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j****n
发帖数: 4358
1
而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
道教是不是更大度一些呢?
c***h
发帖数: 2262
2

我也常听到这样的话
佛教贬低别人的可多了
佛陀说自己悟到的境界如何伟大,是最高的,最…..
与其它宗教做严格区分,也就是当时婆罗门教,六师外道等
当然,这就是表示佛陀所悟,是高于其宗教、其它修行人。
这样骄不骄傲,排不排外,气度小不小?
佛陀会说他与其它宗教所悟一样吗? 应该不会。

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

d******e
发帖数: 4192
3
佛陀并没有把他所知道的一切都讲出来,区区四十九年不够的.
也没有留下文字,留下的只是戒律.
经书都是后来整理的.
后来的人也没人证悟到佛陀的智慧的,不管有多少经书,
各宗派的人怎么可以和佛陀相比呢?
看一个圣人,佛,神,你没办法判别的时候,就看有多少人
说他的不是? 再看说他不是的这些人是怎么回事情.
说他不是的人是否很多,这些人好不好,这就是判断的智慧.

【在 c***h 的大作中提到】
:
: 我也常听到这样的话
: 佛教贬低别人的可多了
: 佛陀说自己悟到的境界如何伟大,是最高的,最…..
: 与其它宗教做严格区分,也就是当时婆罗门教,六师外道等
: 当然,这就是表示佛陀所悟,是高于其宗教、其它修行人。
: 这样骄不骄傲,排不排外,气度小不小?
: 佛陀会说他与其它宗教所悟一样吗? 应该不会。

d******e
发帖数: 4192
4
道家历来都是单传,独传的,形成教派只是近代的事情.

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

S**U
发帖数: 7025
5
天文学家该说天文学与占星术殊途同归,表示大度嘛?
佛陀第一次说法<转法轮经>,就说明四圣谛是佛法的特色。最后对须跋陀罗的开示<
大般涅盘经>,说唯有八正道,才能有正解脱,除此无余道能解脱。
道教没有四圣谛八正道,从佛法看,自然只是人天善法。与大度无关。

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

j****n
发帖数: 4358
6
而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
道教是不是更大度一些呢?
c***h
发帖数: 2262
7

我也常听到这样的话
佛教贬低别人的可多了
佛陀说自己悟到的境界如何伟大,是最高的,最…..
与其它宗教做严格区分,也就是当时婆罗门教,六师外道等
当然,这就是表示佛陀所悟,是高于其宗教、其它修行人。
这样骄不骄傲,排不排外,气度小不小?
佛陀会说他与其它宗教所悟一样吗? 应该不会。

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

d******e
发帖数: 4192
8
佛陀并没有把他所知道的一切都讲出来,区区四十九年不够的.
也没有留下文字,留下的只是戒律.
经书都是后来整理的.
后来的人也没人证悟到佛陀的智慧的,不管有多少经书,
各宗派的人怎么可以和佛陀相比呢?
看一个圣人,佛,神,你没办法判别的时候,就看有多少人
说他的不是? 再看说他不是的这些人是怎么回事情.
说他不是的人是否很多,这些人好不好,这就是判断的智慧.

【在 c***h 的大作中提到】
:
: 我也常听到这样的话
: 佛教贬低别人的可多了
: 佛陀说自己悟到的境界如何伟大,是最高的,最…..
: 与其它宗教做严格区分,也就是当时婆罗门教,六师外道等
: 当然,这就是表示佛陀所悟,是高于其宗教、其它修行人。
: 这样骄不骄傲,排不排外,气度小不小?
: 佛陀会说他与其它宗教所悟一样吗? 应该不会。

d******e
发帖数: 4192
9
道家历来都是单传,独传的,形成教派只是近代的事情.

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

S**U
发帖数: 7025
10
天文学家该说天文学与占星术殊途同归,表示大度嘛?
佛陀第一次说法<转法轮经>,就说明四圣谛是佛法的特色。最后对须跋陀罗的开示<
大般涅盘经>,说唯有八正道,才能有正解脱,除此无余道能解脱。
道教没有四圣谛八正道,从佛法看,自然只是人天善法。与大度无关。

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

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m******2
发帖数: 564
11
本来就要轮回。我有几个朋友就是轮回的神仙。
但是净土宗太能吹了,禅宗罗汉还要轮回七次呢,他们念个啥就能直接成罗汉,不用轮
回,基本把神仙罗汉都秒杀了。
J******s
发帖数: 7538
12
If 成罗汉 is so easy, why should we suffer in 轮回?

【在 m******2 的大作中提到】
: 本来就要轮回。我有几个朋友就是轮回的神仙。
: 但是净土宗太能吹了,禅宗罗汉还要轮回七次呢,他们念个啥就能直接成罗汉,不用轮
: 回,基本把神仙罗汉都秒杀了。

P****S
发帖数: 2286
13
“道冠儒履佛袈裟,
和会三家作一家;
忘却率陀天上路,
痴坐双林待龙华。”

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

j****n
发帖数: 4358
14
你这也是从佛教的角度,道教也说了如果成仙不能超越轮回,则仙家不足以为贵。(当
然这里的仙和佛教的仙不一样),并且道教讲究与世无争,所以争的结果就是把自己降
低一个档次。

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: 天文学家该说天文学与占星术殊途同归,表示大度嘛?
: 佛陀第一次说法<转法轮经>,就说明四圣谛是佛法的特色。最后对须跋陀罗的开示<
: 大般涅盘经>,说唯有八正道,才能有正解脱,除此无余道能解脱。
: 道教没有四圣谛八正道,从佛法看,自然只是人天善法。与大度无关。

S**U
发帖数: 7025
15
It is normal for 佛教从佛教的角度 to see things. 与世无争, IMO, doesn't mean you have to accept everyone's view, nor keeping silent. 'I have no views', or 'all ways lead to liberation' is a view in itself. You can say whatever your views are, and still be 与世无争.
与世争 is thinking people should see things the way you see, and arguing with/forcing people to accept your view if they don't. I think that 争把自己降低一个档次。

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这也是从佛教的角度,道教也说了如果成仙不能超越轮回,则仙家不足以为贵。(当
: 然这里的仙和佛教的仙不一样),并且道教讲究与世无争,所以争的结果就是把自己降
: 低一个档次。

b**d
发帖数: 7644
16
Come on. Just as Christians saying whoever do not believe in God will go to
hell. Buddhists in fact believe whoever do not practise buddhism will
suffer. Both are kind of threatening. That is why I like Taoism. They
pursue the truth of the universe. They practise to be eternal. They are not
sure what they can achieve, but no threatenings.

mean
,

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: It is normal for 佛教从佛教的角度 to see things. 与世无争, IMO, doesn't mean you have to accept everyone's view, nor keeping silent. 'I have no views', or 'all ways lead to liberation' is a view in itself. You can say whatever your views are, and still be 与世无争.
: 与世争 is thinking people should see things the way you see, and arguing with/forcing people to accept your view if they don't. I think that 争把自己降低一个档次。

S**U
发帖数: 7025
17
When doctors tell you that eating a diet high in saturated fat will increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so. What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and consequences.
Being uncertain is fine, but that is a sign of ignorance of truth. The Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't
think so.

to
not

【在 b**d 的大作中提到】
: Come on. Just as Christians saying whoever do not believe in God will go to
: hell. Buddhists in fact believe whoever do not practise buddhism will
: suffer. Both are kind of threatening. That is why I like Taoism. They
: pursue the truth of the universe. They practise to be eternal. They are not
: sure what they can achieve, but no threatenings.
:
: mean
: ,

b**d
发帖数: 7644
18
You assumed you were right when you said that buddha is like a doctor. Just
as the Christians always thought they were right and Jesus is the savior in
the first place too. Both are telling people, if you do not do this and
this, you will be screwed. Then, how will normal human beings make a choice
. Both ways require big investment of time and energy, and a lot of times
money too.
Anyhow, I do not want to argue with you. All I am saying is that Buddhism is
not necessarily the truth. At least nobody on this board has verified it
yet. And in fact very few people in this world verified it. While a lot of
Christians claimed to talk to God everyday.

increase

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: When doctors tell you that eating a diet high in saturated fat will increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so. What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and consequences.
: Being uncertain is fine, but that is a sign of ignorance of truth. The Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't
: think so.
:
: to
: not

P****S
发帖数: 2286
19
如果某人说道门里只有人天善法,那就应该请他/她说一说道门里最高的法是什么?我
反正是不知道。不知这个版上有没有人知道。

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 而道教说跟佛教是殊途同归
: 道教是不是更大度一些呢?

w*********r
发帖数: 2192
20
Doctors's words are based on statistical and clinical data.
This is the difference between faith and science.
Buddhism needs to provide concrete data on how many people can be liberated
from lunhui after practicing Buddhism.

increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so.
What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and
consequences.
Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for
themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: When doctors tell you that eating a diet high in saturated fat will increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so. What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and consequences.
: Being uncertain is fine, but that is a sign of ignorance of truth. The Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't
: think so.
:
: to
: not

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w*********r
发帖数: 2192
21
agree.

Just
in
choice
is

【在 b**d 的大作中提到】
: You assumed you were right when you said that buddha is like a doctor. Just
: as the Christians always thought they were right and Jesus is the savior in
: the first place too. Both are telling people, if you do not do this and
: this, you will be screwed. Then, how will normal human beings make a choice
: . Both ways require big investment of time and energy, and a lot of times
: money too.
: Anyhow, I do not want to argue with you. All I am saying is that Buddhism is
: not necessarily the truth. At least nobody on this board has verified it
: yet. And in fact very few people in this world verified it. While a lot of
: Christians claimed to talk to God everyday.

b*****x
发帖数: 1327
22
不是不争--无为而无不为

【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这也是从佛教的角度,道教也说了如果成仙不能超越轮回,则仙家不足以为贵。(当
: 然这里的仙和佛教的仙不一样),并且道教讲究与世无争,所以争的结果就是把自己降
: 低一个档次。

J******s
发帖数: 7538
23
good

mean you have to accept everyone's view, nor keeping silent. 'I have no
views', or 'all ways lead to liberation' is a view in itself. You can say
whatever your views are, and sti
with/forcing people to accept your view if they don't. I think that 争把自己
降低一个档次。

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: It is normal for 佛教从佛教的角度 to see things. 与世无争, IMO, doesn't mean you have to accept everyone's view, nor keeping silent. 'I have no views', or 'all ways lead to liberation' is a view in itself. You can say whatever your views are, and still be 与世无争.
: 与世争 is thinking people should see things the way you see, and arguing with/forcing people to accept your view if they don't. I think that 争把自己降低一个档次。

G**W
发帖数: 1865
24
Good points.

increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so.
What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and
consequences.
Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for
themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: When doctors tell you that eating a diet high in saturated fat will increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so. What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and consequences.
: Being uncertain is fine, but that is a sign of ignorance of truth. The Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't
: think so.
:
: to
: not

b******1
发帖数: 281
25
Good

【在 b**d 的大作中提到】
: You assumed you were right when you said that buddha is like a doctor. Just
: as the Christians always thought they were right and Jesus is the savior in
: the first place too. Both are telling people, if you do not do this and
: this, you will be screwed. Then, how will normal human beings make a choice
: . Both ways require big investment of time and energy, and a lot of times
: money too.
: Anyhow, I do not want to argue with you. All I am saying is that Buddhism is
: not necessarily the truth. At least nobody on this board has verified it
: yet. And in fact very few people in this world verified it. While a lot of
: Christians claimed to talk to God everyday.

l*****g
发帖数: 1066
26

good.

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: 天文学家该说天文学与占星术殊途同归,表示大度嘛?
: 佛陀第一次说法<转法轮经>,就说明四圣谛是佛法的特色。最后对须跋陀罗的开示<
: 大般涅盘经>,说唯有八正道,才能有正解脱,除此无余道能解脱。
: 道教没有四圣谛八正道,从佛法看,自然只是人天善法。与大度无关。

l*****g
发帖数: 1066
27

mean you have to accept everyone's view, nor keeping silent. 'I have no
views', or 'all ways lead to liberation' is a view in itself. You can say
whatever your views are, and still be 与世无争.
with/forcing people to accept your view if they don't. I think that 争把自己
降低一个档次。
good.

【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: It is normal for 佛教从佛教的角度 to see things. 与世无争, IMO, doesn't mean you have to accept everyone's view, nor keeping silent. 'I have no views', or 'all ways lead to liberation' is a view in itself. You can say whatever your views are, and still be 与世无争.
: 与世争 is thinking people should see things the way you see, and arguing with/forcing people to accept your view if they don't. I think that 争把自己降低一个档次。

l*****g
发帖数: 1066
28

and
good.

【在 G**W 的大作中提到】
: Good points.
:
: increase your chance of heart attack, is that a threat? I don't think so.
: What matters is what causal relationships actually exist between actions and
: consequences.
: Buddha told people to see the truth (the four noble truths) directly for
: themselves and abandon doubt. Is there a better way to be certain? I don't

b******1
发帖数: 281
29
好像很道貌岸然的样子。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: and
: good.

b******1
发帖数: 281
30
好像也很道貌岸然的样子吧。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: and
: good.

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b******1
发帖数: 281
31
good

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: and
: good.

l*****g
发帖数: 1066
32

我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。

【在 b******1 的大作中提到】
: 好像很道貌岸然的样子。
b******1
发帖数: 281
33
Good.
我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。

b******1
发帖数: 281
34
Good.
我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。

l*****g
发帖数: 1066
35

我打算好好回seeU的贴。总不能还删吧。

【在 b******1 的大作中提到】
: Good.
: 我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。

b******1
发帖数: 281
36
Good.
我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。
对了,多少帖子才不用验证码?

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我打算好好回seeU的贴。总不能还删吧。

b******1
发帖数: 281
37
Good

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我打算好好回seeU的贴。总不能还删吧。

l*****g
发帖数: 1066
38

不知道。几百?

【在 b******1 的大作中提到】
: Good.
: 我不回你的帖子,回了就被删。
: 对了,多少帖子才不用验证码?

b******1
发帖数: 281
39
good

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
:
: 不知道。几百?

G**W
发帖数: 1865
40
Assume if I told you that I have already verified it, would you beleive what
I say ?
This is something very funny about what you say here : You can't verified
things yourself
and you assume nobody can verified anything. Isn't that pretty stupid ?
You can't read and you assume nobody can read in the world ?

Anyhow, I do not want to argue with you. All I am saying is

【在 b******1 的大作中提到】
: Good
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Good

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【在 b**d 的大作中提到】
: You assumed you were right when you said that buddha is like a doctor. Just
: as the Christians always thought they were right and Jesus is the savior in
: the first place too. Both are telling people, if you do not do this and
: this, you will be screwed. Then, how will normal human beings make a choice
: . Both ways require big investment of time and energy, and a lot of times
: money too.
: Anyhow, I do not want to argue with you. All I am saying is that Buddhism is
: not necessarily the truth. At least nobody on this board has verified it
: yet. And in fact very few people in this world verified it. While a lot of
: Christians claimed to talk to God everyday.

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