w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 1 应该确认guangyao li被抓了。我拿到vns id后会尽快跟踪update。
今天从U.S. Department of Justice - VNS收到这样一封信：
August 11, 2014
U.S. Department of Justice
USAO - Northern District of Ohio
400 United States Court House
801 West Superior Avenue
Cleveland, OH 44113-1852
Phone: (855) 216-8127
Fax: (216) 685-2378
Re: United States v. Defendant(s) Guangyao Li
Case Number 2012R00834 and Court Docket Number 14-CR-00224
Dear XXXX:
This notice is provided by the United States Department of Justice Victim
Notification System. I am contacting you because you were identified by law
enforcement as a victim during the investigation of the above criminal case. | d*******a
发帖数: 1931 | | r******d
发帖数: 4666 | | w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 4 收的email 我不太懂这是说他被抓要上挺了么
【在 r******d 的大作中提到】
: 邮局送信这么快，11号的信今天就收到了
| b**********y
发帖数: 2718 | | w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 6 也就是guangyao li已经被抓了？
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: 要开庭了吧
| r****9
发帖数: 4961 | 7 Good news for today. Justice needs to be served. | w*********p
发帖数: 7230 | | w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 9 先让我确定一下 这是通知我他要上法庭了么？
【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: Good news for today. Justice needs to be served.
| b**********y
发帖数: 2718 | 10 我觉得是跟你确认你的受害人地位吧。没提传你上庭。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 先让我确定一下 这是通知我他要上法庭了么？
| | | f****g
发帖数: 23666 | 11 同感。就是正式立案吧。
【在 b**********y 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得是跟你确认你的受害人地位吧。没提传你上庭。
| r****9
发帖数: 4961 | 12 看起来是被起诉了。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 先让我确定一下 这是通知我他要上法庭了么？
| w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 13 也就是没有被抓么？仅仅是立案了么？ 我报案的那个FBI80天以前就说了立案了，才通
知我。郁闷。
【在 f****g 的大作中提到】
: 同感。就是正式立案吧。
| d**********r
发帖数: 24123 | | O****e
发帖数: 5061 | 15 arrested, and case created.
he is in custody now. | i**j
发帖数: 1103 | | w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 17 我刚才给那里打了电话，因为我还没有收到邮寄letter的通知，所以我没有正式的VNS
id，没法确认guangyao li的status。但是那个接电话的说，如果我收到email通知了，
说明正常情况下已经被正式拘留了，会很快上庭的。多谢，和你说的差不多。
【在 O****e 的大作中提到】
: arrested, and case created.
: he is in custody now.
| b*******g
发帖数: 6008 | | f****g
发帖数: 4248 | | D********2
发帖数: 2153 | 20 那你可以献出你的屁眼代替他被插
【在 w*********p 的大作中提到】
: 又一个神一样的男人要被插屁眼了，我很桑心
| | | K*C
发帖数: 2825 | 21 6i应当没剩多少钱做律师费吧.应当传檄MITBBS和huaren，让苦主去报告损失了。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我刚才给那里打了电话，因为我还没有收到邮寄letter的通知，所以我没有正式的VNS
: id，没法确认guangyao li的status。但是那个接电话的说，如果我收到email通知了，
: 说明正常情况下已经被正式拘留了，会很快上庭的。多谢，和你说的差不多。
| d**j
发帖数: 23329 | 22 苦主需要请律师吗？
【在 K*C 的大作中提到】
: 6i应当没剩多少钱做律师费吧.应当传檄MITBBS和huaren，让苦主去报告损失了。
| b*******g
发帖数: 6008 | 23
这个是司法部代表美国政府起诉，苦主只是证人吧
【在 d**j 的大作中提到】
: 苦主需要请律师吗？
| M****o
发帖数: 13571 | | a*********k
发帖数: 1467 | | w****9
发帖数: 6338 | | S********t
发帖数: 4402 | 27 终于被抓了？多行不义必自毙。现在没被毙，只是未到被毙时。
希望那些做坏事的都引以为戒。欠钱的早还。欠货的早赔。等进了局子里就晚了。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 应该确认guangyao li被抓了。我拿到vns id后会尽快跟踪update。
: 今天从U.S. Department of Justice - VNS收到这样一封信：
: August 11, 2014
: U.S. Department of Justice
: USAO - Northern District of Ohio
: 400 United States Court House
: 801 West Superior Avenue
: Cleveland, OH 44113-1852
: Phone: (855) 216-8127
: Fax: (216) 685-2378
| f****g
发帖数: 4248 | | M****e
发帖数: 3715 | 29 6i刚在华人开辟新的根据地不久就栽了
还是华人大妈们厉害... | a***e
发帖数: 38850 | 30 为啥是华人大妈的功劳？
【在 M****e 的大作中提到】
: 6i刚在华人开辟新的根据地不久就栽了
: 还是华人大妈们厉害...
| | | l***q
发帖数: 6976 | | m****s
发帖数: 1945 | 32 博士在二手版发包子
【在 M****o 的大作中提到】
: 好消息！有人发包子吗？等
| w*****c
发帖数: 7276 | | j***i
发帖数: 2203 | 34 用免费的PUBLIC DEFENDER
【在 K*C 的大作中提到】
: 6i应当没剩多少钱做律师费吧.应当传檄MITBBS和huaren，让苦主去报告损失了。
| e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 35 我也email收到通知了，应该是真的,克利夫兰的黑哥们有福了，不过我估计李光耀狠娘
，估计会enjoy的。
August 11, 2014 U.S. Department of Justice
USAO - Northern District of Ohio
400 United States Court House
801 West Superior Avenue
Cleveland, OH 44113-1852
Phone: (855) 216-8127
Fax: (216) 685-2378
Re: United States v. Defendant(s) Guangyao Li
Case Number 2012R00834 and Court Docket Number 14-CR-00224
Dear euclid2003:
This notice is provided by the United States Department of Justice Victim
Notification System. I am contacting you because you were identified by law
enforcement as a victim during the investigation of the above criminal case.
There is new information regarding the above referenced matter that can be
viewed by accessing the VNS Web page at https://www.notify.usdoj.gov and
registering with VNS. Registering with VNS provides the ability to access
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If you need assistance with this process, please contact the VNS Help Desk
at (866) 625-1631.
Sincerely,
Darla Pendergrass
Victim Witness Specialist
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 应该确认guangyao li被抓了。我拿到vns id后会尽快跟踪update。
: 今天从U.S. Department of Justice - VNS收到这样一封信：
: August 11, 2014
: U.S. Department of Justice
: USAO - Northern District of Ohio
: 400 United States Court House
: 801 West Superior Avenue
: Cleveland, OH 44113-1852
: Phone: (855) 216-8127
: Fax: (216) 685-2378
| e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 36 正义不会不到，只是会迟到而已。
【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: Good news for today. Justice needs to be served.
| p*****t
发帖数: 3693 | 37 看来6i不用坐太久的牢，根据这个网页里说的"Thus, a mail fraud scheme involving
an intended loss of $250,000 will have an offense level of sixteen (16)—
six (6) for the base offense, eight (8) for the intended loss (taken from
USSG § 2F1.1(b)(1)’s loss table), and two (2) for more than minimal
planning. "
http://www.dcbabrief.org/vol90597art6.html
假设6i这几年骗的数跟这个差不多，所以是offense level 16，根据这个表会判21到27
个月，表现良好的话估计蹲个一年半载就出来了：
http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ | a*********k
发帖数: 1467 | 38 不用太久，进去就行，不用多久就被老黑玩死了。
involving
27
【在 p*****t 的大作中提到】
: 看来6i不用坐太久的牢，根据这个网页里说的"Thus, a mail fraud scheme involving
: an intended loss of $250,000 will have an offense level of sixteen (16)—
: six (6) for the base offense, eight (8) for the intended loss (taken from
: USSG § 2F1.1(b)(1)’s loss table), and two (2) for more than minimal
: planning. "
: http://www.dcbabrief.org/vol90597art6.html
: 假设6i这几年骗的数跟这个差不多，所以是offense level 16，根据这个表会判21到27
: 个月，表现良好的话估计蹲个一年半载就出来了：
: http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/
| c*******g
发帖数: 1996 | 39 但是他有了坐牢记录之后，且没有身份的话，出狱后直接被送回国了吧 | p*****t
发帖数: 3693 | 40 应该是：
"Criminal aliens' first contact with the INS now usually comes while they
are incarcerated in a state prison. Through an enhanced Institutional
Hearing Program (IHP), states cooperate with the INS to commence deportation
proceedings for foreign-born inmates before they get out of prison... As
the Institutional Hearing Program becomes more effective, state prison
systems increasingly are releasing foreign-born offenders directly to the
custody of the INS. This process ensures that many more criminal aliens are
removed from the country. It also might motivate states to release inmates
who would otherwise remain incarcerated in exchange for immediate
deportation."
【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: 但是他有了坐牢记录之后，且没有身份的话，出狱后直接被送回国了吧
| | | m****c
发帖数: 1181 | 41 21个月还短啊？6i都能生两窝小天使了
involving
27
【在 p*****t 的大作中提到】
: 看来6i不用坐太久的牢，根据这个网页里说的"Thus, a mail fraud scheme involving
: an intended loss of $250,000 will have an offense level of sixteen (16)—
: six (6) for the base offense, eight (8) for the intended loss (taken from
: USSG § 2F1.1(b)(1)’s loss table), and two (2) for more than minimal
: planning. "
: http://www.dcbabrief.org/vol90597art6.html
: 假设6i这几年骗的数跟这个差不多，所以是offense level 16，根据这个表会判21到27
: 个月，表现良好的话估计蹲个一年半载就出来了：
: http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/
| m****c
发帖数: 1181 | 42 你的意思是说，赶紧找媒体曝光，让他回国也无法行骗？这个是好主意，要想个醒目的
标题
【在 c*******g 的大作中提到】
: 但是他有了坐牢记录之后，且没有身份的话，出狱后直接被送回国了吧
| w*****e
发帖数: 1003 | 43 如何报道？我可以提供很多信息，让他没机会再骗人。
【在 m****c 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是说，赶紧找媒体曝光，让他回国也无法行骗？这个是好主意，要想个醒目的
: 标题
| t***t
发帖数: 6066 | | m****c
发帖数: 1181 | 45 你傻吧，他不出名，就是放弃海外数十万美金的高薪，爆笑祖国了，哪怕那几十万美金
是骗的啊
【在 t***t 的大作中提到】
: 让媒体报道的话反而让他出名了。
| b*******g
发帖数: 6008 | 46 这个要看charge哪些罪名，不是光金额的问题。 | m****s
发帖数: 1945 | 47 被捕无疑, 检察官已经起诉。
Just googled "Criminal Charges: How Cases Get Started"
How does a criminal case get started? Usually with a police arrest report.
The prosecutor then decides what criminal charges to file, if any. The case
can then go to a grand jury for a criminal indictment or to a preliminary
hearing where a judge decides if there is enough evidence to proceed. Here's
how this all works.
Arrest Reports and Criminal Charges
After an arrest, the arrest report is sent to a prosecutor, whose job it is
to initiate and prosecute criminal cases. Arrest reports summarize the
events leading up to arrests and provide numerous other details, such as
dates, time, location, and weather conditions of the crime, and witnesses'
names and addresses, if that information is available.
The prosecutor will either:
decide that the case should be charged (as a felony or a misdemeanor), and
file a complaint with the trial court
decide that the case should be charged as a felony and bring evidence before
citizens serving as grand jurors, who will decide what charges, if any, to
file, or
decide that the matter should not be pursued.
Prosecutors can file charges on all crimes for which the police arrested a
suspect. Or, they can file charges that are more or less severe than the
charges leveled by the police. (To learn more about the difference between
felonies and misdemeanors, see Criminal Procedure FAQ.)
Charges Must Be Filed Quickly
For suspects who are in custody, speedy trial laws typically require
prosecutors to file charges, if at all, within 72 hours of arrest. Some
jurisdictions require prosecutors to charge a suspect even sooner. For
example, California requires that charges be filed within 48 hours.
However, prosecutors' initial charges are subject to change. For example, a
prosecutor may not make a final decision on what charges to file until after
a preliminary hearing, which may take place more than a month after arrest.
How a Prosecutor Decides Whether to File Charges
A prosecutor's decision to file charges may be influenced by factors beyond
the specific facts of the incident described in the police report.
Policies on certain crimes. Some prosecution offices adopt policies on
certain types of crimes, often in response to community pressure, and these
policies may dictate the prosecutor's approach in any given case. For
example, an office may decide that arrests for driving under the influence
of drugs or alcohol will always be taken to trial and not "plea bargained"
down to a lesser offense.
Political ambition. Prosecutors may also be influenced by their own
political ambitions. Most prosecutors are elected officials, and many of
them view their position as a stepping-stone to higher office. Their
decisions on charges are often affected by public opinion or important
support groups. For example, a prosecutor may file charges on every
shoplifting case, no matter how weak, to curry favor with local store owners
who want to get the word out that shoplifters will be prosecuted.
What justice requires. Finally, some decisions are influenced by the
prosecutor's sense of what justice requires in the case before her.
Prosecutors are supposed to both enforce the law and "do justice." Doing
justice means that a prosecutor occasionally decides not to prosecute a case
(or files less severe charges) because the interests of justice require it,
even if the facts of the case might support a conviction. For example, if
an otherwise law-abiding person makes a one-time, foolish mistake, a
prosecutor may decide that it would not serve any purpose to spend time and
money prosecuting this person, especially when the chances that the person
will re-offend are nil.
The Role of a Grand Jury
If a felony is involved, prosecutors sometimes leave it to grand juries to
decide whether charges should be filed. Grand juries are similar to regular
trial juries (called "petit juries") in that they are made up of randomly
selected individuals. The grand jurors listen to evidence and decide whether
charges should be brought against an individual (that is, they decide
whether to "indict" someone).
However, unlike petit juries, which only sit on one case, grand juries
involve a time commitment that typically lasts between 6 and 18 months. The
grand jurors may address many cases in the course of their service. In
addition, these crucial differences exist:
Petit jurors decide whether defendants are guilty. Grand juries decide
whether there is enough evidence to warrant a trial.
Grand juries meet in secret proceedings. Petit juries serve during public
trials.
Grand juries have 15-23 people. By contrast, a petit jury usually consists
of between 6 and 12 people.
Petit juries generally have to be unanimous to convict a defendant. Grand
juries need not be unanimous to indict. In the federal system, for example,
an indictment may be returned if 12 or more jurors agree to indict.
How a Grand Jury Works
When a prosecutor brings a case to a grand jury, he presents the jurors with
a "bill" (the charges) and introduces evidence -- usually the minimum
necessary, in the prosecutor's opinion -- to secure an indictment. The
proceedings are secret; it is standard practice to call witnesses to testify
against the suspect without the suspect or the suspect's lawyer present.
Indicted suspects can sometimes later obtain transcripts of grand jury
proceedings, however -- and this is a big reason why prosecutors like to
keep the evidence to the minimum.
Although the prosecutor can also call the suspect as a witness, this is not
typically done. When suspects are called, they often refuse to testify by
invoking their privilege against self-incrimination under the Fifth
Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. (For more on this right and other rights
of the defendant during trial, see Nolo's article Defendant's Rights During
a Court Trial: The Bill of Rights.)
If the grand jury decides to indict, it returns what is called a "true bill"
. If not, the grand jury returns a "no-bill". But even if the grand jury
returns a no-bill, the prosecutor may eventually file charges against a
suspect. Prosecutors can return to the same grand jury with more evidence,
present the same evidence to a second grand jury, or (in jurisdictions that
give prosecutors a choice) bypass the grand jury altogether and file a
criminal complaint.
Preliminary Hearings
If the prosecutor decides to file a complaint rather than present the case
to a grand jury, and the case is a felony, the defendant is entitled to a
preliminary hearing at which the prosecutor must show that the state has
enough evidence of the crime to warrant a trial.
However, if the case proceeds by grand jury indictment, no preliminary
hearing need be held. For this reason, many prosecutors choose the grand
jury indictment process because they don't have to reveal as much evidence
before the trial.
For information on criminal cases from start to finish, get The Criminal Law
Handbook: Know Your Rights, Survive the System, by Paul Bergman and Sara
Berman (Nolo). If you need a lawyer, check out Nolo's trusted Lawyer
Directory, to find a criminal defense attorney in your area.
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 应该确认guangyao li被抓了。我拿到vns id后会尽快跟踪update。
: 今天从U.S. Department of Justice - VNS收到这样一封信：
: August 11, 2014
: U.S. Department of Justice
: USAO - Northern District of Ohio
: 400 United States Court House
: 801 West Superior Avenue
: Cleveland, OH 44113-1852
: Phone: (855) 216-8127
: Fax: (216) 685-2378
| m****s
发帖数: 1945 | 48 俺估算：
Levels: 16-26
Sentence: minimum 21-27 months, maximum 63-78 months
Itemized below
Base 6, if convicted
b(1) 8-12, depending on the loss
b(2) 2-4, depending on the number of victims
b(6) 2, depending on prosecutor
b(17) 2, depending on prosecutor
www.ussc.gov/guidelines-manual/2013/2013-2b11
B1.1. Larceny, Embezzlement, and Other Forms of Theft; Offenses Involv
ing Stolen Property; Property Damage or Destruction; Fraud and Deceit; Forge
ry; Offenses Involving Altered or Counterfeit Instruments Other than Counter
feit Bearer Obligations of the United States
(a) Base Offense Level:
(1) 7, if (A) the defendant was convicted of an offense referenced to
this guideline; and (B) that offense of conviction has a statutory maximum t
erm of imprisonment of 20 years or more; or
(2) 6, otherwise.
(b) Specific Offense Characteristics
(1) If the loss exceeded $5,000, increase the offense level as follows
Loss (Apply the Greatest) Increase in Level
(A) $5,000 or less no increase
(B) More than $5,000 add 2
(C) More than $10,000 add 4
(D) More than $30,000 add 6
(E) More than $70,000 add 8
(F) More than $120,000 add 10
(G) More than $200,000 add 12
(H) More than $400,000 add 14
(I) More than $1,000,000 add 16
(J) More than $2,500,000 add 18
(K) More than $7,000,000 add 20
(L) More than $20,000,000 add 22
(M) More than $50,000,000 add 24
(N) More than $100,000,000 add 26
(O) More than $200,000,000 add 28
(P) More than $400,000,000 add 30.
(2) (Apply the greatest) If the offensebr />
(A) (i) involved 10 or more victims; or (ii) was committed through mas
s-marketing, increase by 2 levels;
(B) involved 50 or more victims, increase by 4 levels; or
(C) involved 250 or more victims, increase by 6 levels.
(6) If (A) the defendant was convicted of an offense under 18 U.S.C.
1037; and (B) the offense involved obtaining electronic mail addresses throu
gh improper means, increase by 2 levels.
(17) If (A) the defendant was convicted of an offense under 18 U.S.C.
1030, and the offense involved an intent to obtain personal information, or
(B) the offense involved the unauthorized public dissemination of personal i
nformation, increase by 2 levels.
law
case. | c*******g
发帖数: 1996 | 49 只要他滚回国去就行了，他那些伎俩在国内骗，估计会被人砍死
【在 m****c 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是说，赶紧找媒体曝光，让他回国也无法行骗？这个是好主意，要想个醒目的
: 标题
| t***t
发帖数: 6066 | 50 你没看中国那么多人往身上抹粪来出名？出名之后就算是臭名也是发大财啊
【在 m****c 的大作中提到】
: 你傻吧，他不出名，就是放弃海外数十万美金的高薪，爆笑祖国了，哪怕那几十万美金
: 是骗的啊
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