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发帖数: 813 | 1 又有人开始上门贴纸条募捐了，据说去年是$35起步，今年涨成$50起步最好给$100。
不知道本地华人支持童子军的或者孩子参加童子军的多不多。
报纸上对募捐有报道，全文二楼另贴
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home2/52319345-183/utah-council-sc
486条读者评论.
几个highlights：
1，犹他的童子军是LDS support的，LDS的男孩，绝大部分自动注册成为boy scouters
，所以犹他男童的参军比例远远高于其他州。
2，有摩门诉苦，教堂已经收了十一税了，为什么还要家长另外捐钱
3，有非摩门吐槽，说他儿子去参加童子军被拒，理由是他儿子不去教会
4，有摩门洗地，说这不可能，童子军来者不拒
5，有女人bso，说最喜欢date参加过童子军的男人，shooting，fishing，camping各种
ing都非常专业
6，有打酱油的愤怒，说童子军各council executives的工资太高了。其实我和我的小
伙伴也惊呆了，随便摘抄几段：
Compensation of $148,796 was given in 2009 (the last year data are available
) to Great Salt Lake Council Scout executive Rick Barnes, who replaced
former executive Paul Moore and his $228,174 annual compensation.
In the Provo-based Utah National Parks Council, Scout executive Steve
Royster was paid $169,990 in 2009.
The highest in the nation for similarly sized councils was for Los Angeles
Area Council's Moore, previously of Utah, at $383,488 in 2009.
But that's low compared to Robert J. Mazzuca, the national chief Scout
executive, whose 2009 compensation was $1.21 million.
A Tribune review of Forms 990 for councils nationally that the Boy Scouts
say are similar in size to those in Utah shows that the median full-year
salary for their top executive is $225,908
最后说一句，我们要组建自己的儿童团不？ | L**********n
发帖数: 813 | 2 去年的旧闻
Utah Boy Scouts fundraiser kicks off — with high-pressure tactics
In 2009 amid the recession, the Great Salt Lake Council of the Boy Scouts
saw its revenue plummet nearly $400,000 below projections, forcing it to cut
13 full-time jobs to make ends meet. Income was lower in every category but
one —Â the annual Friends of Scouting drive that seeks donations.
The Friends of Scouting campaign that is successful even in hard times here
is conducted differently in Utah than in most of the nation —Â with
the LDS Church pushing harder for money than in the lower-pressure drives
suggested in national handbooks.
Elsewhere, only families of Scouts are usually targeted, and pleas are often
made to groups instead of individuals. In Utah, bishops and stake
presidents in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are urged to
ask all members for $50 to $100 or more, and armies of Scouts and leaders
are sent to visit every home (including people who are not Mormon) to make
face-to-face appeals.
That annual drive began again on Saturday in much of Utah and will extend
over the next couple of months.
Donations don't go to local Scout troops. Money goes to the administrative
council to operate such things as Scout shops and campgrounds. It also helps
pay some large salaries. Compensation of $148,796 was given in 2009 (the
last year data are available) to Great Salt Lake Council Scout executive
Rick Barnes, who replaced former executive Paul Moore and his $228,174
annual compensation.
In the Provo-based Utah National Parks Council, Scout executive Steve
Royster was paid $169,990 in 2009. In the Ogden-based Trapper Trails Council
, Scout executive Michael Marchese was paid $88,596 for part of a year's
work; he was hired there to replace Barnes. The three councils declined to
make more current salary information available.
The Salt Lake Tribune sought interviews with leaders of local Scout councils
about how the drives are conducted in Utah. Some initially agreed but later
declined. Eventually they asked for questions in writing and responded with
a group statement that gave few specifics. But materials online show more
about what LDS leaders are asked to do and how that compares to national
campaigns.
Drives in other places • A 2010 handbook by the national Boy Scouts
outlines conducting family Friends of Scouting drives that are lower-key
than those conducted in Utah. It says such drives normally target leaders
and parents of Scouts, not every resident in the community or even all in a
sponsoring congregation.
It suggests recruiting volunteers ask each parent for donations, or to have
"a combination of a group presentation at a blue and gold banquet (Cub
Scouts) or a court of honor (Boy Scouts) and a follow-up phone-a-thon."
The handbook also says, "Peer pressure usually leads to trouble in high
school; but in an FOS [Friends of Scouting] campaign, it usually leads to
substantial gifts."
Utah drives • LDS-supported Friends of Scouting drives have found some
unique ways to increase such peer pressure on behalf of Scouts. It includes
having local church leaders suggest specific amounts, and sending people to
knock on every door in every neighborhood to personally ask for money.
A handbook from the Great Salt Lake Council, for example, includes suggested
letters to be given to LDS members from their local stake presidencies (
that oversee a cluster of congregations) and bishoprics (that oversee
individual congregations).
"The donation level that is being asked this year is $50 per household," the
suggested letter for stake presidencies says, adding that any donation is
appreciated. The suggested letter from bishops asks members to consider
giving $100 if possible. It adds, "Anyone with children knows that $50
hardly pays for participating in a single seasonal sport."
The letters add that the church "fully supports the Boy Scout program and
has designated it as an activity arm of the Aaronic Priesthood," for young
males.
Local handbooks call for bishops to announce and support the drive for
several weeks before it begins.
The Tribune asked the three Scout councils with headquarters in Utah if
using bishops and stake presidents to make such pleas may transform a
donation from a voluntary gift to something more akin to an expected
contribution or requirement of active church members.
Their joint written response said, "While church leaders oversee and support
FOS, they do not solicit donations. The church supports the FOS drive by
providing an opportunity for members to contribute, but there are no
donation requirements."
The statement added that suggested letters for stake presidents and bishops
"are jointly developed between the BSA and LDS leaders. The BSA provides a
template that is available and used by most councils nationally and LDS
leaders have the opportunity to personalize and customize the materials
prior to distribution to serve local needs."
The church itself in June issued an updated handbook about its relation to
Scouting. About Friends of Scouting, it says simply, "The Church supports
the annual Friends of Scouting drive. These funds provide financial support
for the local BSA council. Stake presidents and bishops oversee the drive in
their units."
Every home • Local handbooks call for LDS wards to visit every home in
their boundaries, both of members and others, to solicit money. They urge
leaders to arrange enough helpers so that each would need to visit only five
homes, including their own.
Local handbooks also encourage each ward to find two people who give at
least $100 themselves to have the special task of contacting people who also
may be capable of giving that or larger amounts.
Handbooks encourage holding a kickoff event at a local chapel and then
trying to visit all the homes on one day —Â with follow-ups to those
who are not home over the next two months.
Locally made videos on YouTube show recommended sales pitches for money.
They suggest that if people report that they do not have any money available
now, workers should ask them to sign up for automatic monthly withdrawals
from their bank accounts.
The joint statement from local councils says the goal locally "is to give
the opportunity for everyone in the community to support the Scouting
program."
When asked how that evolved locally to be different than the national model
of soliciting just parents of Scouts, the councils replied in the joint
statement by saying, "Every council customizes the template to best meet the
needs of their community. The methods for the Utah councils were developed
jointly by the BSA and LDS Church and are structured very similarly to other
councils across the country."
Of course, not all Scout troops in Utah are sponsored by the LDS Church. But
the Friends of Scouting drives focus on LDS units, including having LDS
stakes gather the collected money. The joint statement says, "Church
structure frequently aligns with BSA structure, so the flow of contributions
really doesn't matter."
Goals or quotas • Financial goals for Friends of Scouting are often
set for local LDS wards and stakes. "These goals are used as an
organizational tool and are not meant to be used as monetary quotas," the
joint statement from the Utah councils says.
It adds, "There are no rewards for meeting, or penalties for missing, goals.
" But that has not always been the case.
Until two years ago in the Great Salt Lake Council, only wards that met
their Friends of Scouting goals were part of the "Gold Club." That entitled
them to a 10 percent discount for council-owned summer camps and 10 percent
off many supplies sold at Scout stores.
The council ended that in 2009, and replaced it with what it said were
overall lower camp fees for all. Some have questioned if the council made up
some money by charging higher activity fees at the camps, including $18 for
an Indian Lore merit badge kit at camps, charging $6 for a paper target and
20 shells for shooting and $6 for a kit to make a simple arrow.
"This information is inaccurate," the joint statement said about possible
higher fees to make up for camp charges that were lower after quotas ended.
"We have worked hard at keeping the cost for camp to a bare minimum because
the camp experience is one of great value to each Scout."
Where money goes/big salaries • Online copies of Great Salt Lake
Council pamphlets going to potential donors this year do not list specifics
of how the money is spent, but says it helps "prepare people for a lifetime
of character and leadership."
When councils were asked for more specifics, their joint written response
said it "pays for services to units through the means of personnel,
properties and equipment on the council level. These services help units
with training, expertise, facilities, materials, activities, events, camps
and other activities that support individual needs." That includes Scout
shops and tracking advancement.
Controversy has arisen in the past about donations also helping to pay big
salaries of some council executives. When The Tribune asked for current
salary levels, the councils declined to provide them.
But nonprofits must list the salaries of some top executives on annual
Internal Revenue Service Form 990 and must report how many employees earn
more than $100,000 in compensation. Guidestar.com collects such forms.
According to the most-recent available 2009 forms, the Great Salt Lake
Council had four employees receiving compensation of more than $100,000. In
addition to Barnes, director of field services Steve Luna made $134,301;
director of support services Kay Godfrey made $113,315; and chief financial
officer Brian Sheets made $100,796.
In the Provo-based Utah National Parks Council, Royster was the only
employee who made more than $100,000, according to the 2009 Form 990. The
Ogden-based Trapper Trails Council reported that no one made more than $100,
000 a year there in 2009.
Even with such salaries, Scouts in Utah may be a bit more thrifty than
similarly sized councils in their salaries.
A Tribune review of Forms 990 for councils nationally that the Boy Scouts
say are similar in size to those in Utah shows that the median full-year
salary for their top executive is $225,908 —Â higher than any of
those in Utah. The highest in the nation for similarly sized councils was
for Los Angeles Area Council's Moore, previously of Utah, at $383,488 in
2009.
But that's low compared to Robert J. Mazzuca, the national chief Scout
executive, whose 2009 compensation was $1.21 million. The Boy Scouts
National Council also reported paying 189 employees more than $100,000 each
in compensation in 2009.
It works • Steven McFarland is the volunteer Friends of Scouting
coordinator for the Francis Peak District (an organizational level below a
Scout council) in the Kaysville area. He has a website that tracks goals and
collections of all LDS wards there, and non-LDS Scout troops. The data
shows that the unique-to-Utah Friends of Scouting system raises a lot of
money even in hard times.
"Even with the recession last year, we collected $10,000 more than our goal"
in that district that includes seven LDS stakes, he said. His website
showed stakes raised between $12,000 and $27,000 each last year. McFarland
adds that minimum goals are set based on past collections, and somewhat
higher target goals are set to encourage some improvement.
"The secret to success is personal contact, and going to every home. As I
tell people, if they will make personal contact at 70 to 80 percent of the
homes in their area, they will have no problem reaching their goals," he
said.
Having so many people participate, he adds, may lower the cost to everyone
to raise the money that Scout councils need. While he said local units seek
$50 or so per family here, "Many people who move here from other areas ask
me why they are asked for so little. They are used to being asked for $200
or $300 each." —
Interact: What do you think?
I What experiences, good or bad, have you had with Friends of Scouting in
Utah? What do you think about Scouting salaries? Send comments to ldavidson@
sltrib.com, including your contact information, so we can talk to you for a
follow-up story. —
LDS and Boy Scout ties
The LDS Church became the first institutional sponsor of Scout troops in the
United States in 1913. Today it reports that it sponsors more Scouts and
Scouting units in the United States than any other organization.
The three Boy Scout councils with headquarters in Utah say they serve 180,
000 Scouts in traditional units, and 70 percent of males in Utah between the
ages of 8 and 18. | x***k
发帖数: 3311 | 3 One thing for sure is: Boyscotts are not supposed to dress up and knock on
doors for fund raising. | L**********n
发帖数: 813 | 4 新闻上说了，派出去上门要钱的是大人
【在 x***k 的大作中提到】
: One thing for sure is: Boyscotts are not supposed to dress up and knock on
: doors for fund raising.
| x***k
发帖数: 3311 | 5 大人就更不应该了. 我有一次给"Get Gebhard"大电话报告,他还让我跟他正式调查...
我想还是算了吧.
【在 L**********n 的大作中提到】
: 新闻上说了，派出去上门要钱的是大人
| t**********s
发帖数: 589 | 6 我们家可是每次都准备好了在家，就是没有人敲门，广告倒是接了好几次。50块太多了
点，5块或者10块差不多。 | L**********n
发帖数: 813 | 7 五刀十刀他们瞧不上眼
【在 t**********s 的大作中提到】
: 我们家可是每次都准备好了在家，就是没有人敲门，广告倒是接了好几次。50块太多了
: 点，5块或者10块差不多。
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