b*******l
发帖数: 590 | 1 看到版上好多人说职场一般规则是counter offer不能接，哪位大牛给讲讲为啥？
谢谢！ | t*****n
发帖数: 4908 | 2 counter offer就是把你暂时留住，完成手上的活。以后没用处了，说不定就开了。你
google一下，巨多回答。
【在 b*******l 的大作中提到】
: 看到版上好多人说职场一般规则是counter offer不能接，哪位大牛给讲讲为啥？
: 谢谢！
| b*******l
发帖数: 590 | 3 多谢大牛，在网上看到这个：
When an employee resigns, it's common for the employer to counter with
another offer in order to persuade the employee to stay. It takes a lot of
time and money for a company to find and replace valuable staff, so unless
the decision is mutual, the company will want to do what it can to retain
the employee. Given today's tough job market, who wouldn't want to be in a
situation where two companies want you? Yet the counteroffer can often
create more problems than it can solve.
Bing: Tips on negotiating a better job offer
When human-resources professionals and recruiters were asked whether
accepting a counteroffer is ever a good idea, most replied with a resounding
"no." A few cases were made for taking a counteroffer, but only if done so
for the right reasons and in the right way.
"Recognizing all situations are unique and there is no 'one size fits all'
answer, the potentially departing employee needs to consider a number of
things when faced with this scenario," says Fred R. Cooper, managing partner
at Compass HR Consulting.
Why accepting a counteroffer may backfire
You may lose trust. By telling your employer you've either been offered or
accepted another position, you're essentially saying you've been unhappy. So
even if your company does counter, how can it trust that you won't
eventually stray again?
"By resigning, you've severed the bond of trust with your company," says
Judi Perkins, career coach and founder of Find the Perfect Job. "It's like
catching your partner cheating. There will always be that bit of doubt. You'
ll eventually leave the company, but next time it will be on their terms,
not yours."
Elene Cafasso, president at executive coaching firm Enerpace Inc., agrees,
saying, "You could be seen as a 'short timer' and be passed up for
promotions, the best projects, etc. Your current employer may just counter [
the] offer to keep you around long enough to get your replacement identified
and trained."
You can burn bridges. Just as threatening to resign can leave a bad taste in
your current employer's mouth, going back on an offer you accepted from
another company can sour its view of you as well. Even if your acceptance
was oral, it's still viewed as an agreement between you and the company. If
you decide to stay put but things don't get better, you've burned a bridge
with a company that may have been a better fit.
"If the hiring company has released the other candidates and announced your
imminent arrival -- that you then renege on -- you just ruined your
reputation with [a] top-rate company in your industry," Perkins says.
Your problem won't necessarily be solved. "If the person accepts the
counteroffer and stays with their current employer, there is better than an
85 percent chance that the person will leave the company within six months,"
says Alan Fluhrer, CEO of recruiting firm Fluhrer & Bridges. "This is due
to the fact that the underlying issues have not been resolved."
It shouldn't take a counteroffer to get what you want. It's rarely a good
idea to look for a new job for the sole purpose of using it as a bargaining
tool with your current company. Not only does that send the wrong message,
but it shouldn't take you threatening to leave for your employer to see your
value. "What does it say about your current employer if you have to
basically blackmail them to get a fair salary, recognition and/or
opportunities for advancement? Why would you want to stay?" Cafasso says.
You accepted the original offer for a reason. If you've accepted an offer
from another company, you've likely done so after much contemplation and for
a variety of reasons. Some may have to do with issues you're having at your
current company, while others may be because you see opportunity at the new
company. Cooper suggests thinking about the situation like this: "With this
new job, I've made 'the cut': I'm the one they want. I've researched the
company and its culture and it is someplace I want to be. I want this new
opportunity for all the things offered and more -- it provides the financial
, emotional, cultural and/or other things missing in my current employment."
When a counteroffer is worth considering
"Obviously each situation is different, but certainly accepting a
counteroffer can be very appropriate, if it addresses the 'itch' that caused
you to look at alternatives in the first place," says John Millikin,
clinical professor of management at Arizona State University's W.P. Carey
School of Business. "People tend to listen [to executive search calls] when
they are unhappy with current assignments, feel blocked on advancement, have
issues with their own management, etc. A successful counteroffer needs to
address these concerns, as well."
When it comes to burning bridges with the company from which you accepted an
offer, Millikin says there is always that chance. "You can, however,
mitigate some of that by simply being as transparent [with the hiring
company] as possible. If you were candid about why you might leave, it is
easier to tell a convincing story about how your current employer truly
addressed the concern."
Addressing the issues head-on
While the answer to whether you should accept a counteroffer isn't black and
white, perhaps the best approach is to address the issues you're having at
your current company before they get so bad they drive you to leave. If you
tell your manager and nothing improves, then you'll never wonder whether
things would have gotten better. You can move on to your next opportunity
without looking back. | t*****n
发帖数: 4908 | 4 不错，就是好长。。。
【在 b*******l 的大作中提到】
: 多谢大牛，在网上看到这个：
: When an employee resigns, it's common for the employer to counter with
: another offer in order to persuade the employee to stay. It takes a lot of
: time and money for a company to find and replace valuable staff, so unless
: the decision is mutual, the company will want to do what it can to retain
: the employee. Given today's tough job market, who wouldn't want to be in a
: situation where two companies want you? Yet the counteroffer can often
: create more problems than it can solve.
: Bing: Tips on negotiating a better job offer
: When human-resources professionals and recruiters were asked whether
| k**n
发帖数: 3989 | 5 我的经历是可以接。没事。。特别是中小公司。。留住能干活的人不容易。 | f*******e
发帖数: 4531 | 6 我所知道的一些小公司确实找人不容易，大中型公司难说。
最主要的问题还是信任流失，对今后的发展不利，特别是纯粹因为收入打算跳槽的。
【在 k**n 的大作中提到】
: 我的经历是可以接。没事。。特别是中小公司。。留住能干活的人不容易。
| p********r
发帖数: 1465 | | b**u
发帖数: 2761 | 8 zan
【在 b*******l 的大作中提到】
: 多谢大牛，在网上看到这个：
: When an employee resigns, it's common for the employer to counter with
: another offer in order to persuade the employee to stay. It takes a lot of
: time and money for a company to find and replace valuable staff, so unless
: the decision is mutual, the company will want to do what it can to retain
: the employee. Given today's tough job market, who wouldn't want to be in a
: situation where two companies want you? Yet the counteroffer can often
: create more problems than it can solve.
: Bing: Tips on negotiating a better job offer
: When human-resources professionals and recruiters were asked whether
| b*******l
发帖数: 590 | 9 看到版上好多人说职场一般规则是counter offer不能接，哪位大牛给讲讲为啥？
谢谢！ | t*****n
发帖数: 4908 | 10 counter offer就是把你暂时留住，完成手上的活。以后没用处了，说不定就开了。你
google一下，巨多回答。
【在 b*******l 的大作中提到】
: 看到版上好多人说职场一般规则是counter offer不能接，哪位大牛给讲讲为啥？
: 谢谢！
| | | b*******l
发帖数: 590 | 11 多谢大牛，在网上看到这个：
When an employee resigns, it's common for the employer to counter with
another offer in order to persuade the employee to stay. It takes a lot of
time and money for a company to find and replace valuable staff, so unless
the decision is mutual, the company will want to do what it can to retain
the employee. Given today's tough job market, who wouldn't want to be in a
situation where two companies want you? Yet the counteroffer can often
create more problems than it can solve.
Bing: Tips on negotiating a better job offer
When human-resources professionals and recruiters were asked whether
accepting a counteroffer is ever a good idea, most replied with a resounding
"no." A few cases were made for taking a counteroffer, but only if done so
for the right reasons and in the right way.
"Recognizing all situations are unique and there is no 'one size fits all'
answer, the potentially departing employee needs to consider a number of
things when faced with this scenario," says Fred R. Cooper, managing partner
at Compass HR Consulting.
Why accepting a counteroffer may backfire
You may lose trust. By telling your employer you've either been offered or
accepted another position, you're essentially saying you've been unhappy. So
even if your company does counter, how can it trust that you won't
eventually stray again?
"By resigning, you've severed the bond of trust with your company," says
Judi Perkins, career coach and founder of Find the Perfect Job. "It's like
catching your partner cheating. There will always be that bit of doubt. You'
ll eventually leave the company, but next time it will be on their terms,
not yours."
Elene Cafasso, president at executive coaching firm Enerpace Inc., agrees,
saying, "You could be seen as a 'short timer' and be passed up for
promotions, the best projects, etc. Your current employer may just counter [
the] offer to keep you around long enough to get your replacement identified
and trained."
You can burn bridges. Just as threatening to resign can leave a bad taste in
your current employer's mouth, going back on an offer you accepted from
another company can sour its view of you as well. Even if your acceptance
was oral, it's still viewed as an agreement between you and the company. If
you decide to stay put but things don't get better, you've burned a bridge
with a company that may have been a better fit.
"If the hiring company has released the other candidates and announced your
imminent arrival -- that you then renege on -- you just ruined your
reputation with [a] top-rate company in your industry," Perkins says.
Your problem won't necessarily be solved. "If the person accepts the
counteroffer and stays with their current employer, there is better than an
85 percent chance that the person will leave the company within six months,"
says Alan Fluhrer, CEO of recruiting firm Fluhrer & Bridges. "This is due
to the fact that the underlying issues have not been resolved."
It shouldn't take a counteroffer to get what you want. It's rarely a good
idea to look for a new job for the sole purpose of using it as a bargaining
tool with your current company. Not only does that send the wrong message,
but it shouldn't take you threatening to leave for your employer to see your
value. "What does it say about your current employer if you have to
basically blackmail them to get a fair salary, recognition and/or
opportunities for advancement? Why would you want to stay?" Cafasso says.
You accepted the original offer for a reason. If you've accepted an offer
from another company, you've likely done so after much contemplation and for
a variety of reasons. Some may have to do with issues you're having at your
current company, while others may be because you see opportunity at the new
company. Cooper suggests thinking about the situation like this: "With this
new job, I've made 'the cut': I'm the one they want. I've researched the
company and its culture and it is someplace I want to be. I want this new
opportunity for all the things offered and more -- it provides the financial
, emotional, cultural and/or other things missing in my current employment."
When a counteroffer is worth considering
"Obviously each situation is different, but certainly accepting a
counteroffer can be very appropriate, if it addresses the 'itch' that caused
you to look at alternatives in the first place," says John Millikin,
clinical professor of management at Arizona State University's W.P. Carey
School of Business. "People tend to listen [to executive search calls] when
they are unhappy with current assignments, feel blocked on advancement, have
issues with their own management, etc. A successful counteroffer needs to
address these concerns, as well."
When it comes to burning bridges with the company from which you accepted an
offer, Millikin says there is always that chance. "You can, however,
mitigate some of that by simply being as transparent [with the hiring
company] as possible. If you were candid about why you might leave, it is
easier to tell a convincing story about how your current employer truly
addressed the concern."
Addressing the issues head-on
While the answer to whether you should accept a counteroffer isn't black and
white, perhaps the best approach is to address the issues you're having at
your current company before they get so bad they drive you to leave. If you
tell your manager and nothing improves, then you'll never wonder whether
things would have gotten better. You can move on to your next opportunity
without looking back. | t*****n
发帖数: 4908 | 12 不错，就是好长。。。
【在 b*******l 的大作中提到】
: 多谢大牛，在网上看到这个：
: When an employee resigns, it's common for the employer to counter with
: another offer in order to persuade the employee to stay. It takes a lot of
: time and money for a company to find and replace valuable staff, so unless
: the decision is mutual, the company will want to do what it can to retain
: the employee. Given today's tough job market, who wouldn't want to be in a
: situation where two companies want you? Yet the counteroffer can often
: create more problems than it can solve.
: Bing: Tips on negotiating a better job offer
: When human-resources professionals and recruiters were asked whether
| k**n
发帖数: 3989 | 13 我的经历是可以接。没事。。特别是中小公司。。留住能干活的人不容易。 | f*******e
发帖数: 4531 | 14 我所知道的一些小公司确实找人不容易，大中型公司难说。
最主要的问题还是信任流失，对今后的发展不利，特别是纯粹因为收入打算跳槽的。
【在 k**n 的大作中提到】
: 我的经历是可以接。没事。。特别是中小公司。。留住能干活的人不容易。
| p********r
发帖数: 1465 | | b**u
发帖数: 2761 | 16 zan
【在 b*******l 的大作中提到】
: 多谢大牛，在网上看到这个：
: When an employee resigns, it's common for the employer to counter with
: another offer in order to persuade the employee to stay. It takes a lot of
: time and money for a company to find and replace valuable staff, so unless
: the decision is mutual, the company will want to do what it can to retain
: the employee. Given today's tough job market, who wouldn't want to be in a
: situation where two companies want you? Yet the counteroffer can often
: create more problems than it can solve.
: Bing: Tips on negotiating a better job offer
: When human-resources professionals and recruiters were asked whether
| m****e
发帖数: 404 | 17 if your company wants to keep you, they might hire you back when you are not
feeling comfortable in your new job. You can try this to get real value in
your boss' heart. | J*******n
发帖数: 2901 | 18 有卡的可以反复考量再决定，没卡肯定不能接，万一秋后被裁，上哪赶紧找份好工作去 | G********r
发帖数: 3161 | 19 同意这个，另外就是楼上说的，你接的时候一定要对自己在现在公司的位置有个清楚的
认识，如果你是大拿，公司非你不行，或是客户就对你满意，无人可替代，绝对可以接
，如果不是，那还是小心被秋后算帐。我去年拿了Counter，主要是我老板挺我，不想
让我走，而且新公司的Offer也不是特别特别的好，我就借机涨了一把工资。我一个同
事也是，我们同一个老板，他倒不是老板挺他，就是因为客户亲自跑到我们公司来了。
【在 J*******n 的大作中提到】
: 有卡的可以反复考量再决定，没卡肯定不能接，万一秋后被裁，上哪赶紧找份好工作去
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