m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 today I got one hand.
K5 suited, big blind, every body checked to me, I checked.
flop KK10 two heart, I check, everyone check. turn is 3 not heart.
I check, button is a very tight guy , he bet 30$, I checked raise to 75$ he
call instantly.
I put him on a flush draw or K with mediem kicker( he called bf flop on the
button)
river is good card 5.( no heart)
what should I do here ( i got 500$ left, he got more money)....? | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 bet $200 if i were you.
he
the
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: today I got one hand.
: K5 suited, big blind, every body checked to me, I checked.
: flop KK10 two heart, I check, everyone check. turn is 3 not heart.
: I check, button is a very tight guy , he bet 30$, I checked raise to 75$ he
: call instantly.
: I put him on a flush draw or K with mediem kicker( he called bf flop on the
: button)
: river is good card 5.( no heart)
: what should I do here ( i got 500$ left, he got more money)....?
| s****s
发帖数: 1248 | 3 I bet 100
he
the
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: today I got one hand.
: K5 suited, big blind, every body checked to me, I checked.
: flop KK10 two heart, I check, everyone check. turn is 3 not heart.
: I check, button is a very tight guy , he bet 30$, I checked raise to 75$ he
: call instantly.
: I put him on a flush draw or K with mediem kicker( he called bf flop on the
: button)
: river is good card 5.( no heart)
: what should I do here ( i got 500$ left, he got more money)....?
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 4 I'll push him all-in. only K10 can beat you but I don't think he has that. W
hatever you bet, he'll put you on Kx (or maybe a failed flush draw bluff). I
f he's got a flush draw, he'll likely fold no matter how much you bet. You c
an only hope he's got a K and call your allin. So your all-in maximize your
expectation.
he
the
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: today I got one hand.
: K5 suited, big blind, every body checked to me, I checked.
: flop KK10 two heart, I check, everyone check. turn is 3 not heart.
: I check, button is a very tight guy , he bet 30$, I checked raise to 75$ he
: call instantly.
: I put him on a flush draw or K with mediem kicker( he called bf flop on the
: button)
: river is good card 5.( no heart)
: what should I do here ( i got 500$ left, he got more money)....?
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 5 btw such all-in may lead him to belive you're bluffing, which is an extra
bonus.
W
I
c
your
【在 l********r 的大作中提到】
: I'll push him all-in. only K10 can beat you but I don't think he has that. W
: hatever you bet, he'll put you on Kx (or maybe a failed flush draw bluff). I
: f he's got a flush draw, he'll likely fold no matter how much you bet. You c
: an only hope he's got a K and call your allin. So your all-in maximize your
: expectation.
:
: he
: the
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 6 first of all , you guys didn't see that he is a tight player , that is the
most important information.
1. he got flush draw and missed( my all in doesn't make sense)
2. he got middle kicker, how can he call all in 500$??!( I got 500$ left)
3. he got big kicker like Q or J, I don't think he can call 400$ allin
because he is so tight, for a pot he only commited 100$ bucks, he probablly
will fold( my image is good too).
4. he got K 10 , then I made a donkey move.
anycase, there is no way to all in | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 7 hm I didn't notice he's a very tight player. Now it's interesting. The pot i
s about $450 and you need $200 to call. What could he have? If he had K10, h
e slow played and didn't re-raise you on the turn. Is that normal? Why didn'
t he raise you another $75 on the turn? Maybe you're somewhat aggressive and
he expected you to bet first on the river?
If he had AK or K5, then you wouldn't lose. Anyway, I think he either had AK
or K5 and you should call with the 2:1 plus odds. Actually, I think re-
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: first of all , you guys didn't see that he is a tight player , that is the
: most important information.
: 1. he got flush draw and missed( my all in doesn't make sense)
: 2. he got middle kicker, how can he call all in 500$??!( I got 500$ left)
: 3. he got big kicker like Q or J, I don't think he can call 400$ allin
: because he is so tight, for a pot he only commited 100$ bucks, he probablly
: will fold( my image is good too).
: 4. he got K 10 , then I made a donkey move.
: anycase, there is no way to all in
| h******y
发帖数: 3501 | 8 if you truly believes he is tight and doesn't bluff at all, fold then. your
pot commitment is not too much.
probablly
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: first of all , you guys didn't see that he is a tight player , that is the
: most important information.
: 1. he got flush draw and missed( my all in doesn't make sense)
: 2. he got middle kicker, how can he call all in 500$??!( I got 500$ left)
: 3. he got big kicker like Q or J, I don't think he can call 400$ allin
: because he is so tight, for a pot he only commited 100$ bucks, he probablly
: will fold( my image is good too).
: 4. he got K 10 , then I made a donkey move.
: anycase, there is no way to all in
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 9
your
Nobody except you can lay down my hand for another 200$. I got the second
best hand, at least call.
【在 h******y 的大作中提到】
: if you truly believes he is tight and doesn't bluff at all, fold then. your
: pot commitment is not too much.
:
: probablly
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 10 I put him on K 10 or K 5 or 10 10. so I just called.
He show K 10.( if his image is a little bit loose, I will all in here)
Later he prove he is such a tight player.
flop 10 5 2 no flush draw. one guy bet 50$ in big blind, he jump out bet 100
$ more the guy folded and he show pocket 55, even with such a dry flop, he
still scare people out, how tight is he!
i
h
didn'
and
AK
【在 l********r 的大作中提到】
: hm I didn't notice he's a very tight player. Now it's interesting. The pot i
: s about $450 and you need $200 to call. What could he have? If he had K10, h
: e slow played and didn't re-raise you on the turn. Is that normal? Why didn'
: t he raise you another $75 on the turn? Maybe you're somewhat aggressive and
: he expected you to bet first on the river?
: If he had AK or K5, then you wouldn't lose. Anyway, I think he either had AK
: or K5 and you should call with the 2:1 plus odds. Actually, I think re-
| | | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 11 Your stories prove that there're a lot of super tight players in real money
cash game. Playing fake money too much tend to make people forget this fact.
So I am going to stop playing fake money game soon. Otherwise it hurts my j
udgement.
Also, such player won't survive in tournaments. They play too tight and can
only advance to top 1/3 at best.
100
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I put him on K 10 or K 5 or 10 10. so I just called.
: He show K 10.( if his image is a little bit loose, I will all in here)
: Later he prove he is such a tight player.
: flop 10 5 2 no flush draw. one guy bet 50$ in big blind, he jump out bet 100
: $ more the guy folded and he show pocket 55, even with such a dry flop, he
: still scare people out, how tight is he!
:
: i
: h
: didn'
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 12 he got position, so he may put me on flush draw, even if I got K, he just
call , not showing his power on the turn. if he didn't have position he may
jump out and test my kicker right on the turn .
i
h
didn'
and
AK
【在 l********r 的大作中提到】
: hm I didn't notice he's a very tight player. Now it's interesting. The pot i
: s about $450 and you need $200 to call. What could he have? If he had K10, h
: e slow played and didn't re-raise you on the turn. Is that normal? Why didn'
: t he raise you another $75 on the turn? Maybe you're somewhat aggressive and
: he expected you to bet first on the river?
: If he had AK or K5, then you wouldn't lose. Anyway, I think he either had AK
: or K5 and you should call with the 2:1 plus odds. Actually, I think re-
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 13 It makes sense.
may
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: he got position, so he may put me on flush draw, even if I got K, he just
: call , not showing his power on the turn. if he didn't have position he may
: jump out and test my kicker right on the turn .
:
: i
: h
: didn'
: and
: AK
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 14 if I were you , I start play real money already.
You can try small limit first, with your skill, I think you can at least
survive, after you accumulate some experience and $, you can move up. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 FAKE MONEY看的牌太多了，自然乱七八糟事情发生的概率也大多了。REAL MONEY你一般
的牌，对手砸$100，$200出来还是很震撼的，呵呵。
money
fact.
j
can
【在 l********r 的大作中提到】
: Your stories prove that there're a lot of super tight players in real money
: cash game. Playing fake money too much tend to make people forget this fact.
: So I am going to stop playing fake money game soon. Otherwise it hurts my j
: udgement.
: Also, such player won't survive in tournaments. They play too tight and can
: only advance to top 1/3 at best.
:
: 100
| l******n
发帖数: 641 | 16 so play limited, that's what i feel. hoho
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: FAKE MONEY看的牌太多了，自然乱七八糟事情发生的概率也大多了。REAL MONEY你一般
: 的牌，对手砸$100，$200出来还是很震撼的，呵呵。
:
: money
: fact.
: j
: can
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 17 for limit hold'em , it is still need to read your opponent.
although you may suffer less for this kind of monster to monster hand.
but if you keep calling and loose play , you still will lose a lot in the
long term. and in limit hold'em , it is very hard to protect your hand,
because people will chase you al the way to the river. then result depends
more on luck than on skill.
That is why I didn't play limit hold'em. | l******n
发帖数: 641 | 18 yes, i fold at least 50% when i was holding pocket aces.
it's so strange but i have to adpot to it.
since my ld only allow me to play limited for real money.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: for limit hold'em , it is still need to read your opponent.
: although you may suffer less for this kind of monster to monster hand.
: but if you keep calling and loose play , you still will lose a lot in the
: long term. and in limit hold'em , it is very hard to protect your hand,
: because people will chase you al the way to the river. then result depends
: more on luck than on skill.
: That is why I didn't play limit hold'em.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 没关系，其实L玩得好也一样赢钱，主要是不能用NL的思维方式，压注方式去玩，虽然
有一定相似处。
玩L的人一般都是俺这样小市民，几块钱也是钱，你压到一定程度他们也怕也在乎。总
的来讲，因为风险小了，你可以看/玩的牌多了。L的问题是不能玩久了(如果很在意输
赢的话)，因为久了大家的牌是平均的，而且赌场抽头积累比较多。
NL可能你一个小时都玩不了两手牌，但是机会/判断对了，一把你就可以走人了。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: yes, i fold at least 50% when i was holding pocket aces.
: it's so strange but i have to adpot to it.
: since my ld only allow me to play limited for real money.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 20 L的问题是不能玩久了(如果很在意输
赢的话)，因为久了大家的牌是平均的，而且赌场抽头积累比较多。
then what is the meaning of poker, I mean you can play only for fun. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 呵呵，所以人家说有高手玩20/40 L的。
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: L的问题是不能玩久了(如果很在意输
: 赢的话)，因为久了大家的牌是平均的，而且赌场抽头积累比较多。
: then what is the meaning of poker, I mean you can play only for fun.
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