action，call不是问题，但raise一定要讲清
楚，raise多少可以稍后再说，这样自己有时间去数筹码。同理，all-in一定要高声讲
清楚；
4)不要轻易muck自己的牌，有疑问的牌再三确认，一旦你的牌越过了线，或者有明确的
muck动作，你的牌就是死牌了，就算你看错了... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****r
发帖数: 2123 | 20 BB可能是QJ， 当然后面可能还有人有AK之类的。
live game 要raise就要raise 6BB。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 21 pretty good run.
Like I said in the other thread. Win rate does not have down swing. Only Bank roll has down swings. If you can never sustain winning profit, then you just don't have a winning rate, plain and simple.
If I run 6bb/100 hand for 10k hand then next 10k i goes -8bb/100 and the
cycle goes on and on. Then I am just a -2bb/100 hand loser over all. I can't say that I am a winning player but I got unlucky on the 10k losing hand. Why does more people think they are winning player in p... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 nicky went further a little bit like 45th or so for $5700. he was super
short like 6BB when cmis91 was still deep and about 70 left.
top 5 all made $100K+, nice shot for a day. |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 23 也不一定，看你们有多deep了。
hit trip或者2 pair的概率是4%。他多出6bb call你3 bet，如果hit two pairs，要是
能赢whole stack也不错。但是只寄希望这种情况发生还是不够justify pot odd。打的
loose的关键还是在于他有信心看flop后能outplay你。如果你没hit上high face card
，pot是 28j 怎么办。J9还是有可能hit上很多draw，或者mid甚至top pair。要我也
call 3 bet，除非确定对手很大概率QQ+。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 24 In the morning, I spend 20 minutes to play 8 games, and have 4 bubbles. I
get beated every time I call other's allin.
I know it is not my day. And I should not call allins on the bubbles at all,
that is one huge mistake.
In the afternoon, I play super turbo sng again. This time, I shove allin by
myself, and get called every time.
Sometimes, the calling is just totally no-sense.
For example: I have K6s from SB, and I have note on BB("when I limp, he will
shove"), so I shove from SB. Get snap call... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 25 wow, nice. That is 6BB/100. I bet only hourly rate is over lawyer's
bad
the |
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d******u
发帖数: 142 | 26 4月29日晚 4月30日白天 4月30日晚 5月1日白天 5月1日晚 合计
xumonkey -3000 -500 6000 3000 1500 7000
sparkxy 1800 -4600 -1400 6000 -5000 -3200
swapper -2000 -5000 6000 1000 7000 7000
verimper 1200 7000 2000 1500 2400 14100
dudu -2000 1300 200 null null -500
hikki -5000 null -2500 -... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 $200/hour
-----sounds very strange.
1) live game means only one tabling, generally you will be dealt 40 hands per
hour. I guess only 8-10 hands is playable. If you play all 10 hands, then it
is 25% vpip, which is a lot.
I still make the assumption of 10 hands.
2) $200. Supposing you play 5/10, it is 20BB. Even we do not count the all
other factors in, such as the tips, the commute fee, it is still a lot.
If we calculate the win rate, it is 20BB/40 hands, which is equals to 50BB/
100 hands, I do ... 阅读全帖 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 28 patrickcp- "I never bluff", but you will never see me do
...太搞了...他最喜欢说的是“I'm weak-tight", 然后pre不raise到6bb的时候屈指可
数... |
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F*******T
发帖数: 11 | 29 Deep stack 和 shallow stack tourney 打法很不同吧。后者，6bb还可以翻身。
down
to
distributions
agree |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 30 这几个月来以业余的来说打了很多牌.
本来是想仔细的recap从四月到六月的highlights.可是we live in the present! 所以
就简单的bullet point 吧~
1) LP成功的把一个小bankroll成长到可以take shots at 20/40 LHE. Take shot的结
果不错,目前大概+$3000. 她又自己开始看2p2,问的问题也比较有意义. 乐观的我认为
她应该已经是small winner at weekend LA 20/40 games.
2) 虽然六月让我想吐with a 250 big bet downwing. 整体来说还是非常满意的. Q2打
了175小时的20/40赢~1.2big bet per hour (BB/hr). 145小时的40/80赢~1.75BB/hr.
9小时的60/120输了~6BB/hr 哭(technically this was in July, but oh well I
didn't export my data right on July 1st)). 零零星星打了30-40小时... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 小对最大的顾客就是大对(包括AK flopped TKTP)。
1/2NL这种stake，要一般人理性的扔掉AA/KK/AK，很困难很困难，基本上你只要中了
flop，double up都是岗岗的，preflop 10x以内俺觉得都可以call，尤其有位置，对方
deep，multi-way。
更何况1/2NL里面, 5x, 6x这样的raise比比皆是，不是比如tournament里面真正的5BB
，6BB那么强。
长期而言，小对比AA/KK有意思多了。
不会 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 32 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手请教 补充一点ptbb是两倍大盲注的意思，3ptbb=6bb |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 33 31BB shove去赢 6BB 左右的死钱。后面两个人没说话。没什么问题。
如果一桌子都是 call station，我也会这么直接推了。
不然raise 5BB 都call，进去没法打。
raise 10bb还不如全推了。 |
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l*****n
发帖数: 114 | 34 chip leader是blind raise，我shove没有任何fold equity，最好也就是coin flip
当时两桌有好几个4-6BB的短筹，
我最后还是call了1BB看flop
翻牌Ad8d9d
SB看牌后shove
我的TJ没有d，call还是fold？
30 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 35 前言：
哥一直跟朋友讲，打牌绝对不能无脑模式化，要有质疑精神，钻研精神。可是哥自己始
终还是无法坚决贯彻。浪费了真金白银买来的hm2的大好资源。每天貌似打很多手牌，
但是打过算过，也不复盘总结，这样下去真的是白白浪费中年的大好时光。
哥最终还是下定决心，牺牲tourney被knockout之后打dota的时间，每天花个半小时看
看复盘、写写扑克日记。
背景介绍：
哥就是屌丝中的战斗机...
2010年6月充值，从online micro stake 6－max cash game和freeroll、micro buy－
in tournament开始打起，享受着上上下下的快感，前后投入总额270刀，逐步升级，
2013年之前主打50NL 6－max cash game ＋ 3刀至11刀买入级别的tourney，盈利不错
。2013年头2个月running super good，重心逐步转到tourney，对tourney strategy、
心理控制以及资金管理方面有一点点心得(虽然skill set还属中下游，每天还在不停的
犯错)。哥完全依靠数据打牌。最喜欢说的两句话，it dep... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 36 难道又是超级悲剧的一天
1 4.5k gtd 1r/1a 11 + 10 + 10
2 3k gtd 1a 60 + 55
3 4k gtd turbo 44
4 7.5k gtd 11
5 2.5k gtd 1a 11 + 10
晚上8pm，internet 开始抽筋，果断de-register第六场，试图借邻居的网络完成剩下
的比赛，不想，laptop运行poker软件又碰到问题，折腾到了9点，internet自动恢复，
哥一边问候comcast一边打开poker软件，
3号已经挂了
1号<10bb, 果断shove，挂
2号，尼玛120刀的买入啊！哥断线的时候是10k的chips，回来只有4.8k，且盲注400，
第二手哥小盲，44果断3bet shove utg chips leader的2bb open。对手tank and fold
，嘟嘟哝哝说kq，30% equity都没有，真把哥当rock了。紧接着下一把，哥button
with k5o，15bb stack，ope... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 37 哥越来越体会到，越到后来，payout jump对决策的影响越大，只凭感觉来决定对策，
真的是在送钱。争取这个星期内，在原来的app上加入icm的计算。
昨晚手贱，8点的时候报了一个低买入高保证金的tourney，尼玛900人，整整耗了哥6个
半小时，只赢了一点点零花钱。
分享两手牌，哥不确定自己打的对不对，看看大家意见。
hand 1, ~40bb stack, position 5/11, hero kjo 19/17/6 open 2.5bb on utg+1,
all fold to sb, 18bb stack 21/15/4, who is an average player with not- high
aggression factor, call, bb fold
(pot ~6.2bb)flop 2c6cJd, villain check, hero bet ~3.8bb, v call
(pot ~14bb)turn 8h, v check, hero bet ~4.6bb, v call
(pot ~24bb)river 9s, v donk pot size ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 38 1 5.5+5+5
2(0815) 11+10+10
3(8203) 11 $26.22
4(4529) 3.3
5 11
6(7995) 11
7(9995) 11+10+10
8(399) 3.3+3+3
1, late registered, did notice it is a turbo. I only have 5bb on big blind
with QTo, shove and lost. Double re-buy, 10bb on small blind with KQs, shove
, knockout. 迅雷不及掩耳盗铃啊 ~_~b
2, kinda run good at beginning, 2 sets cleared 2 overplay guys. Is today my
SET day?lol, 66 flat at btn and hit another set, cleared a donk's combo draw
. 2 hours lat... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 39 1 750 gtd 11
2 750 gtd 3.3 + 3.3 $7.63
3 1.5k gtd 11 $219.42
4 750 gtd 11+11+11 BUBBLED
5 3.5k gtd 11+10+10
6 3.5k gtd 11
7 1k gtd 1.1+1+2+2+1
-110.7 227.05 +117.6
1 AJo 20bb 3bet shove EP pro 2.4x open < QQ, knockout
2 AKs UTG+1 6bb 3bet, MP cold call, other fold. 7d3dAc 7s 8d , flop check,
check, turn check/villain ½ pot/hero 3x shove/villain call with Ad2d,
noted. Re-buy. ITM, KQo EP 14bb open shove<10bb AQo, cri... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 40 上篇提到，最后14人的样子，哥坐拥50个bb，且对桌子情况有个大致的了解，2个aggro
被哥玩残（只剩10到20bb，开始ABC），2个紧b被哥锁定，还有哥右手第二家（姑且称
其小黑哥吧），不久前用99接了哥左手第一家（欧洲大叔）的3bet shove，输给AA，自
己给cripple了，哥开始觉得离第一名有点近，唯一需要注意的是哥左手第一家（欧洲
大叔），他刚上桌的时候是个短筹，一手stop and go，逼走了哥A5o的小盲steal（特
此修改，应该是btn steal lol）。之
后，用AA从小黑哥身上double up。再之后大盲位KK，3bet aggro button steal，在
wet flop上，cbet/snap shove aggro的tp的snap raise，button 考虑了足足10分钟，
一个call，输到只剩2bb，不久出局。所以，现在欧洲大叔大概40个bb的样子（不得不
说，他确实run得跟哥一样好lol），作为桌上的2nd chips leader，风格solid，于是
来到了这把牌。
hand 1：
hero on sb with KdJ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 41 昨天NL 100 FR 竟然可以开四桌。 哥的赢率从3bb升到了6bb, BR 也从取钱后的3百到
了打四桌NL100 也能大刀阔斧donk around 的地步。 最近运气真心的好。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 42 3.5k gtd tourney
stack 35bb, position 3/11, AsJh ep clash with sb normal weak tight who was
2nd CL
hand history
hero （TAG image） EP 2bb open, sb flat, all fold
flop (5.xbb)2d4h7h, check,check
turn (5.xbb)9h, hero check, villain bet 2/3/hero tank call
river (12.xbb)Js, hero tank bet 6bb,villain instant shove(pot size), it is
obviously he selected checkbox_allin while hero is thinking.
因为他的这个pre decision，哥临时改变计划，call了，对手亮出Th8h，哥悔恨无比啊 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 43 100bb effective stack
villain solid tag 24/21/4 at button, open 2.6bb
sb flat, hero at bb with 66 flat.
flop 69Jr, check, check, villain cbet 5bb, sb fold, hero tank raise to 14bb
villain tank reraise to 30bb, hero tank reraise to 46bb, villain reraies to
62bb.
Hero? |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 44 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 周末一手牌 30+3 buyin, in the money, hero ~28bb position 7/16, villain(good tag) ~30bb,
position 5/16,
all fold to villain, who is small blind, raise to 2bb,
hero at big blind with TcJc, call
flop(6bb) , 8c9h3d, villain cbet ~4bb, hero call
turn(14bb), 9c, villain check, hero bet 7bb, villain call
river(28bb), Kh, villain bet 7bb, hero?
question 1, what would you do on the river?
question 2, what would you do on the turn, when villain checked to you? |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 45 ACR's rake is high due to jackpots. People are complaining about that on 2+2.
But NL50 is still beatable. I beat it at 6bb/100 over 20k hands before I
moved up. Not sure about lower stakes.
time |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 46 ACR's rake is high due to jackpots. People are complaining about that on 2+2.
But NL50 is still beatable. I beat it at 6bb/100 over 20k hands before I
moved up. Not sure about lower stakes.
time |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 47 A lot of pros play only 4 tables. Search "Yourdoom", for example.
Higher stakes rollers, on the other hand, plays only very few tables too.
Partially because less action available, partially because more thoughts
they need on each table.
I win 6bb/100, I don't have anywhere close to 100K per year...
NL200 is not as tough as you expected. As fcf said, everyone can beat NL200.
4bb/100 is not even close to a good win rate. Yourdoom beat NL1k at over
12bb/100.
time.
maybe |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 48
6bb/100 * 1M hands = 60k
it is already incredible. 小popo，go prove it first。
better than just upgrade to higher limit |
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a**o
发帖数: 730 | 49 两次都是在LAX赌场，从来没有见过这么loose的地方，$1-2 NL, $40-100 buyin. 桌子
上基本都是donk, 一个flush draw就allin, top pair low kicker就allin或者call到
死。桌子除我之外只有一个两个tight week player, 其他都是very loose. 基本没有
3bet, 如果有3bet就是shove. My image is tight.
88那把，我在CO, 我open 5bb, 我后面一个人20bb shove. 这个人非常loose, open
any suited cards。他曾经用Q8o赢了我的qq. 那把牌我raise 6bb, he called,
others fold. Flop 569r. I bet 10bb, he allin, I called. Turn 7, he won.
AQs那次，我在UTG, open 5bb, all others fold, CO一个loose player输光了所有的
chips, just rebought 20bb. Fold to h... 阅读全帖 |
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w****4
发帖数: 143 | 50 在牌桌上已经成功的建立了自己的形象：一般只玩大牌，而且有位置基本都会open，中
牌后基本都会raise。然后就发现经常是自己6BB的open也会跟进来好多人，估计都是觉
得我的range很窄，进来比较好对付。于是我就做了如下调整：
1，偶尔也大牌limp，这个次数比较少，效果只见到一次，就是我KK limp进去flop上出
了K，有个拿AK的主动推我all in，被我得逞
2，偶尔边缘牌和普通牌也像大牌一样open进去，进去后装成手拿大牌，这个没见到啥
效果，反而因为有时候碰上真正的大牌会损失一些
3，中牌后慢打，这个有正面效果也有负面的，曾经QQ进去flop出了Q我慢打，最后
river来了张K被AK推了all in爽到了；也曾经因为慢打让人中了卡顺被郁闷
这里想请教一下各位高手，针对我的牌桌形象，我这样的调整是对还是错？应该怎么利
用这个形象最有效？ |
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