V**3
发帖数: 12756 | |
c*********1
发帖数: 700 | 2 取消强制戴口罩的命令不等于强制不让戴，
别奴性惯了，不被政府管着浑身不舒服？ |
E****a
发帖数: 3088 | 3 说的是內
[在 charles9901 (010101) 的大作中提到：]
:取消强制戴口罩的命令不等于强制不让戴，
:别奴性惯了，不被政府管着浑身不舒服？ |
F********r
发帖数: 878 | 4 So you are saying people have the rights to die, so just let them die? Or
adults are responsible for themselves, so just let them take hard drugs, any
type of drugs? Show us how you are not used to 奴性 and take some hard
drug in front of the authority, and see how your government make you 浑身舒
服.
【在 c*********1 的大作中提到】
: 取消强制戴口罩的命令不等于强制不让戴，
: 别奴性惯了，不被政府管着浑身不舒服？
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z******c
发帖数: 28 | 5 嗯 按床粉这弱智逻辑，那政府都可以取消管毒品，卖淫，赌博，汽车安全带，生产安
全等等
政府管的你们床粉浑身不舒服
【在 c*********1 的大作中提到】
: 取消强制戴口罩的命令不等于强制不让戴，
: 别奴性惯了，不被政府管着浑身不舒服？
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V**3
发帖数: 12756 | 6 俺对于想死上天台往下跳的从来不反对，但是尼玛不能砸到人！！！！！
明白么？
不戴口罩的人，很可能是传染源， 而不是被传染者！
【在 c*********1 的大作中提到】
: 取消强制戴口罩的命令不等于强制不让戴，
: 别奴性惯了，不被政府管着浑身不舒服？
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d*********1
发帖数: 1 | 7 你这逻辑根本不通，真要按照这个逻辑，大家应该做的事去年核平武汉，或者学习朝鲜
，阳性得当场击毙。
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: 俺对于想死上天台往下跳的从来不反对，但是尼玛不能砸到人！！！！！
: 明白么？
: 不戴口罩的人，很可能是传染源， 而不是被传染者！
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z******c
发帖数: 28 | 8 你懂个屁，你懂的话不会成为反指王
【在 d*********1 的大作中提到】
: 你这逻辑根本不通，真要按照这个逻辑，大家应该做的事去年核平武汉，或者学习朝鲜
: ，阳性得当场击毙。
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d*********1
发帖数: 1 | 9 不要过奖，我一点都不懂你得
【在 z******c 的大作中提到】
: 你懂个屁，你懂的话不会成为反指王
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 10 Wuhan was in lock down, and people were using masks.
People in the US want freedom. Do we get it? Wuhan was in lock down for
three months, then they have freedom. How long have we been in lock down?
Other than more deaths, do we end up with more freedom?
【在 d*********1 的大作中提到】
: 你这逻辑根本不通，真要按照这个逻辑，大家应该做的事去年核平武汉，或者学习朝鲜
: ，阳性得当场击毙。
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r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 11 You can have freedom right away by accepting 1% of risk. Many people have
already done so.
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Wuhan was in lock down, and people were using masks.
: People in the US want freedom. Do we get it? Wuhan was in lock down for
: three months, then they have freedom. How long have we been in lock down?
: Other than more deaths, do we end up with more freedom?
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 12 Unfortunately, this freedom comes at a high price, 525k Americans'
lives and counting. The "good" thing is, it is other peoples' lives, not "
my or my loved ones'." /s
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: You can have freedom right away by accepting 1% of risk. Many people have
: already done so.
:
:
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r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 13 This is a "price" that have to be paid. Everyone will get infected with
Covid and everyone that WOULD die MUST die.
If you think that the treatment for covid has improved now and more people
can be saved now, there is even less reason for you to hold back your normal
life. You can still choose to wear a mask even if your government don't
mandate it.
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Unfortunately, this freedom comes at a high price, 525k Americans'
: lives and counting. The "good" thing is, it is other peoples' lives, not "
: my or my loved ones'." /s
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b*********4
发帖数: 1 | 14
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: SB
: 狗屁党就这JB德行
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h*********4
发帖数: 1 | 15 培养新病毒。
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: SB
: 狗屁党就这JB德行
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s********i
发帖数: 17328 | 16 不太明白戴口罩碍着啥事儿了？是妨碍相亲了？还是买不起口罩？ |
F********r
发帖数: 878 | 17 It has been improved a lot, but still not enough, and that's why we still
need mask. You insist that "You can still choose to wear a mask even if
your government don't mandate it." Those people who do what you said is not
the problem, the problem is the people who will not put on the mask without
a mask mandate. We Need the mandate because of THOSE people. Don't say
they are not putting on the mask anyway. They do put on their masks a lot,
if not all, of the times when there is mandate, and they certainly will not
without the mandate.
normal
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: This is a "price" that have to be paid. Everyone will get infected with
: Covid and everyone that WOULD die MUST die.
: If you think that the treatment for covid has improved now and more people
: can be saved now, there is even less reason for you to hold back your normal
: life. You can still choose to wear a mask even if your government don't
: mandate it.
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 18 They said it was their precious, sacred and untouchable rights and freedom.
Yet they have no problem giving up their rights to go through the metal
detector, or even pad-down search, and waste hours as a result to fly.
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】
: 不太明白戴口罩碍着啥事儿了？是妨碍相亲了？还是买不起口罩？
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r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 19 I believe the people that is engaged by "mask mandates" are a small amount
of people - some people won't wear a mask even if you "mandate" it.
The cost of mandating mask by EO is government (administrative) power
outreaching, which in the long turn is very harmful.
Life is not all about how long you live, but also what is the content. I don
't want to live under a government that can use EO to mandate things. If I
like to be mandated, why don't I live in China?
not
without
,
not
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: It has been improved a lot, but still not enough, and that's why we still
: need mask. You insist that "You can still choose to wear a mask even if
: your government don't mandate it." Those people who do what you said is not
: the problem, the problem is the people who will not put on the mask without
: a mask mandate. We Need the mandate because of THOSE people. Don't say
: they are not putting on the mask anyway. They do put on their masks a lot,
: if not all, of the times when there is mandate, and they certainly will not
: without the mandate.
:
: normal
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f*****r
发帖数: 58 | 20 同理可证：应该取消安全带强制法归，红绿灯嘛，大家想停就停，靠自觉就行了，即便
有交通法规，也有人不愿系安全带、红灯不停，所以交通法规是没用的。traffic
ticket is government overreaching. It's not about how long you live, but
also what is the content。 被人强制系安全带，红灯停车的life是没有灵魂的！
don
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: I believe the people that is engaged by "mask mandates" are a small amount
: of people - some people won't wear a mask even if you "mandate" it.
: The cost of mandating mask by EO is government (administrative) power
: outreaching, which in the long turn is very harmful.
: Life is not all about how long you live, but also what is the content. I don
: 't want to live under a government that can use EO to mandate things. If I
: like to be mandated, why don't I live in China?
:
: not
: without
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 21 People are used to taking things for granted. When they came to the US,
they
took whatever existing as the norm, and then later on, any change is
violation of this or that. They didn't think that most of the norms were
not norms sometime before, including seatbelts, traffic lights and traffic
tickets. They never thought that many people before them had the same
issues when these norms were first introduced. Those old people feel that
they lost some rights and freedom, but the new comers (even if you have been
here 20 or 30 years) do not feel they have lost any. Looks like Newton's
First Law also applies to people's behavior.
【在 f*****r 的大作中提到】
: 同理可证：应该取消安全带强制法归，红绿灯嘛，大家想停就停，靠自觉就行了，即便
: 有交通法规，也有人不愿系安全带、红灯不停，所以交通法规是没用的。traffic
: ticket is government overreaching. It's not about how long you live, but
: also what is the content。 被人强制系安全带，红灯停车的life是没有灵魂的！
:
: don
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r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 22 The difference is: driving is a "privilege", walking on the public street is
a "right".
If you break traffic laws, your privilege can be terminated. However, right
cannot be alientated.
【在 f*****r 的大作中提到】
: 同理可证：应该取消安全带强制法归，红绿灯嘛，大家想停就停，靠自觉就行了，即便
: 有交通法规，也有人不愿系安全带、红灯不停，所以交通法规是没用的。traffic
: ticket is government overreaching. It's not about how long you live, but
: also what is the content。 被人强制系安全带，红灯停车的life是没有灵魂的！
:
: don
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r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 23 Again, make new norms into laws by legislation. Ask the majority of people
to buy in.
they
been
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: People are used to taking things for granted. When they came to the US,
: they
: took whatever existing as the norm, and then later on, any change is
: violation of this or that. They didn't think that most of the norms were
: not norms sometime before, including seatbelts, traffic lights and traffic
: tickets. They never thought that many people before them had the same
: issues when these norms were first introduced. Those old people feel that
: they lost some rights and freedom, but the new comers (even if you have been
: here 20 or 30 years) do not feel they have lost any. Looks like Newton's
: First Law also applies to people's behavior.
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 24 Mandating mask is not depriving anyone of his/her right to walk in public.
is
right
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: The difference is: driving is a "privilege", walking on the public street is
: a "right".
: If you break traffic laws, your privilege can be terminated. However, right
: cannot be alientated.
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 25 You are obsessed with laws. Since the legislature did not revoke any EO
mandating mask or social distancing, they are legal. Otherwise they would
have been revoked.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: Again, make new norms into laws by legislation. Ask the majority of people
: to buy in.
:
: they
: been
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m****o
发帖数: 3762 | 26 谁是SB，时间会证明
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: SB
: 狗屁党就这JB德行
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r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 27 Sure. As long as the EOs don't go too far...
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/10/03/919891538/
michigan-supreme-court-rules-against-governors-emergency-powers
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: You are obsessed with laws. Since the legislature did not revoke any EO
: mandating mask or social distancing, they are legal. Otherwise they would
: have been revoked.
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V**3
发帖数: 12756 | 28 呵呵，不用时间
鳖共就已经证明了
【在 m****o 的大作中提到】
: 谁是SB，时间会证明
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Y**M
发帖数: 2315 | 29 你是真不明白，还是假不明白？
美国要想让口罩之类禁令有效，必须保证佛洛伊德之流随便死，（可以打官司但）
没人上街抗议，更不用说暴乱了。
中共能做到这一点，中共甚至能让官司都没得打，美国能做到么？
至于有些人拿其它的禁令来说事。
为什么美国管不住XX违法，还要规定XX违法？
那是因为XX本来就违法。
保守主义的核心思想，就是要区分旧秩序和新秩序。旧秩序不要轻易消除，新秩序
不要轻易增设。否则的话，只要掌权就可以胡来，结果必然是天下大乱。
另及：中共控制疫情的首要手段不是戴口罩，而是控制人员流动。中国大陆在其疫
情高峰期，根本没有足够的医用口罩。疫情好转以后，大多数地方的人也不当回事。例
如，超市门口会检查顾客是否戴口罩，不戴不许进，但在超市内部顾客就是可以不戴。
【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，不用时间
: 鳖共就已经证明了
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