s*******l
发帖数: 4870 | 1 这个老师好衰啊！
她两年前写的博客居然被挖出来了，
里面有不指名道姓(连学校名字都没有写)地嘲讽批评自己的高中学生的言语，
有批评学生的, 比如
"Kids! They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs. Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy
LOAFERS."
有批评家长的, 比如
"Parents are more trying to be their kids' friends and less trying to be
their parent,"
有mean的, 比如?(我听来的, may not be exact wording)
This kid's report card cannot compare to his sister's at all, are they even
related?
This kid's report card is as bad as his sibling's, what's wrong with the
parenting in this family?!
其实她也就实话实说，结果估计会被fire掉
http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110216/teache
FEASTERVILLE, Pa. — A high school English teacher in suburban Philadelphia
who was suspended for a profanity-laced blog in which she called her young
charges "disengaged, lazy whiners" is driving a sensation by daring to ask:
Why are today's students unmotivated -- and what's wrong with calling them
out?
As she fights to keep her job at Central Bucks East High School, 30-year-old
Natalie Munroe says she had no interest in becoming any sort of educational
icon. The blog has been taken down, but its contents can still be found
easily online.
Her comments and her suspension by the middle-class school district have
clearly touched a nerve, with scores of online commenters applauding her for
taking a tough love approach or excoriating her for verbal abuse. Media
attention has rained down, and backers have started a Facebook group.
"My students are out of control," Munroe, who has taught 10th, 11th and 12th
grades, wrote in one post. "They are rude, disengaged, lazy whiners. They
curse, discuss drugs, talk back, argue for grades, complain about everything
, fancy themselves entitled to whatever they desire, and are just generally
annoying."
And in another post, Munroe -- who is more than eight months pregnant --
quotes from the musical "Bye Bye Birdie": "Kids! They are disobedient,
disrespectful oafs. Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy LOAFERS."
She also listed some comments she wished she could post on student
evaluations, including: "I hear the trash company is hiring"; "I called out
sick a couple of days just to avoid your son"; and "Just as bad as his
sibling. Don't you know how to raise kids?"
Munroe did not use her full name or identify her students or school in the
blog, which she started in August 2009 for friends and family. Last week,
she said, students brought it to the attention of the school, which
suspended her with pay.
"They get angry when you ask them to think or be creative," Munroe said of
her students in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday. "The
students are not being held accountable."
Munroe pointed out that she also said positive things, but she acknowledges
that she did write some things out of frustration — and of a feeling that
many kids today are being given a free pass at school and at home.
"Parents are more trying to be their kids' friends and less trying to be
their parent," Munroe said, also noting students' lack of patience. "They
want everything right now. They want it yesterday."
One of Munroe's former students, who now attends McDaniel College in
Westminster, Md., said he was torn by his former teacher's comments. Jeff
Shoolbraid said that he thought much of what Munroe said was true and that
she had a right to voice her opinion, but felt her comments were out of line
for a teacher.
"Whatever influenced her to say what she did is evidence as to why she
simply should not teach," Shoolbraid wrote in an e-mail to the AP. "I just
thought it was completely inappropriate."
He continued: "As far as motivated high school students, she's completely
correct. High school kids don't want to do anything. ... It's a teacher's
job, however, to give students the motivation to learn."
A spokesman for the Pennsylvania State Education Association declined to
comment Tuesday because he said the group may represent Munroe. Messages
left for the Central Bucks School District superintendent were not returned.
Sandi Jacobs, vice president of the National Council on Teacher Quality,
said school districts are navigating uncharted territory when it comes to
teachers' online behavior. Often, districts want teachers to have more
contact with students and their families, yet give little guidance on how
teachers should behave online even as students are more plugged in than they
've ever been.
"This is really murky stuff," she said. "When you have a teacher using their
blog to berate their students, maybe that's a little less murky. But the
larger issue is, I think, districts are totally unprepared to deal with this
."
Munroe has hired an attorney, who said that she had the right to post her
thoughts on the blog and that it's a free speech issue. The attorney, Steven
Rovner, said the district has led Munroe to believe that she will
eventually lose her job.
"She could have been any person, any teacher in America writing about their
lives," he said, pointing out that Munroe blogged about 85 times and that
only about 15 to 20 of the posts involved her being a teacher. "It's honest
and raw and a little edgy depending on your taste. ... She has a deep
frustration for the educational system in America."
Rovner said that he would consider legal action if indeed Munroe loses her
job.
"She did it as carefully as she could," he said about her blog. "It's so
general that it applies to the problems in school districts and schools
across the country." | s****u
发帖数: 2203 | 2 为啥啊？要是网上都不让说话，上哪儿说去？
lazy
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 这个老师好衰啊！
: 她两年前写的博客居然被挖出来了，
: 里面有不指名道姓(连学校名字都没有写)地嘲讽批评自己的高中学生的言语，
: 有批评学生的, 比如
: "Kids! They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs. Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy
: LOAFERS."
: 有批评家长的, 比如
: "Parents are more trying to be their kids' friends and less trying to be
: their parent,"
: 有mean的, 比如?(我听来的, may not be exact wording)
| h**********n
发帖数: 165 | 3 当面不能说，还不让人背后说点真话呀。 我不喜欢美国的这虚伪。
lazy
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 这个老师好衰啊！
: 她两年前写的博客居然被挖出来了，
: 里面有不指名道姓(连学校名字都没有写)地嘲讽批评自己的高中学生的言语，
: 有批评学生的, 比如
: "Kids! They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs. Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy
: LOAFERS."
: 有批评家长的, 比如
: "Parents are more trying to be their kids' friends and less trying to be
: their parent,"
: 有mean的, 比如?(我听来的, may not be exact wording)
| h******y
发帖数: 861 | 4 博克估计是public得，就不太算在背后说吧。
【在 h**********n 的大作中提到】
: 当面不能说，还不让人背后说点真话呀。 我不喜欢美国的这虚伪。
:
: lazy
| s*******l
发帖数: 4870 | 5 可是她没写名字啊！
【在 h******y 的大作中提到】
: 博克估计是public得，就不太算在背后说吧。
| p*****e
发帖数: 5165 | 6 现在的米国，放p的事情越来越多了！
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 可是她没写名字啊！
| f****n
发帖数: 4615 | 7 抓住了
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 现在的米国，放p的事情越来越多了！
| w*******e
发帖数: 2150 | | s*******l
发帖数: 4870 | 9 是啊，越来越觉得虎妈威武了，哪儿那么多心灵好伤害啊
连送个的卡，老师都要写条子来：
If you are sending out a card, make sure you send it to everyone
we don't want any hurt feeling
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: 啧啧啧，想当年这些话，老师都是当着我们面说的。
| e*e
发帖数: 6808 | 10 我们也是这样的
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，越来越觉得虎妈威武了，哪儿那么多心灵好伤害啊
: 连送个的卡，老师都要写条子来：
: If you are sending out a card, make sure you send it to everyone
: we don't want any hurt feeling
| | | v****a
发帖数: 478 | 11 same here
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，越来越觉得虎妈威武了，哪儿那么多心灵好伤害啊
: 连送个的卡，老师都要写条子来：
: If you are sending out a card, make sure you send it to everyone
: we don't want any hurt feeling
| s*******l
发帖数: 4870 | 12 我看的基本上所有美国电视剧里头的人都心理有问题，都需要therapy of some sort :
P
哪儿那么多问题啊？
都是从小被保护过度惯的//run
【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 我们也是这样的
| b******r
发帖数: 3206 | 13 这个我已经想通了。虽然孩子之间不可避免的会有亲疏远近，但是老师这样坚持至少给
了那些一开始不能讨同学喜欢的孩子一些机会去表现自己，而且从理念的角度上一定程
度保持了孩子们关于交朋友的观念的开放程度——这个博爱的思想虽然不可能彻底执行
，但是教总比不教好。当然，这个从真诚到虚伪的尺度很不容易把握。:p
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，越来越觉得虎妈威武了，哪儿那么多心灵好伤害啊
: 连送个的卡，老师都要写条子来：
: If you are sending out a card, make sure you send it to everyone
: we don't want any hurt feeling
| s*******l
发帖数: 4870 | 14 小孩子就不该过情人节，
这样每人都有你好我好大家都拿堆破卡的节，
一点意义都没有
【在 b******r 的大作中提到】
: 这个我已经想通了。虽然孩子之间不可避免的会有亲疏远近，但是老师这样坚持至少给
: 了那些一开始不能讨同学喜欢的孩子一些机会去表现自己，而且从理念的角度上一定程
: 度保持了孩子们关于交朋友的观念的开放程度——这个博爱的思想虽然不可能彻底执行
: ，但是教总比不教好。当然，这个从真诚到虚伪的尺度很不容易把握。:p
| h******y
发帖数: 861 | 15 估计会有人对号入座阿。。。
这事教育我们有牢骚说说就算了，写出来还是的小心。。。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 可是她没写名字啊！
| f****y
发帖数: 879 | 16 难啊，我自己都不能做到，更不要说去要求孩子。
【在 b******r 的大作中提到】
: 这个我已经想通了。虽然孩子之间不可避免的会有亲疏远近，但是老师这样坚持至少给
: 了那些一开始不能讨同学喜欢的孩子一些机会去表现自己，而且从理念的角度上一定程
: 度保持了孩子们关于交朋友的观念的开放程度——这个博爱的思想虽然不可能彻底执行
: ，但是教总比不教好。当然，这个从真诚到虚伪的尺度很不容易把握。:p
| s*******o
发帖数: 2452 | 17 话说我们就被伤害过。。。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，越来越觉得虎妈威武了，哪儿那么多心灵好伤害啊
: 连送个的卡，老师都要写条子来：
: If you are sending out a card, make sure you send it to everyone
: we don't want any hurt feeling
| s*******o
发帖数: 2452 | 18 RE,
说的很好啊！
【在 b******r 的大作中提到】
: 这个我已经想通了。虽然孩子之间不可避免的会有亲疏远近，但是老师这样坚持至少给
: 了那些一开始不能讨同学喜欢的孩子一些机会去表现自己，而且从理念的角度上一定程
: 度保持了孩子们关于交朋友的观念的开放程度——这个博爱的思想虽然不可能彻底执行
: ，但是教总比不教好。当然，这个从真诚到虚伪的尺度很不容易把握。:p
| F*******t
发帖数: 1283 | 19 学校过这个大概就是怕如果没组织就会有小朋友被left out
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 小孩子就不该过情人节，
: 这样每人都有你好我好大家都拿堆破卡的节，
: 一点意义都没有
| A**u
发帖数: 2087 | 20 估计是要死定了。
lazy
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 这个老师好衰啊！
: 她两年前写的博客居然被挖出来了，
: 里面有不指名道姓(连学校名字都没有写)地嘲讽批评自己的高中学生的言语，
: 有批评学生的, 比如
: "Kids! They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs. Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy
: LOAFERS."
: 有批评家长的, 比如
: "Parents are more trying to be their kids' friends and less trying to be
: their parent,"
: 有mean的, 比如?(我听来的, may not be exact wording)
| s*********8
发帖数: 939 | 21 老美就是一个节接一个节，连着过一年，反正少不了花钱的地方
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 小孩子就不该过情人节，
: 这样每人都有你好我好大家都拿堆破卡的节，
: 一点意义都没有
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