G*******X
发帖数: 1028 | 1 看来楼上的case，也读了有关建议，知道never sign a PIP
但如果老板和HR坐一起，让你签PIP，你能怎么办？就硬是不签？那会不会被立刻fire
掉？说不合作？ |
w*****3
发帖数: 2301 | 2 cow!
pip is like any other documents with ur company.
u have to follow ur company regulation , right?
Then u have to sign pip. no choice.
the option u have is either to tolerate the torture from ur boss for layoff
package or to piss them off right away! |
w*****3
发帖数: 2301 | 3 forgot to say:
NEVER expect the boss is doing PIP for your good. the only purpose of PIP is
to fire/lay off an employee safely within very short timeframe (30days-
90days) from the company perspective. |
H*****8
发帖数: 357 | 4 pip usually said: your signature indicate that you have read, doesn't have
to agree with it. So I think you have to sign as it is company regulation.
I asked to sign it tomorrow, but boss said no, she just marked on pip as
employee refuse to sign. later, i just sign and mark as I have read, but
disagree with it. |
C*******d
发帖数: 3345 | 5 就是不签又能怎样，他们要fire一个人，和这个人是不是签字，没关系。
fire
【在 G*******X 的大作中提到】
: 看来楼上的case，也读了有关建议，知道never sign a PIP
: 但如果老板和HR坐一起，让你签PIP，你能怎么办？就硬是不签？那会不会被立刻fire
: 掉？说不合作？
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C********g
发帖数: 1548 | |
G*******X
发帖数: 1028 | 7 也就是说，如果要你签PIP，你明知道不好，也没有任何其他选择，只有签，然后任人
宰割？
Then what is the best action you can take when you are asked to sign a PIP?
layoff
【在 w*****3 的大作中提到】
: cow!
: pip is like any other documents with ur company.
: u have to follow ur company regulation , right?
: Then u have to sign pip. no choice.
: the option u have is either to tolerate the torture from ur boss for layoff
: package or to piss them off right away!
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i******t
发帖数: 22541 | |
f********x
发帖数: 2086 | |
w**********5
发帖数: 232 | 10 以前同部门有一位同事，60岁左右，为人很好，像个阿姨一样。后来和她那组新来的小
老板有些冲突，小老板处处咄咄逼人，这阿姨不像她们组其它小朋友那么唯命是从（平
均年龄不到30吧），结果就是怎么做都不对。她身体渐渐不好，有过几次病休，回来不
久就被PIP了。她老实巴交的签了。90天后被fire了。
她后来有找过很多律师，觉得是age discrimination，律师都告诉她，签了PIP后被
fire就没有case了。我觉得那阿姨特别可怜，本来过几年就退休了。
所以我觉得，如果你觉得不公平，最好现在说，以后你说任何话，都不见得会有人听了
. 老板让你上PIP的唯一目的就是minimize future liability，要是就是为了你进步，
私下指导，weekly one-on-one, 总是可以的。
如果你觉得你有case，不如乘早negotiate a package, because after the PIP, no
one will negotiate with you. |
b*****g
发帖数: 145 | |
t*****n
发帖数: 4908 | 12 可以。你google就知道的了。我记得是可以签个字，说看到这个pip，但是不签pip。
【在 b*****g 的大作中提到】
: 可以不签吗？
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s***n
发帖数: 1280 | 13 这个具体要看PIP是怎么写的，不能一概而论。有些PIP是"知道"签字，有些是"同意"签
字。
http://www.employmentlawfirms.com/resources/employment/employee
“Refusing to sign a PIP can be interpreted as insubordination or a
voluntary quit. It is a better approach to sign under protest, adding a line
that contains some version of these thoughts: a) I disagree with the
content, b) I protest the PIP, c) my signature indicates only that I have
received this document, not that I agree with it, and d) I intend to prepare
a formal response.”
【在 w**********5 的大作中提到】
: 以前同部门有一位同事，60岁左右，为人很好，像个阿姨一样。后来和她那组新来的小
: 老板有些冲突，小老板处处咄咄逼人，这阿姨不像她们组其它小朋友那么唯命是从（平
: 均年龄不到30吧），结果就是怎么做都不对。她身体渐渐不好，有过几次病休，回来不
: 久就被PIP了。她老实巴交的签了。90天后被fire了。
: 她后来有找过很多律师，觉得是age discrimination，律师都告诉她，签了PIP后被
: fire就没有case了。我觉得那阿姨特别可怜，本来过几年就退休了。
: 所以我觉得，如果你觉得不公平，最好现在说，以后你说任何话，都不见得会有人听了
: . 老板让你上PIP的唯一目的就是minimize future liability，要是就是为了你进步，
: 私下指导，weekly one-on-one, 总是可以的。
: 如果你觉得你有case，不如乘早negotiate a package, because after the PIP, no
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