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b*****o
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http://betsymccaughey.com
From NYC to Harvard: the war on Asian success
Posted by Betsy on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 ·
The year 2015 was a dismal one for American public education — at least by
the numbers.
But don’t blame the kids. Parents are missing in action.
Except most Asian-American parents, that is. They tend to oversee their
children’s homework, stress the importance of earning high grades and
instill the belief that hard work is the ticket to a better life.
And it pays off. Their children are soaring academically.
The outrage is that instead of embracing the example of these Asian families
, school authorities and non-Asian parents want to rig the system to hold
them back. It’s happening here in New York City, in suburban New Jersey and
across the nation.
As a group, Americans need to take a page from the Asian parents’ playbook.
American teens rank a dismal 28th in math and science knowledge, compared
with teens in other countries — even poor countries. Singapore, Hong Kong,
South Korea, Japan and Taiwan are at the top.
We’ve slumped. For the first time in 25 years, US scores on the main test
for elementary and middle school education fell. And SAT scores for college-
bound students dropped significantly.
Could changes in these tests be to blame? That convenient excuse was
torpedoed by the stellar performances of Asian-American students. Even
though many come from poor or immigrant families, they outscore all other
students by large margins on both tests, and their lead keeps widening.
Here in New York City, Asian-Americans make up 13 percent of students, yet
they win more than half of the coveted places each year at the city’s
selective public high schools, such as Bronx Science and Stuyvesant.
What’s at play here? It’s not a difference in IQ; it’s parenting. That’s
confirmed by a recent study by sociologists from City University of New
York and the University of Michigan, which showed that parental oversight
enabled Asian-American students to far outperform the others.
No wonder many successful charter schools require parents to sign a pledge
that they’ll supervise their children’s homework and encourage a strong
work ethic.
That formula is under fire at the West Windsor-Plainsboro Regional School
District in New Jersey. The district, which is 65 percent Asian, routinely
produces seniors with perfect SAT scores, admissions to MIT and top prizes
in international science competitions.
But many non-Asian parents are up in arms, complaining there’s too much
pressure and their kids can’t compete. In response, this fall
Superintendent David Aderhold apologized that school had become a “
perpetual achievement machine.” Heaven forbid!
Aderhold canceled accelerated and enriched math courses for fourth and fifth
grades, which were 90 percent Asian, and eliminated midterms and finals in
high school.
Using a word that already strikes terror in the hearts of Asian parents, he
said schools had to take a “holistic” approach. That’s the same euphemism
Harvard uses to limit the number of Asians accepted and favor non-Asians.
Aderhold even lowered standards for playing in school music programs.
Students have a “right to squeak,” he insisted. Never mind whether they
practice.
Of course, neither Aderhold nor parents in charge of sports are indulging
nonathletic kids with a “right to fumble” and join a mostly non-Asian
varsity football team.
Meanwhile, in New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio and the NAACP want to
reduce the role the competitive exam plays in admissions for the city’s
eight selective high schools in favor of a “holistic” approach. That means
robbing poor, largely immigrant and first-generation kids — nearly half
the students get subsidized school lunches — of the chance to study hard
and compete for a world-class education.
As Dennis Saffran explains in “The Plot Against Merit,” some Asian-
American eighth-graders practice for two years for the test, while their
parents toil in laundromats and restaurants to pay for exam-prep classes.
What’s stopping white, Hispanic and black parents from doing the same thing?
Betsy McCaughey is a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research.
b*****o
发帖数: 6080
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"Aderhold canceled accelerated and enriched math courses for fourth and
fifth
grades, which were 90 percent Asian, and eliminated midterms and finals in
high school.
Using a word that already strikes terror in the hearts of Asian parents, he
said schools had to take a “holistic” approach. That’s the same euphemism
Harvard uses to limit the number of Asians accepted and favor non-Asians.
Aderhold even lowered standards for playing in school music programs.
Students have a “right to squeak,” he insisted. Never mind whether they
practice.
Of course, neither Aderhold nor parents in charge of sports are indulging
nonathletic kids with a “right to fumble” and join a mostly non-Asian
varsity football team".
看这段。
f**********n
发帖数: 29853
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谢崭新兄,我转去了父母版。
b*****o
发帖数: 6080
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厚厚,多谢。那个版颇有几个精神病患者,你也不用和病人较真了。正常的亚裔父母心
里和mccaughey一样,心里明镜一般。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 谢崭新兄,我转去了父母版。
T*********I
发帖数: 10729
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Betsy Mccaughey,说的很准确。大赞。
有几点共鸣的地方
1. hardwork--成功的门票。TRUMP也这么说。
2. 不是difference in IQ; it’s parenting。家长应该重视起来。
3. 美国花钱最多,成果最差,这点TRUMP也提出来了。而且用的就是教育这个缺。国家
教育上不去,和上两点的不重视很有关系。加上联邦压下来的common core就算有特性
,但是漏洞多多,弊大于利。
4. holistic就是一个easy excuse。试图绕过1和2. 又是和1、2两点的不重视的再现。
T*********I
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"perpetual achievement machine"
尼玛,这有多荒唐。
学生's job is to learn to achieve, and achieve, if you can't overachieve.
b*****o
发帖数: 6080
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基本上,如果看不顺眼你这个肤色的,那就怎么看都嫌人数太多。比如,华裔里都还老
有人犯这个贱:啊,如果教室里黄乎乎一片,那有意思吗?呃,球队里(这里泛指一般
学校球队)娱乐圈黑的黑白的白,为什么没有人嫌黑压压白乎乎一片,要培养培养亚裔
holistic的招进来?

【在 T*********I 的大作中提到】
: "perpetual achievement machine"
: 尼玛,这有多荒唐。
: 学生's job is to learn to achieve, and achieve, if you can't overachieve.

b*****0
发帖数: 559
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说的太对了。
尼玛AA本来一个保护少数族裔出发的法案,现在演变成歧视压迫少数族裔的幌子,颠倒
黑白,实在让人作呕。
T*********I
发帖数: 10729
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我很想知道,这个"holistic"的裹脚布里到底包括些什么东西?
我想大多数是商业用不上的。如果真的裹上了"holistic"这个裹脚布,学校重视这些特
殊技能,但是学生在这些特殊技能上牛逼,光鲜到大学毕业,才突然发现没有单位要自
己。那岂不悔之已晚。
所以"holistic"这个裹脚布完全是个excuse,为了遮掩本该直面的不努力而导致的羞惭
。耽误了病情。
f**********n
发帖数: 29853
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她的另外一篇写的也很好。人美心更美。
http://betsymccaughey.com/college-quotas-are-actually-destroyin
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b*****o
发帖数: 6080
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没事,政治正确作弊当道,工作也种族quota就可以了。

【在 T*********I 的大作中提到】
: 我很想知道,这个"holistic"的裹脚布里到底包括些什么东西?
: 我想大多数是商业用不上的。如果真的裹上了"holistic"这个裹脚布,学校重视这些特
: 殊技能,但是学生在这些特殊技能上牛逼,光鲜到大学毕业,才突然发现没有单位要自
: 己。那岂不悔之已晚。
: 所以"holistic"这个裹脚布完全是个excuse,为了遮掩本该直面的不努力而导致的羞惭
: 。耽误了病情。

b*****0
发帖数: 559
12

所谓的holistic根本就是一个黑箱,说白了就是黑墨种族优待,亚裔歧视。不管他按什
么客观标准,哪怕取消一切考试,按音乐体育课外活动演讲,不管什么特殊技能,只要
是公平的标准,亚裔就会出头。那个学区有家长提出过,让招生过程完全匿名化,标准
随便定,结果黑墨们不同意。要的就是一个亚裔无法改变的肤色种族。其他的种种全都
TMD借口。

【在 T*********I 的大作中提到】
: 我很想知道,这个"holistic"的裹脚布里到底包括些什么东西?
: 我想大多数是商业用不上的。如果真的裹上了"holistic"这个裹脚布,学校重视这些特
: 殊技能,但是学生在这些特殊技能上牛逼,光鲜到大学毕业,才突然发现没有单位要自
: 己。那岂不悔之已晚。
: 所以"holistic"这个裹脚布完全是个excuse,为了遮掩本该直面的不努力而导致的羞惭
: 。耽误了病情。

b*****o
发帖数: 6080
13
如果我没记错的话,jersey 这一出,白人父母也跳出来了,因为亚裔学生在学业上的
绝对优势,让白人感到受到威胁。
基本上,现在的aa就是合法迫害亚裔,打着帮助非裔和西裔的旗号。

【在 b*****0 的大作中提到】
:
: 所谓的holistic根本就是一个黑箱,说白了就是黑墨种族优待,亚裔歧视。不管他按什
: 么客观标准,哪怕取消一切考试,按音乐体育课外活动演讲,不管什么特殊技能,只要
: 是公平的标准,亚裔就会出头。那个学区有家长提出过,让招生过程完全匿名化,标准
: 随便定,结果黑墨们不同意。要的就是一个亚裔无法改变的肤色种族。其他的种种全都
: TMD借口。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
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我在本地论坛上吵得时候有类似的感觉。
有人担心,加州的富裕华人小孩就都来密歇根大学了。我说,技术上,你增加外州学费
就好。然后就给他一拳,说我就是亚裔,你和亚裔有啥问题?
这个人的原因主要是他小孩没进密大,心里不平衡。输家最喜欢找借口,于是就把这个
推给亚裔。

【在 b*****o 的大作中提到】
: 如果我没记错的话,jersey 这一出,白人父母也跳出来了,因为亚裔学生在学业上的
: 绝对优势,让白人感到受到威胁。
: 基本上,现在的aa就是合法迫害亚裔,打着帮助非裔和西裔的旗号。

b*****o
发帖数: 6080
15
左臂的报道,隔着网线,歧视的气味依然很熏鼻。
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/26/nyregion/reforms-to-ease-stud
按同样的标准,作弊应该报道美国的学校球队队员过于拼命,造成外伤不说,脑震荡和
脑损伤对青少年健康造成极大危害,代价过大,应该加以抑制。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 我在本地论坛上吵得时候有类似的感觉。
: 有人担心,加州的富裕华人小孩就都来密歇根大学了。我说,技术上,你增加外州学费
: 就好。然后就给他一拳,说我就是亚裔,你和亚裔有啥问题?
: 这个人的原因主要是他小孩没进密大,心里不平衡。输家最喜欢找借口,于是就把这个
: 推给亚裔。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
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咱们第一代移民,没有任何根基,没有任何人脉,唯一有的就是省吃俭用的几万块。这
钱怎么存的啊,看本站,带盒饭不去餐馆,买东方不败省修车费,家里温度调成55度省
暖气费,去各个零售店受尽白眼地扫货,等。我们只想投资在孩子的未来,却被这波种
族歧视分子拉后腿。
最愤恨的,就是华人中的败类,还在为这种歧视政策摇旗呐喊!

【在 b*****o 的大作中提到】
: 左臂的报道,隔着网线,歧视的气味依然很熏鼻。
: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/26/nyregion/reforms-to-ease-stud
: 按同样的标准,作弊应该报道美国的学校球队队员过于拼命,造成外伤不说,脑震荡和
: 脑损伤对青少年健康造成极大危害,代价过大,应该加以抑制。

b*****o
发帖数: 6080
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对,亚裔一代移民让本土的懒人蒙羞,这是一。
二,并非每个反对种族aa的亚裔家长都奔着ivy,而是反抗“取消竞争的权利”。
jersey一宗事,超越了种族关系,实际上是为了照顾弱者,干脆取消任何人通过努力获
取成功的资格。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 咱们第一代移民,没有任何根基,没有任何人脉,唯一有的就是省吃俭用的几万块。这
: 钱怎么存的啊,看本站,带盒饭不去餐馆,买东方不败省修车费,家里温度调成55度省
: 暖气费,去各个零售店受尽白眼地扫货,等。我们只想投资在孩子的未来,却被这波种
: 族歧视分子拉后腿。
: 最愤恨的,就是华人中的败类,还在为这种歧视政策摇旗呐喊!

T*********I
发帖数: 10729
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这个黑箱(AA),尤其是institutionalized racial discrimination,是最难对付的
。根本没有选择。 私营的,好歹你还可以换一家。
对AA的司法方面,高院的大法官们偏右的会投反对AA。所以解决AA的办法,就是政治上
要右倾。只有总统偏右了,提名的大法官们才会是偏右的,才可能最终从司法上解决这
个政府直接操作的对亚裔和白人的种族歧视。
竞选总统和立法这块,直接反对AA是冒很大风险的。当年ROMNEY反对AA,但是很快在压
力下退却。现在的候选人们,即便是TRUMP,也绝对不肯说出今天不再支持AA这点。

【在 b*****0 的大作中提到】
:
: 所谓的holistic根本就是一个黑箱,说白了就是黑墨种族优待,亚裔歧视。不管他按什
: 么客观标准,哪怕取消一切考试,按音乐体育课外活动演讲,不管什么特殊技能,只要
: 是公平的标准,亚裔就会出头。那个学区有家长提出过,让招生过程完全匿名化,标准
: 随便定,结果黑墨们不同意。要的就是一个亚裔无法改变的肤色种族。其他的种种全都
: TMD借口。

b*****o
发帖数: 6080
19
"Tech giants in Silicon Valley like Facebook and Google are facing enormous
pressure to diversify because they have too many whites and Asians in top
jobs. At next week’s Super Bowl, can we expect complaints that because the
Denver Broncos are 72 percent black, they need to add more whites and Asians
to the team"?
http://betsymccaughey.com/obamas-diversity-diktat-is-a-giant-gi
伊的新作。
f**********n
发帖数: 29853
20
我看到你在父母版的帖子了。:)
这姑娘每篇都写的不错。

enormous
the
Asians

【在 b*****o 的大作中提到】
: "Tech giants in Silicon Valley like Facebook and Google are facing enormous
: pressure to diversify because they have too many whites and Asians in top
: jobs. At next week’s Super Bowl, can we expect complaints that because the
: Denver Broncos are 72 percent black, they need to add more whites and Asians
: to the team"?
: http://betsymccaughey.com/obamas-diversity-diktat-is-a-giant-gi
: 伊的新作。

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