h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 1 从今以后再也不炒，误工且亏钱，以后再炒就把自己十指给剁了。
立贴为证。 |
l****q
发帖数: 404 | 2 呵呵，立贴为证估计不够，可以删掉重来的。把钱花在别的地方，没钱买了估计可以抑
制。天气好，别郁闷了，出去锻炼身体吧！ |
m**t
发帖数: 1292 | |
h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 4 都卖了，明天打电话关户，从此不碰股票了。TNND。 |
g*******n
发帖数: 12458 | 5 现在卖了不是亏大了吗?现在是不是应该抄底?
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 都卖了，明天打电话关户，从此不碰股票了。TNND。
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z***y
发帖数: 7151 | 6 花街大佬 include ex Banzhu?
【在 m**t 的大作中提到】
: 节哀顺便，会回来的。 被花街大佬xx 而已
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 7 highly possible. he did not showup recently. might be hiding somewhere and
count his $...
【在 z***y 的大作中提到】
: 花街大佬 include ex Banzhu?
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | |
s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 9 You should not quit if you have the time to follow the market.
Volatile market right now can be very beneficial if you actually spend time
doing the trade.
I only have small percentage of my investment in the stock market, but
recently I was able to make a lot of money by just doing a few tradings per
day. Since the beginning of August, the most I made in one day is up 2.8%,
year to date, my total investment in stock is up by 31% (most of the gain is
last few weeks when I am paying more attention and doing the trading)
I wish market can go up and down a lot like this forever.
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 从今以后再也不炒，误工且亏钱，以后再炒就把自己十指给剁了。
: 立贴为证。
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 10 yeah, rub it in real nice and slow.... |
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z***y
发帖数: 7151 | 11 想炒股，找深蓝！
time
per
is
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: You should not quit if you have the time to follow the market.
: Volatile market right now can be very beneficial if you actually spend time
: doing the trade.
: I only have small percentage of my investment in the stock market, but
: recently I was able to make a lot of money by just doing a few tradings per
: day. Since the beginning of August, the most I made in one day is up 2.8%,
: year to date, my total investment in stock is up by 31% (most of the gain is
: last few weeks when I am paying more attention and doing the trading)
: I wish market can go up and down a lot like this forever.
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 12 我现在工作不务正业，不思进取，非常不productive的一个employee，炒股时间很多。
我怕最后不但没挣到钱，还丢了饭碗。
time
per
is
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: You should not quit if you have the time to follow the market.
: Volatile market right now can be very beneficial if you actually spend time
: doing the trade.
: I only have small percentage of my investment in the stock market, but
: recently I was able to make a lot of money by just doing a few tradings per
: day. Since the beginning of August, the most I made in one day is up 2.8%,
: year to date, my total investment in stock is up by 31% (most of the gain is
: last few weeks when I am paying more attention and doing the trading)
: I wish market can go up and down a lot like this forever.
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x**********3
发帖数: 1572 | 13 完全同意， 这我几年前就琢磨明白了， 股票不是人玩的。 股票玩得转的人基本都不
是人了。 所以我放弃股票改打POKER。 反正都是花时间+输钱， 至少痛快了一把。另
外手指千万不能剁， 不然打牌都不行了。
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 从今以后再也不炒，误工且亏钱，以后再炒就把自己十指给剁了。
: 立贴为证。
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m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 14 除非你有内部消息，或者真正抓住了庄家的TRADING PATTERN，否则，短炒基本上是靠
运气。
而中长期是有些规律可寻的。如果抓住了，跑赢大盘还是比较容易的。
可能DAY TRADER不同意我的看法。不过，十几年过来，我认识的一直在做DAY TRADING
的，只剩下三个。真正发了的，只有一个。我的采样范围是300-400人。
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我现在工作不务正业，不思进取，非常不productive的一个employee，炒股时间很多。
: 我怕最后不但没挣到钱，还丢了饭碗。
:
: time
: per
: is
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 15 是深蓝吗？
哎，挣到钱真好，我就没这运气了，每天回家只能拿着擦桌布默默得擦眼泪。
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】
: 除非你有内部消息，或者真正抓住了庄家的TRADING PATTERN，否则，短炒基本上是靠
: 运气。
: 而中长期是有些规律可寻的。如果抓住了，跑赢大盘还是比较容易的。
: 可能DAY TRADER不同意我的看法。不过，十几年过来，我认识的一直在做DAY TRADING
: 的，只剩下三个。真正发了的，只有一个。我的采样范围是300-400人。
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 16 那还不赶紧的拜师？
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 是深蓝吗？
: 哎，挣到钱真好，我就没这运气了，每天回家只能拿着擦桌布默默得擦眼泪。
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 17 拜师没用的，这炒股学不来的，每个人的trading style不一样，每个人应该自己琢磨找到适合自己
的trading style。别人的trading style不一定适合我的，就好像有些人喜欢追高，有些人喜欢
抄底；有些人喜欢买低卖高，有些人喜欢买高卖低。
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 那还不赶紧的拜师？
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 18 你早点发这个贴就好了。
【在 x**********3 的大作中提到】
: 完全同意， 这我几年前就琢磨明白了， 股票不是人玩的。 股票玩得转的人基本都不
: 是人了。 所以我放弃股票改打POKER。 反正都是花时间+输钱， 至少痛快了一把。另
: 外手指千万不能剁， 不然打牌都不行了。
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m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 19 Sorry, I do not know 深蓝.
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 是深蓝吗？
: 哎，挣到钱真好，我就没这运气了，每天回家只能拿着擦桌布默默得擦眼泪。
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 20 I agree, and luck also play some part.
But when market move a lot now, I kind of just follow the trend.
Luckily, I only lost money on 3 trades this year (out of nearly 1,000 trades)
磨找到适合自己
有些人喜欢
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 拜师没用的，这炒股学不来的，每个人的trading style不一样，每个人应该自己琢磨找到适合自己
: 的trading style。别人的trading style不一定适合我的，就好像有些人喜欢追高，有些人喜欢
: 抄底；有些人喜欢买低卖高，有些人喜欢买高卖低。
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 21 原来你还是股神啊
trades)
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I agree, and luck also play some part.
: But when market move a lot now, I kind of just follow the trend.
: Luckily, I only lost money on 3 trades this year (out of nearly 1,000 trades)
:
: 磨找到适合自己
: 有些人喜欢
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 22 Not try to rub it in, just try to encourge the person not to give up so easy
if he/she have the time to spend on research and study the market.
LD also rub it in yesterday, saying if I had more money in the trading
account, I would be able to get him the Huayra he really wanted for his
birthday, but now I can only get him a LFA (his last choice) after paying
uncle sam (short term taxes) on our gain.
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: yeah, rub it in real nice and slow....
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m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 23 人家海漂刚上岸，你又想把他给再推下去。
easy
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: Not try to rub it in, just try to encourge the person not to give up so easy
: if he/she have the time to spend on research and study the market.
: LD also rub it in yesterday, saying if I had more money in the trading
: account, I would be able to get him the Huayra he really wanted for his
: birthday, but now I can only get him a LFA (his last choice) after paying
: uncle sam (short term taxes) on our gain.
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 24 海飘直接把钱投给股神让股神给做吧,即使让她收5-50的fee，也还是很有赚头的。
她的业绩比什么renaissance，buffet都强好几个量级呢
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】
: 人家海漂刚上岸，你又想把他给再推下去。
:
: easy
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m*******r
发帖数: 8950 | 25 AGREE！建议囡囡去股版介绍经验。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 原来你还是股神啊
:
: trades)
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 26 I only had a very small amount of money in the market to try my luck, I
guess I was kind of lucky, not much experience to share.
I think most people in 股版 have a lot more experience or time to play the
stocks.
My goal at the beginning to this year is to make enough gain to buy LD
another car for his birthday (small and realistic goal)
My only advice based my observation of some of the other Chinese people that
are into stocks is this: "They all know when to buy, but very few knows
when to sell"
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】
: AGREE！建议囡囡去股版介绍经验。
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 27 1000个trade只输3个，这个要么是超级强力insider trade，要么你就是上帝附身，或
者穿越回来的
that
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I only had a very small amount of money in the market to try my luck, I
: guess I was kind of lucky, not much experience to share.
: I think most people in 股版 have a lot more experience or time to play the
: stocks.
: My goal at the beginning to this year is to make enough gain to buy LD
: another car for his birthday (small and realistic goal)
: My only advice based my observation of some of the other Chinese people that
: are into stocks is this: "They all know when to buy, but very few knows
: when to sell"
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 28 嗯，偶看股版12年还没有任何一个人能做到这个的1/10水平。特别是今年这个
市场。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 1000个trade只输3个，这个要么是超级强力insider trade，要么你就是上帝附身，或
: 者穿越回来的
:
: that
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 29 给个数据参考一下：
你号称最近是做trend following的
做trend following的非常成功的系统，一般的输赢比例也就能达到40:60，赢40次，输
60次。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 1000个trade只输3个，这个要么是超级强力insider trade，要么你就是上帝附身，或
: 者穿越回来的
:
: that
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 30 It is easy to do good when you only deal with small amount of money in the
market.
People like Buffett have billions and billions of money, they can not buy
the same thing like I do, if they did, their trasaction (even using 1% of
their money) would affected that stock way too much.
Manage large amount the money is not so easy, because you can only move a
small amount at a time, that is why they can never have the same return as
me. (I am free to move 100% of my money around anytime and would not affect
the market a bit at all)
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 海飘直接把钱投给股神让股神给做吧,即使让她收5-50的fee，也还是很有赚头的。
: 她的业绩比什么renaissance，buffet都强好几个量级呢
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 31 她说她没很多时间做trade的，所以估计不是high frequency
这种尺度的trade，别说1/10了，就是能做到1/100，也就是1000个trade输300个，那已
经是专业级水平了，再加个常用的risk management和money management，就可以去开
个fund，绝对是大家抢着往里进钱了，收个5-50的fee一点问题都不会有
算小一点，开个500M的fund，一年5%的management fee，那就是25M，每个月都可以给
LG买个1M一个的车玩
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，偶看股版12年还没有任何一个人能做到这个的1/10水平。特别是今年这个
: 市场。
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 32 偶觉得shning的这个水平要不trigger SEC调查，就是政府的失职。 :)
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 给个数据参考一下：
: 你号称最近是做trend following的
: 做trend following的非常成功的系统，一般的输赢比例也就能达到40:60，赢40次，输
: 60次。
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 33 你开个500M的fund，我来帮你操作好了，没问题的。分我1/3你的management fee，我
就满足了。嗯，要求不高
affect
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: It is easy to do good when you only deal with small amount of money in the
: market.
: People like Buffett have billions and billions of money, they can not buy
: the same thing like I do, if they did, their trasaction (even using 1% of
: their money) would affected that stock way too much.
: Manage large amount the money is not so easy, because you can only move a
: small amount at a time, that is why they can never have the same return as
: me. (I am free to move 100% of my money around anytime and would not affect
: the market a bit at all)
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 34 真正的系统里大多数单子都是亏了止损的，要不然就不是risk control了。
当年peter@huaren每天做几十单，大多数都止损了。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 她说她没很多时间做trade的，所以估计不是high frequency
: 这种尺度的trade，别说1/10了，就是能做到1/100，也就是1000个trade输300个，那已
: 经是专业级水平了，再加个常用的risk management和money management，就可以去开
: 个fund，绝对是大家抢着往里进钱了，收个5-50的fee一点问题都不会有
: 算小一点，开个500M的fund，一年5%的management fee，那就是25M，每个月都可以给
: LG买个1M一个的车玩
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 35 I don't think I have use any inside information (at least there is no way to
prove it)
Most of the gain came from shorting a few stocks when the 股票又跌得像屎.
But onething for sure is I am not greedy, once I made enough on the trade (
sometime just an hour later), I liquid back to cash.
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 偶觉得shning的这个水平要不trigger SEC调查，就是政府的失职。 :)
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 36 这个人的系统听起来还是很靠谱的。
如果是trend following，研究表明，profit taking是不可取的
基本上是个trade，都以stop loss收尾。
trend-following能work，不在于命中率，而在于cut losses and let winners run
如果进错了，就及早cut loss
进对方向了，就死咬不放，争取利益最大化。
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 真正的系统里大多数单子都是亏了止损的，要不然就不是risk control了。
: 当年peter@huaren每天做几十单，大多数都止损了。
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 37 就这么几个星期，就做了1000个trade
算是最近的这3个星期的大跌，也就15个交易日
一天接近100个trade，还说不怎么做trade，太谦虚了
to
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I don't think I have use any inside information (at least there is no way to
: prove it)
: Most of the gain came from shorting a few stocks when the 股票又跌得像屎.
: But onething for sure is I am not greedy, once I made enough on the trade (
: sometime just an hour later), I liquid back to cash.
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 38 嗯，这个大牛当年号称从不option, 从不short。悔不听他的话呀。。。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 这个人的系统听起来还是很靠谱的。
: 如果是trend following，研究表明，profit taking是不可取的
: 基本上是个trade，都以stop loss收尾。
: trend-following能work，不在于命中率，而在于cut losses and let winners run
: 如果进错了，就及早cut loss
: 进对方向了，就死咬不放，争取利益最大化。
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 39 option一般人绝对不能碰，除非你研究很清楚，能够确认没有被overprice
而且必须有很好的exit strategy，option的exit window是很小的。
short的话，也得很小心，一般股票涨和跌是不对称的，涨的比较慢，跌的比较狠
慢慢涨的时候，大家有很多机会可以进。跌的时候，那个跌的窗口很不好抓。
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，这个大牛当年号称从不option, 从不short。悔不听他的话呀。。。
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 40 I did look into stop loss before, turns out when the market is moving very
fast, stop loss does not work that well.
Say you bought the stock for $10 a share, you set up a sell at $9.50 a share
if going the wrong direction and cut your loss at $0.50 per share.
This works when the market moves slow and steady, but in today's fast moving
market, by the time you put in the sell trade, the stock may only be $8.00
a sharel, your loss is $2 per share instead of the $0.50 you designed it for.
I find shorting the stock for few hours when it is going down fast is the
best way to make money. (this obviously would not work when you have lots of
money to play)
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 这个人的系统听起来还是很靠谱的。
: 如果是trend following，研究表明，profit taking是不可取的
: 基本上是个trade，都以stop loss收尾。
: trend-following能work，不在于命中率，而在于cut losses and let winners run
: 如果进错了，就及早cut loss
: 进对方向了，就死咬不放，争取利益最大化。
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 41 他的第三条是几分钱就止损。当年他在ML开的户，好像是无限次trading, 一年10万还
是8万左右的flat fee. 这几条缺一不可呀。呵呵。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: option一般人绝对不能碰，除非你研究很清楚，能够确认没有被overprice
: 而且必须有很好的exit strategy，option的exit window是很小的。
: short的话，也得很小心，一般股票涨和跌是不对称的，涨的比较慢，跌的比较狠
: 慢慢涨的时候，大家有很多机会可以进。跌的时候，那个跌的窗口很不好抓。
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | |
S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 43 9.50 -> 8.00 without triggering your stop order in between
You meant flash crash, right?
If the price does crash within seconds,how do you catch it with such high
accuracy?
share
moving
00
for.
of
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I did look into stop loss before, turns out when the market is moving very
: fast, stop loss does not work that well.
: Say you bought the stock for $10 a share, you set up a sell at $9.50 a share
: if going the wrong direction and cut your loss at $0.50 per share.
: This works when the market moves slow and steady, but in today's fast moving
: market, by the time you put in the sell trade, the stock may only be $8.00
: a sharel, your loss is $2 per share instead of the $0.50 you designed it for.
: I find shorting the stock for few hours when it is going down fast is the
: best way to make money. (this obviously would not work when you have lots of
: money to play)
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 44 偶在想15尺高的地下室是什么样子。。。 你们有见过吗？
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 神仙打架，凡人受益。各位继续。
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 45 这是防空洞吧
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 偶在想15尺高的地下室是什么样子。。。 你们有见过吗？
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 46 I don't know, but it did happen to me couple times before and kind of worked
toward my advantage since I am shorting.
I set up sell order at certain dollar amount, but when the trade actually go
through it is like close to $1.50 lower than I set up.
All my 3 losses happen that way too while I was watching, I got them at
upward trending and setup to sell at 5 cents more than I bought them for if
they end up falling, but end up lossing close to $1 per share when the
actual trade took place. (I think because the stock is moving way too fast)
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 9.50 -> 8.00 without triggering your stop order in between
: You meant flash crash, right?
: If the price does crash within seconds,how do you catch it with such high
: accuracy?
:
: share
: moving
: 00
: for.
: of
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 47 哪儿说了有15ft高的地下室？
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 偶在想15尺高的地下室是什么样子。。。 你们有见过吗？
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 48 你trade的是buffet那个一股好几十万的股票吧。
$1.50/share的slippage，那就是150个tick啊，吓死人啊
就这样，你还能赚那么多，真是神迹啊
worked
go
if
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I don't know, but it did happen to me couple times before and kind of worked
: toward my advantage since I am shorting.
: I set up sell order at certain dollar amount, but when the trade actually go
: through it is like close to $1.50 lower than I set up.
: All my 3 losses happen that way too while I was watching, I got them at
: upward trending and setup to sell at 5 cents more than I bought them for if
: they end up falling, but end up lossing close to $1 per share when the
: actual trade took place. (I think because the stock is moving way too fast)
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 49 shning的home theater 在地下室。40尺×15尺的屏幕。
3×6的沙发。
偶见过洛杉矶有人家里有小电影院的。但真没见过能做在地下室的。。。。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 哪儿说了有15ft高的地下室？
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 50 Ceiling height in basement is 16 ft, screen height is 15 ft (cut down from a
larger movie theather screen myself)
Not to bso, but the highest point in main floor ballroom cathedral ceiling
is 48 ft.
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 偶在想15尺高的地下室是什么样子。。。 你们有见过吗？
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 51 我2000年在rochester的时候去过一个3D激光影院
他们的屏幕是在天花板上的，人是躺着看的，很酷很酷，做星空的3D效果跟真的一样
这样做，估计是不错的
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: shning的home theater 在地下室。40尺×15尺的屏幕。
: 3×6的沙发。
: 偶见过洛杉矶有人家里有小电影院的。但真没见过能做在地下室的。。。。
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 52 Could you BSO some pictures? I want to see how you designed the room.
a
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: Ceiling height in basement is 16 ft, screen height is 15 ft (cut down from a
: larger movie theather screen myself)
: Not to bso, but the highest point in main floor ballroom cathedral ceiling
: is 48 ft.
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 53 Yes, we have a seperate safe room in the basement, not sure about the
ceiling height, but less than main area for sure since it was reinforced
with kevlar, steel and lots concrete.
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 这是防空洞吧
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 54 加了多厚的铅板，能防原子弹，氢弹不？
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: Yes, we have a seperate safe room in the basement, not sure about the
: ceiling height, but less than main area for sure since it was reinforced
: with kevlar, steel and lots concrete.
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 55 教堂？偶还真没见过4层楼高的中庭。偶刚才看了mclean几个>10M的房子，
中庭似乎也没有超过40尺的。
a
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: Ceiling height in basement is 16 ft, screen height is 15 ft (cut down from a
: larger movie theather screen myself)
: Not to bso, but the highest point in main floor ballroom cathedral ceiling
: is 48 ft.
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 56 三防工事偶知道，要防百万吨氢弹1000米高度爆头，需要16米的钢筋混凝土。
土共的长城工程山头上是500-1000米的花岗岩，就是让老美知道地方也没法炸。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 加了多厚的铅板，能防原子弹，氢弹不？
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 57 Don't want to on this board, but if you can come to one of parties in the
future, I would be happy to demo the home theather (it is a work in progress
) to you.
I need to decide if want to get a new digital projector or retube the older
ones I got.
I am also working on the acoustic of the room right now, turning it into "
golden ratio". That ratio is one which is the room width of 1.6 times the
height and the length being 2.6 times the room height.
Since I can not change the height of the room very easy, I am building
couple walls to enclose the area, I will also go to a smaller screen with
new digital projector (maybe), and build a little stage for my daughters and
their friends to play on.
The room is a mess right now, as I was put in the 18 tactile transducers
under the subfloor of the seats and rewire the whole place (mainly to
upgrade to better speaker wire)
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: Could you BSO some pictures? I want to see how you designed the room.
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: a
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 58 what do you need tactile transducer for? |
x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 59 你们又教会偶一个新单词。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: what do you need tactile transducer for?
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 60 我也不认识，google的。当解释跃上屏幕的那一刻，mission impossible的音乐在心中
想起。
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 你们又教会偶一个新单词。
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 61 Not sure, never tested it. It was out sourced to some company that build
safe room professionally.
Here are just some basic number if you care to build one yourself or hire
some one to build one below your house.
54 feet below the main house, 1,600 sq ft living area, plus hundreds of more
square feet of passages and secrets rooms I don't want to say.
Min 6 ft thick concrete (18000 psi mix) walls all sides, lots rebar and
other stuff they put in, this thick wall help produce a constant 60F degrees
year round.
4 sump pumps that keep the ground water from being an issue. 3 of the pumps
are for ground water and the other one is for sewage of the bathroom/
kitchenette area.
Fully wired with electrical/phone/plumbing/drains. It also has many secret
doors, and a 1-ton blast door at the entrance and a 3-ton motorized door to
seal you in and close the room to the outside world. There are at least 4
ways to get in/out of the room back into the house!
Air ventilation system including 14 independent openning (in case some got
blocked) that pulls air outside and brings fresh air in, it can filter out
very dirty air.
6 back up generators, tons of food and water to last the whole family for 2
years.
It is designed by me and my kids (they helped with all secrect entrance
ideas), major structure built by contractors, over 80% of the material is
from government surplus and couple old bank vault doors.
Only the peace entrance and main living area is for tour to close friends,
rest is family only.
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 加了多厚的铅板，能防原子弹，氢弹不？
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 62 Basically for bass and to reduce the SPL on subwoofer output to help protect
the ears of my kids.
http://www.baudline.com/erik/bass/tactile_faq.html
I have a 1200 watt amp hooked up to the sub, my kids like to turn them up
pretty high when I am away or upstairs.
The second use is for some to be in the walls that is 180 degree out of
phase to stop the sound travel to other parts of the house.
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: what do you need tactile transducer for?
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 63 嗯，你这个可以防华盛顿正中空爆百万吨级氢弹的了。不过54尺以下建这个水泥壳
很辛苦的，你这个1600sqft的居住条件比联邦政府在蓝岭准备的那个都强太多了
more
degrees
pumps
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: Not sure, never tested it. It was out sourced to some company that build
: safe room professionally.
: Here are just some basic number if you care to build one yourself or hire
: some one to build one below your house.
: 54 feet below the main house, 1,600 sq ft living area, plus hundreds of more
: square feet of passages and secrets rooms I don't want to say.
: Min 6 ft thick concrete (18000 psi mix) walls all sides, lots rebar and
: other stuff they put in, this thick wall help produce a constant 60F degrees
: year round.
: 4 sump pumps that keep the ground water from being an issue. 3 of the pumps
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j***a
发帖数: 10844 | 64 是女的你信，ABC你也信，这个你还信？？？
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 1000个trade只输3个，这个要么是超级强力insider trade，要么你就是上帝附身，或
: 者穿越回来的
:
: that
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 65 整个过程偶们涨了很多知识的。。。
【在 j***a 的大作中提到】
: 是女的你信，ABC你也信，这个你还信？？？
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 66 信啊，怎么不信，我做梦都想搭个股神啊，发财啊
【在 j***a 的大作中提到】
: 是女的你信，ABC你也信，这个你还信？？？
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 67 Is your husband the famous one who build his house like a doomsday bunker
with 3 levels of basement from scratch? And the bottom level is completely
NBC prove with air filter and everything?
more
degrees
pumps
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: Not sure, never tested it. It was out sourced to some company that build
: safe room professionally.
: Here are just some basic number if you care to build one yourself or hire
: some one to build one below your house.
: 54 feet below the main house, 1,600 sq ft living area, plus hundreds of more
: square feet of passages and secrets rooms I don't want to say.
: Min 6 ft thick concrete (18000 psi mix) walls all sides, lots rebar and
: other stuff they put in, this thick wall help produce a constant 60F degrees
: year round.
: 4 sump pumps that keep the ground water from being an issue. 3 of the pumps
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 68 我哪有钱，我的钱还不够人家零头。
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 海飘直接把钱投给股神让股神给做吧,即使让她收5-50的fee，也还是很有赚头的。
: 她的业绩比什么renaissance，buffet都强好几个量级呢
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h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 69 深蓝阿姨，你可不可以不打英文，我看帖时抱着英汉字典翻来翻去，累啊。 |
m****n
发帖数: 886 | 70 一般人哪有吃饱了在家里盖个doomday bunker的。再加上3/1000的股票交易记录，只有
一个解释：shning是穿越客。
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，你这个可以防华盛顿正中空爆百万吨级氢弹的了。不过54尺以下建这个水泥壳
: 很辛苦的，你这个1600sqft的居住条件比联邦政府在蓝岭准备的那个都强太多了
:
: more
: degrees
: pumps
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x**n
发帖数: 12542 | 71 本来shning描绘的生活为偶们展示了一个美好的追求目标，比如4个小孩/后院里投放
300尾草鱼苗/每个厕所大理石正中央装个medallion。。。
不过最近的16尺高地下室/54尺深的doomday bunker等太玄幻了，大家接受起来需要时
间。
如果能慢慢来就好了
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】
: 一般人哪有吃饱了在家里盖个doomday bunker的。再加上3/1000的股票交易记录，只有
: 一个解释：shning是穿越客。
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 72 车库里还有car lift，美国主流社会生活总让我心驰神往。
【在 x**n 的大作中提到】
: 本来shning描绘的生活为偶们展示了一个美好的追求目标，比如4个小孩/后院里投放
: 300尾草鱼苗/每个厕所大理石正中央装个medallion。。。
: 不过最近的16尺高地下室/54尺深的doomday bunker等太玄幻了，大家接受起来需要时
: 间。
: 如果能慢慢来就好了
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s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 73 I don't think so. It it is a dome, but not for doomsday, mainly to protect our family and some of our stuff.
The main reason we build this safe room is from an incident few years ago.
Long story short, our family was robbed at gun point.
I believe this was connected to some bad chinese people (although we did not
see their face), because they can prepared and knows what they want, they
have taken a lot antiques (mostly paintings and some china) that was in our
family for many generations. Luckily they did not know the most valuable
collection was on loan to a museum in Europe just few days before.
We did not insure most of the pieces before, because we do not believe they
worth a lot of money to people outside of our family.
After that incident, we try to add some antiques to the insurance policy, in
order to get a good deal on the policy they suggested us build a safe room
in the house.
My oldest saw the movie panic room with her friend, so she made us watch the
film.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258000/
After that, all the kids are interestd in the designing secret rooms,
they got many ideas online like this:
http://hiddenpassageway.com/
I contacted a firm that specialize in the safe room to help us design a room
under our house, they provide many suggestions for us.
Construction begun a year later in the middle of winter, since our house is
on a slope, it is easy to dig the hole from the side that is roughly a
little over 400 ft away. The reason we choose to do this in winter is
surface ground is already cold, in order to stablize the house on top, we
try to freeze the layer of ground under it, we run pipes of refrigerant
horizontally back and forth to freeze the at least 3 feet of the ground
solid (those pipes later become part of the geothermal system), it took over
3 weeks to freeze the ground and they remain frozen until the first 2
layers of the concrete is sprayed on from inside. I won't go into much more
details, but digging was done using hotwater drill, dirt (I should say mud
is pumped out).
The shape of the space is half a sphere (it is the strongest shape using least
of material and give most of the room inside) The construction from inside
is many layer of concrete with rebar, kevlar and some other material we can
find cheap. we used 18,000 psi shotcrete, me and LD did almost all the work
after the hole is dug, rebar the whole area took almost 1 week each layer.
It is basically build like this:
http://www.monolithic.com/topics/domes
By spring time, we begin wiring and plumbing and slowly move inside, some
large furnitures all have to be carried inside piece by piece and assembled in
the room. (actually everything have to be carried inside by hand since elevator stop
at the basement level)
We did not finish all the inside work until one week before Christmas.
The whole project took 1 year to build, 2 years of research, 3 years of
shopping around (mostly is from government surplus auction and we have find
a way to put them to use), the only big ticket item we have to buy new is
all the concrete.
一个解释：shning是穿越客。
Yes, I predict something big will happen today in DC, if you don't feel lucky, go outdoor.
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: Is your husband the famous one who build his house like a doomsday bunker
: with 3 levels of basement from scratch? And the bottom level is completely
: NBC prove with air filter and everything?
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: more
: degrees
: pumps
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | |
s****g
发帖数: 1028 | 75 I am not 深蓝, I don't remember ever calling myself that name.
I am not sure I am old enough to be your 阿姨 (my youngest is only 2)
I can only 打英文 (copy and paste a few 汉字).
To me 打汉字, 累啊.
I think you can use google translate to read my post if you want to.
Honestly some term in English, I don't know how to say it in Chinese.
If want to live better in a English speaking country, learning the language
well is very important.
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 深蓝阿姨，你可不可以不打英文，我看帖时抱着英汉字典翻来翻去，累啊。
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s*****h
发帖数: 53 | 76 HAHA
language
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I am not 深蓝, I don't remember ever calling myself that name.
: I am not sure I am old enough to be your 阿姨 (my youngest is only 2)
: I can only 打英文 (copy and paste a few 汉字).
: To me 打汉字, 累啊.
: I think you can use google translate to read my post if you want to.
: Honestly some term in English, I don't know how to say it in Chinese.
: If want to live better in a English speaking country, learning the language
: well is very important.
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 77 YEAH~ learn some English, you D*** immigrants!!
深蓝阿姨接着说。 |
h*****o
发帖数: 1476 | 78 in a English speaking country => in an English speaking country
language
【在 s****g 的大作中提到】
: I am not 深蓝, I don't remember ever calling myself that name.
: I am not sure I am old enough to be your 阿姨 (my youngest is only 2)
: I can only 打英文 (copy and paste a few 汉字).
: To me 打汉字, 累啊.
: I think you can use google translate to read my post if you want to.
: Honestly some term in English, I don't know how to say it in Chinese.
: If want to live better in a English speaking country, learning the language
: well is very important.
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 79 赞语法。这句的前面那句有没有问题？
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: in a English speaking country => in an English speaking country
:
: language
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j***a
发帖数: 10844 | 80 If want to live better ... => If you want.......
Better off....
If you want to have a better life .....
I am not 深蓝, I don't remember....=> I am not 深蓝. I don't remember ...
I am not sure I am old enough to be your 阿姨 => I am not sure if .....
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 赞语法。这句的前面那句有没有问题？
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