x****d
发帖数: 2239 | 1 记得上次共和党，为了把Ron Paul踢出去，好像改了什么规则，导致Ron Paul在大会上
没法上选票。
当时把他的支持者气得够呛。
如果没记错，follow这个rule的话，只有Trump才能被提名。
谁去查查。
当然了，和党订规则的可能临时再改，厚颜无耻到底。 | z****z
发帖数: 2054 | 2 好象是必须赢8(?)个州的primary, 才能上选票.
【在 x****d 的大作中提到】
: 记得上次共和党，为了把Ron Paul踢出去，好像改了什么规则，导致Ron Paul在大会上
: 没法上选票。
: 当时把他的支持者气得够呛。
: 如果没记错，follow这个rule的话，只有Trump才能被提名。
: 谁去查查。
: 当然了，和党订规则的可能临时再改，厚颜无耻到底。
| b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | | t*******d
发帖数: 12895 | 4 08，12和党初选不是都早早锁定吗？
【在 x****d 的大作中提到】
: 记得上次共和党，为了把Ron Paul踢出去，好像改了什么规则，导致Ron Paul在大会上
: 没法上选票。
: 当时把他的支持者气得够呛。
: 如果没记错，follow这个rule的话，只有Trump才能被提名。
: 谁去查查。
: 当然了，和党订规则的可能临时再改，厚颜无耻到底。
| b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 5 是的。但是12年时候rand paul的代表要把paul的名字放上去来让GOP难堪.
【在 t*******d 的大作中提到】
: 08，12和党初选不是都早早锁定吗？
| b*****0
发帖数: 559 | 6 规则肯定是可以随便改的，关键是改了的后果有多大。
选民们才不会管RNC的那些鸟规则。按现在的情形trump票最多又不让他上，就跟买彩票
中奖了不让兑奖差不多。愤怒的选民不暴动才怪
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 8个州拿到多数代表。不过GOP可以随时改规则。
| x****d
发帖数: 2239 | 7 查了查，好象是像zzphzz 和 brihand说的。
这样的话，目前只能Trump 和Cruz, 别人没法上选票。 | b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 8 cruz现在也没够格。
【在 x****d 的大作中提到】
: 查了查，好象是像zzphzz 和 brihand说的。
: 这样的话，目前只能Trump 和Cruz, 别人没法上选票。
| t*******d
发帖数: 12895 | 9 就算不暴动也会用选票报复
【在 b*****0 的大作中提到】
: 规则肯定是可以随便改的，关键是改了的后果有多大。
: 选民们才不会管RNC的那些鸟规则。按现在的情形trump票最多又不让他上，就跟买彩票
: 中奖了不让兑奖差不多。愤怒的选民不暴动才怪
| x****d
发帖数: 2239 | 10 有一篇以前的Ron Paul 的campaign advisor: Doug Wead 写给Trump team的：
Warning to the Trumpets. It ain’t over. It is just beginning.
Below are a list of tactics that Establishment Republicans may use to block
the nomination of Donald Trump. Yes, I know. If they succeed they will not
win the White House but many in the establishment will make just as much
money under a Democrat insider as they will with a Republican insider. So
they may not care.
All they may want to do is send the message to any future “outsider”
candidate, “This is our party and you need our approval to participate. If
you try to do this without us we will destroy you.”
These tactics were used in 2012 to keep Libertarian insurgents from winning
delegates to the Republican National Convention. The fear was that Ron Paul
would be able to place his name in nomination and give a speech about
capital cronyism and how big corporations use the system to corrupt free
enterprise. Donald Trump can learn from our experience.
What was at stake in 2012? Money. What’s at stake now? Money.
But why will low level party stalwarts who don’t get that money play along
and do the bidding of the big party leaders?
To keep their positions as State, County or Precinct Chairmen. Power. Ego.
Prestige. They want that all expenses paid trip to the Republican National
Convention. Booze. Free corporate gifts. A box of Godiva chocolates left on
their pillow in their room each night. They know that candidates like Trump
come and go but the party infrastructure, financed by companies and their
lobbyists, remain forever.
Here’s what the new Trump supporters can expect. (Carefully follow the
links to stories below to see the actual videos and read the details of how
these things happened in 2012.)
#1) Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Romney will cooperate with each other to help
block Trump outsiders at key County and State conventions. There is nothing
wrong with this. Just don’t be taken by surprise. You may have most of the
delegates at the local event and still lose to this combination. Make your
own deals with Chairmen and other party officials before its too late.
#2) The RNC Rules Committee will likely change the rules back to a five
state requirement needed to put a name in nomination at the Convention. This
will make it easier to nominate Rubio, Cruz, Kasich and even Romney. Trump
operatives should block this change and keep it at eight, which was
originally designed to protect Romney, the expected incumbent.
#3) Make sure that you have your own people chosen as delegates to the
convention. The insiders will fight you to the death over this, saying that
it doesn’t matter, that you won the primary or the caucus and so the actual
delegates are bound by law to vote for you anyway. (Not true.)
They will say that the governor and the senator and the old former chairman,
who has been to every RNC since Eisenhower, should be able to represent
their state. Be courteous and reasonable but you also need large numbers of
your own reliable Trump supporters chosen as delegates.
Keep in mind, the only rules that bind the delegates are the rules of the
party and those very delegates can change those rules.
What if there is a media hyped Trump scandal and the party votes to “unbind
” the delegates on the first ballot? Then they can vote for whomever they
wish.
What if Trump does not win on the first ballot and there is a second ballot?
They will then vote their real choice and you will have lost all of those
states you thought you had won in primaries.
#4) The place of the caucus that selects the actual delegates who go to the
district or state convention may suddenly change without your knowledge.
Linked by a telephone chain the insiders will meet without you. Your folks
will show up at one hotel and the meeting will take place at another.
#5) The time of the meeting may suddenly change. Your people can show up and
find that the building is locked and authorities will say you are too late
to be allowed in to participate. This happened many times in 2012, with
hundreds of screaming voters left outside.
#6) The chairman may say “Ayes have it,” even if they don’t. This happens
at the precinct, county, district, state and even national level. What are
you going to do about it? Sue? Meanwhile, their winning precinct delegation
will go onto the State Convention as delegates representing your opponent.
You may appeal to the RNC for justice and they may support the cheaters
because you don’t have enough of your own people as delegates serving on
the Rules Committee.
#7) Off duty police may arrest and detain your newly elected Donald Trump
GOP officers. Yep, that happened to us. Your people may be kept for hours in
jail cells and those who protest may be arrested as well.
#8) Precinct, County, State leaders may charge a last minute tax. This may
have happened in 2012 in Alaska. Voters who had not been tipped off
reportedly could not vote without paying $10. Credit cards not accepted.
This worked so well at excluding voters in Alaska that Romney operatives
used it in King County, Washington. They also turned away young people who
did not appear on their outdated voter registration lists.
#9) If the Caucus Chairman is replaced or does not like the outcome of the
vote they may suddenly declare the process invalid. For example, they may
say that the new chairman is a Trump partisan and thus it is now a Trump
event and the GOP insurance for the event is invalid and thus the meeting is
ended. See the video above.
#10) State Conventions will prepare ballots misspelling Trump and then later
discount them in the voting for those pledged delegates.
#11) Fake ballots will be distributed listing establishment names as the
official Trump delegates, confusing the voters. They may also try to split
the Trump slate by nominating competing Trump delegates with real names of
public figures.
#12) Counting the ballots at the various conventions will be an exhausting
business with delays, postponements until the next day, seals broken on the
voting boxes, and all kinds of chicanery.
#13) They may cancel the voting due to weather in a key precinct that is
heavily Trump, throwing the State. Even though the weather turns out to be
fine in the given precinct.
#14) At convention you may find hotel rooms cancelled.They may arrange for
the bus bringing your delegates to the Rules Committee to get lost and
changes to convention rules may happen in your absence.
#15) When you leave the RNC don’t think it’s over. A Ron Paul delegate was
detained by TSA at the airport leaving Tampa when bullets were found in
their packed luggage.
The idea is to make you so sick, so weary, so beaten down that you will
never, ever, even dare challenge the establishment that runs the Republican
Party again. Ever.
Here is the message. It doesn’t belong to you. As in the case of the
Democratic Party, it belongs to the insiders, the rich and powerful who make
money from a rigged economy that favors a few at the expense of the many.
Donald Trump is too independent and too unpredictable for them.
You have been warned. Good luck. | s********t
发帖数: 4150 | 11 Check this out. Today's headline.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/18/could-gop-panel-make
【在 x****d 的大作中提到】
: 记得上次共和党，为了把Ron Paul踢出去，好像改了什么规则，导致Ron Paul在大会上
: 没法上选票。
: 当时把他的支持者气得够呛。
: 如果没记错，follow这个rule的话，只有Trump才能被提名。
: 谁去查查。
: 当然了，和党订规则的可能临时再改，厚颜无耻到底。
| h*s
发帖数: 2134 | 12 规则不能随便改，在去年六月以前就搞定，以后就不能修改了
trump已经达标，现在就差过半了
【在 b*****0 的大作中提到】
: 规则肯定是可以随便改的，关键是改了的后果有多大。
: 选民们才不会管RNC的那些鸟规则。按现在的情形trump票最多又不让他上，就跟买彩票
: 中奖了不让兑奖差不多。愤怒的选民不暴动才怪
| x****d
发帖数: 2239 | 13 The more I think about this, the more I want to laugh: Karma, bit*ch! (
middle finger to GOP) |
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