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v**********e
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 也问一个叫牌
我也这么约定过,不过从来没遇到过拉出来的情况。
这手牌在同伴显示黒桃后应该算2NT中的最好牌,可以拉出来叫4NT。

4H
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - some hands in regional (4)
4NT.
a****s
发帖数: 524
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来自主题: Bridge版 - some hands in regional (4)
My point was, you may want to ask this question
*BEFORE* rushing into 4NT.
A slam requires at least "2 A + Q", but suppose that is the case,
what else could he have?
Therefore, this slam can't be a sane one.
i****e
发帖数: 642
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】致命首攻
This looks like a psychological guess. When LHO chooses to cue a major, he
should cue one with control (may be 2nd round control). But I saw some top
players cue the one without control, and I have no idea why they do it that
way.
RHO's 4NT may suggest control in spade, but maybe he has 3 or 4 spades, so
he can deduce his pd holds singleton or void spade.
So there is no clear answer based on above nonsense analysis.
The most reliable player on the table is your pd, so we should always trust
him ... 阅读全帖
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】致命首攻
Actually, I think N-S just misbid, instead of intentionally gamble. There is
no reason for them to feel that they have to swing. This is not barometer
game, they had no idea that they were behind by 4 imps. They could easily
lead by 4 imps instead, and only need to push the board. It is possible that
they had misunderstanding over the 5NT bid.
I don't think 4S is a clear overbid. South did have extra value, if 3C only
showed limit+ hand. He didn't know north had void in diamonds. From his
perspe... 阅读全帖
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】致命首攻
Since 3C cuebid is not game-forcing, West's 4C bid creates annoying problems
. It deprives an entire level of bidding from N-S. Even experts cannot agree
what should 4D from North show. Does it show slam interest, or a secondary
suit (so that partner knows what to do if opponents bid higher), or maybe it
is "last train" (which doesn't even promise diamond control)? We don't know
N-S agreement here, so we are all just speculating here.
But I think South does have enough to bid beyond 4H. Even if ... 阅读全帖
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - NABC+ Swiss Team (3)
If 3NT is "non-serious", then 4C is "serious cuebid". I think I'd bid 4NT
now.
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Another bidding problem
It should not be a cuebid. If you have diamond fit, you should have bid 2S (
that IS a cuebid) earlier, instead of double. If you have general value but
not able to double 4H, you can bid 4NT here.
If bidding is below 3NT, you might bid 3S (as cuebid) to search for 3NT. But
here bidding is at 4-level, so I cannot think of a need for cuebid.
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【BBO实例】满贯防守
最近积累了一些BBO上看到的牌例。很多时候桌上四个人的self-rating都是“专家”。
虽说这种段位都只是自封的,但起码这些人都自认为比较会玩,而其中的一些错误或问
题在BBO上较为常见,我想也是有一定普遍意义的。拿出来分享一下,希望大家能在娱
乐中得到提高。
你坐东,手持:K6 / AKT93 / QJT9 / 52
北家发牌并开叫,过程如下:
N E S W
1C 1H 1S 3H
P P 4H P
4S P 4NT P
5H X 6S P
P X AP
叫牌其实存在着各种问题,不过现在先讨论防守。同伴首攻H5,明手摊下:
AT4
QJ
643
AJT98
你出HK,满以为定约至少宕一。不料庄家将吃了这一墩,然后手里出SQ,同伴跟了S3,
明手放小。你打算怎样防守?
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【BBO实例】满贯防守
最近积累了一些BBO上看到的牌例。很多时候桌上四个人的self-rating都是“专家”。
虽说这种段位都只是自封的,但起码这些人都自认为比较会玩,而其中的一些错误或问
题在BBO上较为常见,我想也是有一定普遍意义的。拿出来分享一下,希望大家能在娱
乐中得到提高。
你坐东,手持:K6 / AKT93 / QJT9 / 52
IMP,东西有局。北家发牌并开叫,过程如下:
N E S W
1C 1H 1S 3H
P P 4H P
4S P 4NT P
5H X 6S P
P X AP
叫牌其实存在着各种问题,不过现在先讨论防守。同伴首攻H5,明手摊下:
AT4
QJ
643
AJT98
你出HK,满以为定约至少宕一。不料庄家将吃了这一墩,然后手里出SQ,同伴跟了S3,
明手放小。你打算怎样防守?
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【BBO实例】满贯防守
其实在有对无的局况下,我觉得西家的3H叫得还是不错的。在这种局况下,叫4H经常是
使对方没有选择只能加倍,而西家牌型较为平均,4HX未必是个好的牺牲。3H剥夺了对
方较大的空间,已为其信息交流制造了足够的障碍。
作为南家,首先4NT是个糟糕的叫品,无法判断同伴的关键张是否长在红心上面。鉴于
叫牌空间的问题,要把牌完全叫清楚已经不太可能,我会考虑直接叫5NT,让同伴在梅
花和黑桃中选。我想这个叫品基本上应该暗示五张黑桃及四张梅花。5H也是一个可选的
叫品,但可能会被当成对于黑桃的排除性关键张问叫,容易产生歧义。
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - BBO实例---满贯叫牌
Yes, 4D probably best played as fit, possibly only KQx if responder holds a
long solid spade suit. Afterwards 4NT should be 6-keycard asking.
i****e
发帖数: 642
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来自主题: Bridge版 - BBO实例---满贯叫牌
5NT is asking where are the Qs. Why 4NT is CRASH Q, not where are the Ks?
c***c
发帖数: 6234
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来自主题: Bridge版 - I was kicked out from BBO
很好的例子。
4nt什么意思?
当然同伴不能pass是肯定的。但同伴叫了5C你打算叫5H?
开交1C红桃至少两张,很可能是3张,同伴两张怎么办?
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每月一题】黑桃缺门
3H是合理的。假设你叫3H,同伴接着叫了4C。听着像是扣叫,虽然不排除黑桃/梅花两
色套的可能性。你继续叫4D,不管同伴是哪种牌,4D都不会太错。同伴现在4NT,这个
可以印证前面的4C是同意红心为将牌的扣叫。你答叫5NT,表示两个关键张外带一缺门
。最终定约停在6H。
左手方首攻D2(长三/五首攻),明手摊牌:
AT765
87
AT4
AJ5
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - your bid
If you had a hand that you intended to invite in hearts (plan to bid 1S then
3H), you can bid 4H after 3D. This is a value-showing bid.
The main point is, after jump-shift (which consumes space), you need a
waiting bid like 3H. It is ambiguous, but it makes other bids more defined.
1H-1S-3D, you have:
3S = natural, often 6+ or 5 good ones
3NT = soft value on S and C
4C = cuebid for diamonds
4D = diamond raise but not suitable for 4C cuebid
4H = limit raise in hearts
4NT = RKC in hearts (to RKC i... 阅读全帖
p***r
发帖数: 20570
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Slam bidding
You can just cubbid 4C and hope to hear 4D from partner.
After Partner's 4D, you should just RKC with 4S. After 4NT, which shows 1 KC
, a normal treatment is to bid 5S to ask for side suit kings. If you happen
to have some better gadgets here, you should bid 5NT to show SQ and all KC
and HQ. 5NT also denies DQ (because you have skipped 5D). Later, partner can
bid 6C to show CK, 6D to show DQ, blabla...
If partner just bids 4H over 4C, you can also try 4S as RKC probably.
Chances for 7H(7NT) isn'... 阅读全帖
i****e
发帖数: 642
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Slam bidding
That sounds a good approach, with the help of some gadgets.
The design after RKC doesn't sound very normal to me in terms of captainship
. The responder here is captain, but after RKC, he starts to describe his
holding, rather than keeps asking.
1H 1S
2D 3H
3S 4C
4D 4S
4NT ?
5C ask HQ
5H sign off
5D/5NT show D/S queen according to the design at this sequence. Could it be
designed as asking rather than showing? Apparently, this will also change
the meaning of 5S.

knows
standard
p***r
发帖数: 20570
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Slam bidding
Often you just can't really be the captain after the first round of RKC,
which is especially true in grand slam decisions. In many situations, grand
slams are bid by collaborations. So it's more like a covalent bonding,
instead of ionic bonding. Everybody need to contribute some information to
reach the final decision. Captain types of bidding actually happens less
frequently in bidding. It is good in some shapely two suiters, where side
suit honors or shortness are important. For example, suppo... 阅读全帖
p***r
发帖数: 20570
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Slam bidding
You can just cubbid 4C and hope to hear 4D from partner.
After Partner's 4D, you should just RKC with 4S. After 4NT, which shows 1 KC
, a normal treatment is to bid 5S to ask for side suit kings. If you happen
to have some better gadgets here, you should bid 5NT to show SQ and all KC
and HQ. 5NT also denies DQ (because you have skipped 5D). Later, partner can
bid 6C to show CK, 6D to show DQ, blabla...
If partner just bids 4H over 4C, you can also try 4S as RKC probably.
Chances for 7H(7NT) isn'... 阅读全帖
i****e
发帖数: 642
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Slam bidding
That sounds a good approach, with the help of some gadgets.
The design after RKC doesn't sound very normal to me in terms of captainship
. The responder here is captain, but after RKC, he starts to describe his
holding, rather than keeps asking.
1H 1S
2D 3H
3S 4C
4D 4S
4NT ?
5C ask HQ
5H sign off
5D/5NT show D/S queen according to the design at this sequence. Could it be
designed as asking rather than showing? Apparently, this will also change
the meaning of 5S.

knows
standard
p***r
发帖数: 20570
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Slam bidding
Often you just can't really be the captain after the first round of RKC,
which is especially true in grand slam decisions. In many situations, grand
slams are bid by collaborations. So it's more like a covalent bonding,
instead of ionic bonding. Everybody need to contribute some information to
reach the final decision. Captain types of bidding actually happens less
frequently in bidding. It is good in some shapely two suiters, where side
suit honors or shortness are important. For example, suppo... 阅读全帖
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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双人公开赛,无对有,你方叫到一个貌似不错的满贯,两手牌如下:
AKJ43
T9
Q
KT943
T2
AKQJ43
853
AJ
叫牌其实很平淡:
S W N E
1H P 1S P
3H P 4NT P
5D* P 6H AP
5D = 0 或 3 关键张
西家首拔DK,续攻方块,你接下去怎么打?
i****e
发帖数: 642
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Funny hand
How will you bid the hand in your system?
At one table, west opened 1NT (normal upgrade). East transferred to H, then
asked key cards, and bid 6H.
North was on lead, holding:
A765
xxx
x
Jxxxx
He led SA, and continued S, with south following 2 and T!
Declarer tried to cash DAK, and got ruffed.
At the other table, west opened 1D:
1D 1H
1S 2C
2D 3H
4C 4NT
5H 6H
South led normal, but unlucky, SJ. North won SA, and returned S. Declarer
took some precaution by cashing HK. Then two rounds of D, go... 阅读全帖
b***y
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来自主题: Bridge版 - Funny hand
I routinely open 1NT with good 14, but on this hand I would open 1D, since
this hand is more suit-oriented, and I have 4 spades. Bidding would go: 1D-
1H-1S-2C-2D-2H-3H-3S-3NT-4H
2C is normal 4th suit gf, 2H tends to show 6+ hearts, 3NT is "non-serious"
showing a hand that doesn't have slam interest on its own but willing to
cooperate if partner does. Next bid from East can be controversial. Slam has
decent chance if West has SA/HA/DK/CK, but 5-level can go down with just DK
replaced by DQ and s... 阅读全帖
b***y
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】渺茫的满贯
IMP,有对无。你拿到:KT98632 / Q83 / 6 / A2
左手家PASS,同伴开叫1H,右手争叫2NT,你们最后叫进6S。完整叫牌过程如下:
W N E S
P 1H 2NT 3S
4C 4NT 5C 5S
P 6S AP
2NT=双低花,至少5-5
5S=两个关键张及SQ(因为你有7张黑桃且同伴有配合,所以不担心SQ)
首攻CJ,你的明暗两手牌为:
AQ74
A97542
K2
9
KT98632
Q83
6
A2
同伴似乎有些冒叫。貌似你在方块和红心上各有一个必失墩。当然你表面上还得作出信
心满满的样子,谢过同伴之后,你如何打?
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】渺茫的满贯
对方点力范围并不清楚,但有一条线索是,左手家叫了4C。如果右手是0355,那么左手
方的牌型就是2155,可能持DA的话更倾向于选择4D而不是4C(如果我拿着这个牌型,无
对有,会考虑直接4NT加深阻击,不过这个是题外话了)。总体来说,右手方持DA的机
会较大。
你明明不止会飞牌,挤牌也在行啊。打得不错赞一个。
实战庄家从明手出一张小方块,其实也是一条思路,但需要右手只有DA没有DQ,而且还
不一定会打错。挤牌的打法,基本上只需要右手持DA即可(加上左手单张HK作为先决条
件)。
g****o
发帖数: 1284
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 第四十二届百慕大杯
胡叫4NT是怎么想的,能否分析一下?我觉得我肯定是不会叫的,不太符合概率吧,南
是2NT强均型牌啊。

40IMP
g****o
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 第四十二届百慕大杯
南开叫2NT(估计是20-21均型?),西pass,北4H转移,东拿着HA10XXX DQXXX C10XXX
做首攻指示加倍,南4S。西和北都pass,然后东4NT,南pass,西示选5C,北pass,东
pass,南加倍后全pass。最后-1400。
西家的牌是SJ10XX HXXX DJXX CQJX
忘了说局况:南北有局
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 5NT问K
首先取决于4NT是简单黑木还是RKC。
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 5NT问K
首先取决于4NT是简单黑木还是RKC。
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】阻击叫牌
IMP无对有,你做庄6H,叫牌过程:
W N E S
2S X P 3H
P 4NT P 5H
P 6H AP
2S = 6-10点,6张黑桃
3H = 8-11点,4+红心
5H = 两个关键张,缺HQ
A95
KQ73
AKQ
KQ6
873
AT86
J8
A974
西家首攻SK,你明手出SA,东家跟出S2。接下去怎么打?
b***y
发帖数: 2804
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】又见满贯
IMP无对有,右手方抢先开叫2H,但最后你们叫进6S。
E S W N
2H 4S P 4NT
P 5S P 6S
西家首攻H8:
52
AT632
A764
AK
AKQJ83
i****e
发帖数: 642
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 【每周一题】红心满贯
Team IMP, both white. Star players.
LHO Partner RHO You
P 2NT P 4D
X P P 4NT
P 5D P 6H
5D = 3 keys
AQ76
A5
Q63
AKJ6
8
QJT98732
A52
9
LHO lead SJ (not denying SK). How to maximize the chance?
v**********e
发帖数: 1295
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 实战叫牌(3)
agree with the strategy.
For MP, 4S should be ave+.
For IMP, the difficulty is that both hands are not limited from PD's point
of view. So cue bid seems mandatory. Possible sequence could be 4C-4D-4H-4NT
.... I tend to accept 6S if key card is ok. However, it may not be a good
slam (50%).
v**********e
发帖数: 1295
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来自主题: Bridge版 - 实战叫牌(3)
agree with the strategy.
For MP, 4S should be ave+.
For IMP, the difficulty is that both hands are not limited from PD's point
of view. So cue bid seems mandatory. Possible sequence could be 4C-4D-4H-4NT
.... I tend to accept 6S if key card is ok. However, it may not be a good
slam (50%).
l*r
发帖数: 79569
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4nt好了
t*****g
发帖数: 3010
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来自主题: LoveNLust版 - 跨越台海的青涩(二)
说我和她之间不是网恋可能是有根据的,记得有一次她问我有否gf,我告诉她有,而且
交往很深,只是远隔千里无法相见,空凭鸿雁传情(我gf她没有电脑)以慰相思。可是
在她看来,似乎距离不是问题,她说要是真的相爱,我应该不顾一切的去gf的那个城市
,或者我gf来北京。我告诉她我们做不到,我不会放弃北京的发展机会去那个城市,她
要来北京,也不现实,户口、工作、孩子等等现实问题不那么好解决。这些问题现在也
许很多外地人都不了解,更何况她,比如想要一个北京户口至少要花5万人民币,其他
的问题都要花钱,等我攒够了钱,我gf都老了。我这样说了一大通,那边的她也不知道
懂了没有,半天没有回话。
"hi, hi!"
"line off again?"
我叫她。
"1RMB=4NT, right?"
当时新台币贬值,大约就是这个价。
"sure"我回答
"50000RMB=200000NT, I think I can give u 250000NT for u wedding"
我傻了
"I have saved about 500000 in HUI, I can share a half with u.
D*V
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我觉得你有点牛角尖了.
关于非标准的页面,当微软的技术支持或者来自媒体的声音告诉庞大的windows用户
群,这些页面你只能用IE(而且IE是随OS带的,NS当时还要收费),作为庞大windows用户的
一员,你会选择什么?就算你已经买了NS,下次还会买么?会告诉自己的朋友买NS么? 况且
然后不知出于什么原因当越来越多的使用某些tricks的网站明确写明本站请用IE浏览,
作为visitor,你会选择哪个浏览器?
这些都是赤裸裸曾经存在的事实,算是正常竞争么?呵呵.当欧盟质疑"中国政府对某
些产业给予补贴"从而使其具有价格竞争优势的时候,MS在IE投入那么高,却不对IE单独
收取费用,这两个难道没有可比性么?

微软的捆绑不是关键,关键在于捆绑使其在竞争中不公平的获利. 你看Ultraedit等
编辑器厂商怎么不控诉notepad? 4NT怎么不控诉command? 游戏厂商怎么不控诉纸牌扫
雷? Mathworks为什么不控诉calc? 如果单纯是捆绑的问题,为什么欧盟要求其开放源代
码并调查其技术开放程度? WMP欧版的强制拿下仅仅是在法律层面对其垄
m*********D
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我是snowyday说的老式酶切连接的老疙瘩了。你这个3KB应该是小菜一碟。上面有人提
到的Q5不错。那个GC-melt对付genomic DNA很好,唯一提醒的是primer(match的部分
)长一点,我一般25-28nt. 在加GC-melt的情况下,annealing的温度适当比用普通Taq
低点,3-5度。
genomc DNA可以用Qiagen的blood and tissue kit提取.一般12-well plate,一个well
就够用20-50次PCR了。
我一般把要PCR的fragment在网上扫描一下酶切位点,重点在don't cut和single cut
list。3kb应该很容易找到合适的位点。然后看自己的vector找合适的酶,加到pcr
primer的5’end。一般情况下,我会在酶点外再加4 nt,很多酶是不能切直接裸露在5’
外的位点的。所以,你的primer该是:4nt-酶点-25ntmatching seq. 3kb,很多情况下
可以用两个不同的酶来克隆。Sal I是老鼠和人genome里少见的酶位点,我几乎每次都
能用上。其他的看运气,识别8 ... 阅读全帖
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4nt blackwood
3d
only 12 cards?
4c
4c
3h
3nt
pass
1nt
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1. 4h 0
2. 4c 10
3. 4c 7
4. 3d 3
5. 3nt 4
6. 4c 2
7. 4nt 10
8. 2nt 9
totle 45/80, ft, 发现不会算分了.
根本看不懂有些叫牌, 什么是IMP体制?
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