m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 we always face case like below.
KA in pocket, one guy raises bf you, and you 3 bets him, he cold calls.
flop 10d 5d 3s sth. like this, he checked to you, you bet pot , say 80$, he
called.
turn is 8 h , should you follow up bluff, or just check .
if river is another unrelated card say, 4s, he checked to you again , will
you keep bluffing/??
if your opponent is
1. loose aggressive player
2. tight conservetive player
3. loose passive player
4. tight aggressive player. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 i guess the anwser depends on:
1) your read of his fear on each card/board (the more passive/weak he is,
the high percentage of this factor);
2) your acting;
3) your and his stacks/bankrolls. to bluff so aggressviely and to be caught once
by somebody would cost a whole day's profit for you.
my bluffing rate is only about 10%, hehe, i know, it's low but safer for my
profit.
he
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: we always face case like below.
: KA in pocket, one guy raises bf you, and you 3 bets him, he cold calls.
: flop 10d 5d 3s sth. like this, he checked to you, you bet pot , say 80$, he
: called.
: turn is 8 h , should you follow up bluff, or just check .
: if river is another unrelated card say, 4s, he checked to you again , will
: you keep bluffing/??
: if your opponent is
: 1. loose aggressive player
: 2. tight conservetive player
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 3 There are other smaller possibilities, but mostly one would raise with
either a pair, or A with higher kicker
If he was later, then you would have advantage, but since you bet pot and he
called, it looked like he was a pair, but not too big pair. Maybe 9,9, or J
,J.
He should also guess what you had.If you keep betting big, then you would
look like a big pair.
Whether he would keep calling depends to some extend on whether he is a
donkey.
For a normal people, I would guess 40% vs 60% chance he w | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 4 I don't bet pot on flop, the flop is rather safe, 2/3 to 3/4 cb is enough.
Sometimes, you should also check, to show you don't always cb.
On the turn, I fire a second barrel when scare cards come. Otherwise,
it's fine to check to get a free card. For example, when a Q comes
and it was checked to me, I tend to bet here to represent AQ, QQ, blabla.
he
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: we always face case like below.
: KA in pocket, one guy raises bf you, and you 3 bets him, he cold calls.
: flop 10d 5d 3s sth. like this, he checked to you, you bet pot , say 80$, he
: called.
: turn is 8 h , should you follow up bluff, or just check .
: if river is another unrelated card say, 4s, he checked to you again , will
: you keep bluffing/??
: if your opponent is
: 1. loose aggressive player
: 2. tight conservetive player
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 5 I only make logical bluffs to good opps. against loose ones, I only
cb and never make daring huge river bluffs. 10% is already rather high
if you don't count cb.
caught once
my
will
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i guess the anwser depends on:
: 1) your read of his fear on each card/board (the more passive/weak he is,
: the high percentage of this factor);
: 2) your acting;
: 3) your and his stacks/bankrolls. to bluff so aggressviely and to be caught once
: by somebody would cost a whole day's profit for you.
: my bluffing rate is only about 10%, hehe, i know, it's low but safer for my
: profit.
:
: he
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 6 with pairs, I tend to bet flop myself instead of checking.
Or if my opp always cb, I may checkraise him with a pair sometimes.
he
J
you would also have this risk if you decide to bluff.That's why bluffing is
not an easy job.
lose big. It really depends on good read.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: There are other smaller possibilities, but mostly one would raise with
: either a pair, or A with higher kicker
: If he was later, then you would have advantage, but since you bet pot and he
: called, it looked like he was a pair, but not too big pair. Maybe 9,9, or J
: ,J.
: He should also guess what you had.If you keep betting big, then you would
: look like a big pair.
: Whether he would keep calling depends to some extend on whether he is a
: donkey.
: For a normal people, I would guess 40% vs 60% chance he w
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 7 If he was JJ, bet on flop is ok, but since opponent reraise him preflop,
check would be ok too.
I also feel in such situation, bluffing with small amount is
wise.
is
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: with pairs, I tend to bet flop myself instead of checking.
: Or if my opp always cb, I may checkraise him with a pair sometimes.
:
: he
: J
: you would also have this risk if you decide to bluff.That's why bluffing is
: not an easy job.
: lose big. It really depends on good read.
| p*t
发帖数: 275 | 8 bluffing 2 and 3 is better. 1 will likely to call, 4 should have you beat
big time and may raise allin on the river. 2 and 3 probably will fold a
better hand.
Check here means lose so I think I'll try another bluff (maybe half the pot).
he
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: we always face case like below.
: KA in pocket, one guy raises bf you, and you 3 bets him, he cold calls.
: flop 10d 5d 3s sth. like this, he checked to you, you bet pot , say 80$, he
: called.
: turn is 8 h , should you follow up bluff, or just check .
: if river is another unrelated card say, 4s, he checked to you again , will
: you keep bluffing/??
: if your opponent is
: 1. loose aggressive player
: 2. tight conservetive player
| p*t
发帖数: 275 | 9 btw, 1/2 pot bluff on the river may not be enough.
pot).
【在 p*t 的大作中提到】
: bluffing 2 and 3 is better. 1 will likely to call, 4 should have you beat
: big time and may raise allin on the river. 2 and 3 probably will fold a
: better hand.
: Check here means lose so I think I'll try another bluff (maybe half the pot).
:
: he
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 10 我看了你的签名挡只摇头.
BTW,给你两个牛股:BIDU,AMZN.
【在 p*t 的大作中提到】
: btw, 1/2 pot bluff on the river may not be enough.
:
: pot).
| p*t
发帖数: 275 | 11 哈哈。你这两个股都很赞。
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 我看了你的签名挡只摇头.
: BTW,给你两个牛股:BIDU,AMZN.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 12 牌手:8
底注:100 SB/BB:300/600
pre-flop:MATUSOW持KK加注1800 其他人flod.HELLMUTH在BB位持72非同花再加注至7000
.MATUSOW跟注.此时彩池为:15100.
flop: Q 6 J 彩虹 . 2人观注.
turn:8 . HELLMUTH下注17000.MATUSOW跟注.此时彩池为49100.
river:6 . HELLMUTH下注40000.MATUSOW盖牌. | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 13 this matusow is just unbelivably weak tight....
7000
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 牌手:8
: 底注:100 SB/BB:300/600
: pre-flop:MATUSOW持KK加注1800 其他人flod.HELLMUTH在BB位持72非同花再加注至7000
: .MATUSOW跟注.此时彩池为:15100.
: flop: Q 6 J 彩虹 . 2人观注.
: turn:8 . HELLMUTH下注17000.MATUSOW跟注.此时彩池为49100.
: river:6 . HELLMUTH下注40000.MATUSOW盖牌.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 14 How many would call that river bet?
I would fold on turn. |
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