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d********f
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Non-citizens are registering and voting in Texas elections, and current
procedures are inadequate to prevent it, state and local officials told
lawmakers in a special committee hearing.
The Senate Select Committee on Election Security heard testimony last month
about problems with the voting process in Texas, including non-citizens
illegally registering and voting.
Officials representing Texas’ Secretary of State, the Texas Attorney
General’s office, and Starr County all testified at the February 22 hearing
that under the state’s current system, non-citizens can easily register to
vote in Texas without being detected.
It’s a violation of both federal and state law for non-citizens to vote or
register to vote.
“Fundamentally, it looks as if we have a [voter registration] system that
is not as accurate as necessary,” said State Sen. Brian Birdwell (R–
Granbury), a member of the committee.
Keith Ingram, who heads the Texas Secretary of State’s Elections Division,
testified:
“Election integrity has to have a voter registration list that contains
only persons who are alive and eligible to register to vote. … The National
Voter Registration Act requires all states to have in place a general
program for updating voters who have changed addresses and for removing
voters who have died, been convicted of a felony, or been adjudicated
mentally incompetent.”
“We do have all of these programs in place,” Ingram added.
Ingram explained that the state cancels the registrations of certain
inactive and deceased voters. But it’s the responsibility of county
elections officials to investigate and remove all other ineligible people on
the voter rolls – including non-citizens.
“Voter registration is county-based,” he said. “It’s their voters, not
ours. That’s up to them.”
While the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) requires local election
officials to maintain accurate voter rolls, it also made it easier for non-
citizens to get on the rolls by mandating that states offer voter
registration by mail and at driver’s license offices. Registering to vote
is now an honor system, with no documentation required and no one verifying
citizenship – applicants merely check a box affirming they’re U.S.
citizens.
Birdwell asked Ingram what mechanisms the Secretary of State or county voter
registration officials have to ensure that non-citizens aren’t registering
to vote. “Only the jury summons,” Ingram responded. State law requires
jury clerks to report to elections officials all individuals who claim an
exemption to jury duty because they are not citizens.
“The Secretary of State’s office’s only way to ensure non-citizens aren’
t voting is the random sampling of a jury duty summons?” Birdwell asked.
“That is correct,” Ingram replied.
If a non-citizen never gets summoned to jury duty or doesn’t respond to a
summons, Birdwell asked, “you have no mechanism to correct that wrong?”
“That’s right,” Ingram confirmed.
“We have no active method [to ensure non-citizens aren’t registering to
vote]. We depend on the self-reporting of the individual,” Birdwell
concluded. “That is a significant problem.”
State Sen. Don Huffines (R–Dallas) asked Ingram if the Secretary of State’
s office, or any other state agency, oversees county elections officials to
ensure that they’re maintaining accurate voter rolls. “No,” Ingram
responded:
“We are an assist-and-advise agency … If a county is not doing an adequate
job of working their matches and purging their [ineligible] voters, they
end up with more voters than they have people registered in the county and
that’ll get the attention of groups like the American Civil Rights Union,
Public Interest Legal Foundation … They will get a notice letter [that the
county is in violation of the NVRA].”
“So it’s up to the general public to police their own voting system,”
Huffines observed.
Much of that monitoring, as Ingram noted, is being done by the American
Civil Rights Union (ACRU) and Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF). The
two groups are working to hold election officials – in Texas and other
states – accountable to voting integrity laws like the NVRA.
The ACRU, represented by PILF, sued Starr County, Texas in 2016 for
violating the NVRA. Their federal complaint alleges that Starr County’s
voter rolls “contain more voters registered to vote than there are citizens
eligible to vote residing in the county.” That includes deceased voters,
ineligible felons, and non-citizens – all of which have been found on the
county’s registration rolls and casting ballots.
District Attorney Omar Escobar confirmed to lawmakers at the hearing that
non-U.S. citizens are registering and voting in Starr County, reinforcing
statements he made while launching a voter fraud investigation in January.
“That non-citizens are registered to vote is beyond question,” Escobar
testified. “That non-citizens are voting in Starr County is also beyond
question.”
PILF, which is dedicated exclusively to election integrity, recently sent
NVRA violation notices to Bexar County and Harris County officials who are
concealing records of non-citizens registering to vote. If those officials
keep denying access to public voter registration records, they too will face
federal lawsuits.
Assistant Attorney General Jonathan White, with the Texas Attorney General’
s Criminal Prosecutions Division, told the committee his office has also
discovered evidence that non-citizen registration and voting is a problem
across the state.
“In addition to finding non-citizens on voter rolls, we found that in fact
they are voting,” White testified.
Texas Scorecard reported on those findings last month. A brief survey of
four Texas counties found that in just the past two years, 165 unlawfully
registered non-citizens were removed from those counties’ voter rolls –
but only after they self-identified as non-citizens in the process of
recusing themselves from jury duty. Those non-citizens cast 100 illegal
votes.
Worse, the AG’s investigators found that “the process for removing
ineligible voters who self-report as non-citizens at jury duty is not being
followed correctly, or even at all, in various counties.”
Birdwell asked Ingram if the Secretary of State’s office has any
recommendations for keeping non-citizens off Texas voter rolls and out of
Texas elections.
Ingram said that several states – Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, and Kansas –
have passed laws requiring documented proof of citizenship to register, but
those laws aren’t currently being enforced due to legal challenges.
Litigants claim the requirement violates the NVRA. A case challenging Kansas
’ proof-of-citizenship law, which the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
temporarily blocked, will be back in federal court on March 6.
Depending on the outcome of that case, requiring proof of citizenship may be
one of the solutions to the problem of non-citizens registering and voting
in Texas that legislators consider in 2019.
r******g
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抓几个非公民投票有什么难的?抓住判刑遣返,非公民就不敢乱投票了。美国的司法部
门真是吃干饭的,难怪民主党牛鬼蛇神那么无法无天。
d********f
发帖数: 43471
3
你搞错了一件事,federal系统里很难起诉voter fraud,因为要证明被告有malicious
intent, 就是说你要证明丫是故意的,不是不小心的,这个简直难于上青天

【在 r******g 的大作中提到】
: 抓几个非公民投票有什么难的?抓住判刑遣返,非公民就不敢乱投票了。美国的司法部
: 门真是吃干饭的,难怪民主党牛鬼蛇神那么无法无天。

s****d
发帖数: 1830
4
查出来 不起诉
直接交给ICE 并且公示 搞他个几千人 就没人敢投了

malicious

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 你搞错了一件事,federal系统里很难起诉voter fraud,因为要证明被告有malicious
: intent, 就是说你要证明丫是故意的,不是不小心的,这个简直难于上青天

D***I
发帖数: 1957
5
司法部早就成了左叉大粪坑了
司法部不但不抓非法,甚至直接拨款3个亿给非法移民起诉各地遣返机构

【在 r******g 的大作中提到】
: 抓几个非公民投票有什么难的?抓住判刑遣返,非公民就不敢乱投票了。美国的司法部
: 门真是吃干饭的,难怪民主党牛鬼蛇神那么无法无天。

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