m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 1 Yesterday in commerce.NL200game
I got 9d10d. called in early position.
One player bet 20$ right in front of the button, button called, I called 15$
more, 3 players in the pot.
Flop is
5dJdQd
I checked, the player bet before the flop bet 100$, to my surprise, button
all in !!(
she had 1000$ ) I had more than 1000$ at that time.
What can she have? should I call??
I really took a tough time to think about her hand. | m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 2 Her image is kind of tight, but sometime she gambled too. | q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 3 Ad?d
瞎猜的。
15$
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : Yesterday in commerce.NL200game : I got 9d10d. called in early position. : One player bet 20$ right in front of the button, button called, I called 15$ : more, 3 players in the pot. : Flop is : 5dJdQd : I checked, the player bet before the flop bet 100$, to my surprise, button : all in !!( : she had 1000$ ) I had more than 1000$ at that time. : What can she have? should I call??
| m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 4 That is the first hand I think she didn't have.
If she really had nut, for that safe flop, there is no reason she push me
out, she had to suck me in. | m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 5 if you had A high flush with no paiir on the board, will you all in and push
everybody out? | q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 6 Kd?d ?
push
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : if you had A high flush with no paiir on the board, will you all in and push : everybody out?
| m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 7 I didn't put her on that too, because there only one out can beat her,
for a 200$ pot, she probably will raise a little bit or even just call, she
just need to cut the pot odds for a A high flush draw, that only need 200$ ,
not all in.
Think it again, why she all in 1000$ , she didn't want me in the pot at all.
the bettor only have 100$ left I forgot to tell you. so the bettor may call
since he commited too much already. | k******t 发帖数: 257 | 8
15$
Lower suit connector D? or AdQ
it's no brainer call though since 910 is second nut virtually.
tight player won't play A-rag suited,let alone K-rag in raised pot.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : Yesterday in commerce.NL200game : I got 9d10d. called in early position. : One player bet 20$ right in front of the button, button called, I called 15$ : more, 3 players in the pot. : Flop is : 5dJdQd : I checked, the player bet before the flop bet 100$, to my surprise, button : all in !!( : she had 1000$ ) I had more than 1000$ at that time. : What can she have? should I call??
| j**y 发帖数: 7014 | 9 is it a "trap"?
what is LZ's style in button's mind?
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】 : : 15$ : Lower suit connector D? or AdQ : it's no brainer call though since 910 is second nut virtually. : tight player won't play A-rag suited,let alone K-rag in raised pot.
| D***L 发帖数: 449 | 10 my guess is that she had KdQ or AdQ. That is, top pair and a flush draw.
If she had k-high or A-high flush already, then her hand is almost
impossible to beat. and it is not wise to call all-in coz it would scare ppl
away.
it's a gamble. But i would call.
i also guess LZ called and won the hand :D
15$
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : Yesterday in commerce.NL200game : I got 9d10d. called in early position. : One player bet 20$ right in front of the button, button called, I called 15$ : more, 3 players in the pot. : Flop is : 5dJdQd : I checked, the player bet before the flop bet 100$, to my surprise, button : all in !!( : she had 1000$ ) I had more than 1000$ at that time. : What can she have? should I call??
| | | m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 11 I didn't put her on a very big hand, maybe a set or two pairs, but I just
can't risk all my chips for a pot I only commited 20$!
I fold, bettor called his last 100$ showing AA(d),
no diamond came, the 1000$ allin button show JQsuited!!
still a good lay down I think..... | D***L 发帖数: 449 | 12 i forgot there was another one in play. My guess sorta combined the two's
hands. I just can't lay down a flush with a possibility of straight flush,
especially when I am pretty positive that the button has yet to have a flush
. Fortunately, her suiteQJ can't be QdJd. Well, i guess the difference is, i
am not the one who's actually playing money :)
btw, who won the hand in the end?
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : I didn't put her on a very big hand, maybe a set or two pairs, but I just : can't risk all my chips for a pot I only commited 20$! : I fold, bettor called his last 100$ showing AA(d), : no diamond came, the 1000$ allin button show JQsuited!! : still a good lay down I think.....
| m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 13 JQ two pairs,
If I called I will win that 2000$ pot. | x**h 发帖数: 1519 | 14 real moeny?
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : JQ two pairs, : If I called I will win that 2000$ pot.
| m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 15 of course it is real money.
think it again, would you call 900$ ( the pot you commited only 20$) for a
4th best hand?? | l********r 发帖数: 868 | 16 This is real money game, so the $1000 all-in is really surprising.
1. if she held nuts, a raise to $200 is more reasonable;
2. if she's on flush draw, she would just call;
3. if she thought she had the best hand, either over pair, top-top, or 2-
pair, and wanted to prevent flush draw, a raise to $300 is more than enough
4. if she's bluffing, normally she didn't want to risk all her chips;
5. if she wanted to make you two believe she's bluffing, it's possible. but
again, if she had a K high or nu
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : Yesterday in commerce.NL200game : I got 9d10d. called in early position. : One player bet 20$ right in front of the button, button called, I called 15$ : more, 3 players in the pot. : Flop is : 5dJdQd : I checked, the player bet before the flop bet 100$, to my surprise, button : all in !!( : she had 1000$ ) I had more than 1000$ at that time. : What can she have? should I call??
| l********r 发帖数: 868 | 17 Ok my guess is right. I wouldn't fold this hand. But I think you played
correctly in a cash game. It's not tournament. You have no pressure. Being
conservative is the right approach. As long as you don't lose big and keep
winning, why bother.
I learned it my way in Las Vegas. That was the first time I realized why
local players acted so conservatively. They just wanted to move on and earn
stable income every day.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : I didn't put her on a very big hand, maybe a set or two pairs, but I just : can't risk all my chips for a pot I only commited 20$! : I fold, bettor called his last 100$ showing AA(d), : no diamond came, the 1000$ allin button show JQsuited!! : still a good lay down I think.....
| l*********e 发帖数: 7492 | 18 zan!
earn
【在 l********r 的大作中提到】 : Ok my guess is right. I wouldn't fold this hand. But I think you played : correctly in a cash game. It's not tournament. You have no pressure. Being : conservative is the right approach. As long as you don't lose big and keep : winning, why bother. : I learned it my way in Las Vegas. That was the first time I realized why : local players acted so conservatively. They just wanted to move on and earn : stable income every day.
| m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 19 That is a good analysis.
But that is after the hand, you can make that good explain.
If you can really analysize that well during that hand and within 2 minutes,
you really should go pro. | l********r 发帖数: 868 | 20 Yes I think I did this in 2 minutes. Actually I was just started typing my
thoughts after I read your description. But a mistake I made was: I was
thinking in tournament concepts, not cash game, as I explained after I saw
your reply.
The bigger concern for me is: this game has no barrier. Young people (18-25)
are doing so well and they're so aggressive (at least in tournaments). I
really don't know what kind of people will play against you once you reach a
certain level. If everyone is so cunnin
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】 : That is a good analysis. : But that is after the hand, you can make that good explain. : If you can really analysize that well during that hand and within 2 minutes, : you really should go pro.
| | | l********r 发帖数: 868 | 21 But she's on the button. She could play Ax or Kx. Of course I don't think
this is the case due to her all-in.
【在 k******t 的大作中提到】 : : 15$ : Lower suit connector D? or AdQ : it's no brainer call though since 910 is second nut virtually. : tight player won't play A-rag suited,let alone K-rag in raised pot.
| m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | | m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | | m*****i 发帖数: 1873 | 24 I achieve your level at least 1 year effort.
But I got more experience though, that is kind of more important than theory.
just in case people know the theory, but in fact, there are so many people,
they don't know the poker theory and keep playing their way, lost some time,
win some time, totally lost, and keep coming back and play.
That is why smarter people can consistantly win( statistically) |
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