m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 NL200$
a loose guy called, I bet 20$ with KK .
flop Q34two heart, I bet 25 , he called, turn is 10d, he check I bet 50$ ,
he called.
river is 2c, he all in 159$ .
Is this a bluff or value bet( 200$ in the pot )?
This is really tought for me, I mean before I will call instantly for this
obvious bluff, but last night I got some bad feeling, so think so hard( 3
minutes) | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 he chased with 56s?
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: NL200$
: a loose guy called, I bet 20$ with KK .
: flop Q34two heart, I bet 25 , he called, turn is 10d, he check I bet 50$ ,
: he called.
: river is 2c, he all in 159$ .
: Is this a bluff or value bet( 200$ in the pot )?
: This is really tought for me, I mean before I will call instantly for this
: obvious bluff, but last night I got some bad feeling, so think so hard( 3
: minutes)
| k******t
发帖数: 257 | 3 Cold calling you twice and then betting river smells monster usually. Ah5h
or 56h maybe? slowplay 33 44 also possible but probably would raise earlier.
Can't imagine a bluff here after you shows strength by firing 2 bullets.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: NL200$
: a loose guy called, I bet 20$ with KK .
: flop Q34two heart, I bet 25 , he called, turn is 10d, he check I bet 50$ ,
: he called.
: river is 2c, he all in 159$ .
: Is this a bluff or value bet( 200$ in the pot )?
: This is really tought for me, I mean before I will call instantly for this
: obvious bluff, but last night I got some bad feeling, so think so hard( 3
: minutes)
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 agree, 56s more likely.
if i were the loose guy, the way you bet pre-flop and flop indicated AA=KK>
AQ>>>QQ. your "tighter than me" image gave me more info.
FLOP:
even i was loose, i had to see 2 useful cards or a set on the flop.
set (QQ,44,33) very unlikely since i was "loose" and would be a little more
active, like kickbutt said, at least not as late as river.
so which 2 cards were good to me?
1) Q4, Q3? well, i needed to have two pairs to beat your over pair / Q with
good kicker, that meant
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】
: Cold calling you twice and then betting river smells monster usually. Ah5h
: or 56h maybe? slowplay 33 44 also possible but probably would raise earlier.
: Can't imagine a bluff here after you shows strength by firing 2 bullets.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 5 After I lay down, he showed Jh6h!!
Dang! | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 Dang! he's willing to give you $159+50+25+20=254, hehe, bluffed the wrong
guy like you, who i guess never folds KK, QQ top pair.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: After I lay down, he showed Jh6h!!
: Dang!
| j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 7 lay down=fold还是亮牌？
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: After I lay down, he showed Jh6h!!
: Dang!
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | | j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 9 damn.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: folded.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 10 it was a very tough one, the reason I folded because I never saw he bluff
like that when out of position although his image is very loose. | g****n
发帖数: 8 | 11 well, the 50-buck-bet on the turn looks a little weak,
then he may think this is the chance to bluff you.
coz your pair of King has no potential at that moment,
any card on the river would scare you.
if i were you, i would go all in on the turn, or make a pot-size bet at
least.
ps. i would not call that all in either. | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 12 There could be many situation that caused him to call.
He could have:
2,2
3,3
4,4
Q,2
Q,10
5,6
In any one of above situation, he was not bluffing you.
On a probability basis, it was less likely to be a bluffing, but the pot was too big to let go.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: NL200$
: a loose guy called, I bet 20$ with KK .
: flop Q34two heart, I bet 25 , he called, turn is 10d, he check I bet 50$ ,
: he called.
: river is 2c, he all in 159$ .
: Is this a bluff or value bet( 200$ in the pot )?
: This is really tought for me, I mean before I will call instantly for this
: obvious bluff, but last night I got some bad feeling, so think so hard( 3
: minutes)
| i***g
发帖数: 80 | 13 你们盲注多少阿？NL$200是buy in吧。
raise 20他跟看不出他的牌。
Flop出来你的bet太少了。
这种情况他有几种牌：
raibow 不跟你
flush 或 straight draw 跟你或者raise semi-bluff你
pair 你的underdog，good player会raise你防你semi bluff或者防你wait for your
draw （you bit less than the good odds for flush draw, he might think you
are doing 强制bet 来控制 size），打得不好的player会跟你
set,two pair 你是underdog，肯定会raise你防止你成flush
所以，turn你绝对要all in赶走他。他一定是top pair 或者draw。
到了river就是你傻了，肯定看不清他的位置了。因为straight draw有成牌。 | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 14 NL$200 is equal to $1/$2, or $2/$4? It is not a tournament.
your
【在 i***g 的大作中提到】
: 你们盲注多少阿？NL$200是buy in吧。
: raise 20他跟看不出他的牌。
: Flop出来你的bet太少了。
: 这种情况他有几种牌：
: raibow 不跟你
: flush 或 straight draw 跟你或者raise semi-bluff你
: pair 你的underdog，good player会raise你防你semi bluff或者防你wait for your
: draw （you bit less than the good odds for flush draw, he might think you
: are doing 强制bet 来控制 size），打得不好的player会跟你
: set,two pair 你是underdog，肯定会raise你防止你成flush
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