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USANews版 - 关于Jimmy 事件:我们每个人还可以这样做:
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话题: jimmy话题: school话题: deeply话题: violence话题: kimmel
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B*********y
发帖数: 266
1
除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
threatening people with bodily harm;
provide counseling services to kids who might be deeply upset and disturbed)
。有些小孩确实是是非观还很混淆,要求学校采取行动以帮助纠正这些错误的是非观。
在与学校的交流中,应该从大的种族范围来抗议,不仅仅说,这是针对中国人的
offense,而要强调:Offense against one race is offense against ALL races!
首先,A kid does not just randomly rush out words like "killing" out of
nowhere. It implies certain inappropriate and negative impact from his
surroundings and environments.
Jimmy 不但不立即严肃阻止,反而comment" an interesting idea", 并继而suggest
“Should we allow the Chinese to live?" This is totally outrageous!
在与学校的交流中,首先要强调:(1) Jimmy 的言行 promote racism. 强调Jimmy
的言行的不可容忍性在于其与德国ZANI的相似:
Jimmy Kimmel promote prejudice, hatred of, and discrimination against a
racial group, which was no difference from Nazi Germany's antisemitism "kill
all the Jews." This sign of deeply entrenched discrimination, subjugation,
racism, and racial violence within Jimmy Kimmel is TOTALLY unacceptable!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFHtsm1Xw0A
其次要强调(2)Jimmy 的言行 promote violence。要把Jimmy的的言行与近期美国校
圆内发生的暴力事件相联系。学校的老师对这类事情比较敏感,容易引起他们的共鸣和
支持:
(a) 麻省(Massachuset High School)上周(周三或者周四的事情,Oct23/24)刚发生
一起14岁中学生用小刀(box-cutter), 在洗手间杀了一位受人爱戴的Math老师,把老
师尸体用recycle bin 拖进小树林(woods)中,然后若无其事的去看电影和吃 Wendy's.
(具体原因不详,但该老师要课后找该学生谈话)。This reflect a really
worrisome fact that some of today's kids are taking "killing" as a viable
option to resolve issues.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/25/21143663-new-details
(b) Nevada (Navada Middle School) 在同一周早些时间(周一,Oct 21)发生一起12
岁中学生用枪杀了一位Math老师,伤了两位学生.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shoot
二。写信或打电话给你们州的议员。表达同样的concern: racisum & voilence.
马上就是选举日了,Nov 5, 2013:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_2013
这是一个好机会,一定要把握,要让他们听到亚裔和华人的声音,不仅是为我们这一代
,更是为了我们下一代; 人都是欺软怕硬的,华人常常抱着息事宁人的态度,殊不
知,你退一步,人就进一步,人不把你当回事,because you are nobody, you don't
even have a voice, let alone any action。我的美国同事就常说:If you don't
stand up for yourself, who will? If you yourself don't care about fighting
for injustice done to you, who else do you expect to?
f******h
发帖数: 609
2
Very good points. Thanks!
k********g
发帖数: 185
3
顶。
c****8
发帖数: 510
4
非常好的建议,可行性强。
尤其是给学校写信,为人父母的如果连这点功夫都不愿意花的话,实在是太对不起自己
的孩子了!
j****5
发帖数: 18
5
非常好的建议。顶一个!
JKL的根本问题,还不仅是对华人的冒犯,还是hate crime。以小孩子来说事,轻描淡
写地开这样的玩笑,对下一代的影响尤其恶劣!那个美国小孩其实也是节目的直接受害
者之一。这么小的年纪,就被打上racist的形象,长久地留在公众记忆里。如果他确实
受了大人引导,希望小孩的父母能通过媒体,公开指认JK Live。

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
: 一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
: counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
: deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
: Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
: take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
: provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
: hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
: discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
: threatening people with bodily harm;

k****m
发帖数: 4670
6
刚才看到这个标语“ABC/J.kimmel teach kids killing today,school shooting
tommorow”,这才能唤醒美国人的危机意识,才能给ABC更大压力
l****b
发帖数: 101
7
很好!
J*******p
发帖数: 1129
8

说的好!!

【在 k****m 的大作中提到】
: 刚才看到这个标语“ABC/J.kimmel teach kids killing today,school shooting
: tommorow”,这才能唤醒美国人的危机意识,才能给ABC更大压力

B*********y
发帖数: 266
9
我们的游行啦,抗议啦,不要只针对Jimmy, 而是要针对他后面的 ABC 和 Disney。
他们对Jimmy采取了容忍、默许的态度,(甚至暗地里赞赏也未可知)。
他们对Jimmy的态度,就如同jimmy 对那个小孩 Braxton采取的态度一样。。。
f*****r
发帖数: 493
10
Re very good point!
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p*******0
发帖数: 156
11
顶! will do!
S*******e
发帖数: 8
12
好主意,非常赞成!看来已经有不少人都在做这方面工作了。
建议首先要强调Jimmy 的言行 promote violence,这和每个孩子、每个家庭、每个学
校都息息相关, 更能引起所有种族的家长、教师的共鸣。
S*******e
发帖数: 8
13
强!
给力!

【在 k****m 的大作中提到】
: 刚才看到这个标语“ABC/J.kimmel teach kids killing today,school shooting
: tommorow”,这才能唤醒美国人的危机意识,才能给ABC更大压力

b******e
发帖数: 65
14
Just did
To senates and school principal
B*********y
发帖数: 266
15
纠正一下:
不应该用 offense 这个词, 应该用insult。
刚问了美国同事,
offense 其实是个蛮轻的词,常常指 random 的, 无意的,情节不重的;
insult 份量就重了,常常指 intentional 的,deliberate 的。
所以, 不应该 说 feel deeply offended, 或 Offense against one race is
offense against ALL races!
而应该说: feel deeply insulted。 Insulting one race is insulting ALL races!
C****2
发帖数: 859
16
好注意,哪为大虾可以给我一份copy吗?实在语文不好,写不出来,||
d****t
发帖数: 39
17
我觉得还可以在各自的小区,shopping mall 发传单,尤其是家里有孩子的。让孩子去
可以更让人接受。传单的内容要紧扣教育孩子。大家觉得怎么样?

【在 C****2 的大作中提到】
: 好注意,哪为大虾可以给我一份copy吗?实在语文不好,写不出来,||
L*****s
发帖数: 24744
18
1.就别指望了..美国学校不搞政治这一套.都是忌讳..此外还有种族,性别这些都是敏感
的..
r*****g
发帖数: 349
19
买迪斯尼的产品,玩玩再退货,不违反迪斯尼的规定吧。如果不犯法,十万人买十万件
,每件十元到百元,玩两天再退,再买、再退,看看迪斯尼能坚持多久。
s**i
发帖数: 666
20
good point!

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
: 一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
: counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
: deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
: Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
: take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
: provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
: hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
: discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
: threatening people with bodily harm;

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B*D
发帖数: 5016
21
你在平行宇宙里面 ..
4-5岁的孩子就有带国旗帽做游戏
美帝这套爱国洗脑真的是从娃娃抓起

【在 L*****s 的大作中提到】
: 1.就别指望了..美国学校不搞政治这一套.都是忌讳..此外还有种族,性别这些都是敏感
: 的..

B*********y
发帖数: 266
22
>> 1.就别指望了..美国学校不搞政治这一套.都是忌讳..此外还有种族,性别这些都是
敏感
的..
呵呵,你有孩子吗?你对美国学校(从小学、初中、到高中)熟悉吗?
这不是政治, 这是 to teach children become moral people, 这是 to promote pro
-social thoughts, values, and behaviors and to have students act as good
citizens,这是 to teach kids against violence and killing,
这是 to help kids to establish the right values and virtues.
不知道你在哪个州,哪个城市。在我们这儿,附近的三个学区,每个学区从小学、初中
、到高中都对bullying and violence and discrimination 忒别重视。
Here elementary schooler knows it is terribly wrong to bully people, (
including internet/web bullying and online libel), let alone any violent
speech and hate speech. And two offenses will immediate lead to a possible
suspension from school.
Here every middle schooler knows (from their Civil Law class) that Freedom
of Speech does not permit hate speech and ethnic harassment. Any such speech
,
gesture or conduct, writing, or display is strictly forbidden because
it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by an individual or
group, and because it may disparage or intimidate an individual or a group.
不错,美国学校对种族歧视,性别歧视 忒别敏感, 对校园violence and killing 尤
甚。所以一有些微不良苗头,便会展开教育和阻止。
比如,上周的美国两起 campus killing events,每次都是孩子从学校把消息带回家,
告诉我们 老师教育他们 violence and killing is never a way to resolve issues
or conflicts. It only escalates the issue, and for all the horrible
consequences.
告诉老师 我和我的孩子 are deeply insulted by Jimmy Kimmel's hate speech,
告诉老师 我们的担心 有的 学生 会 take words into action, 担心 有的 学生 会
being negatively influenced.
That is not only appropriate, but also totally justified and encouraged,
demonstrating what caring parents can do to protect their little ones.
a****6
发帖数: 342
23
说的很好。感谢。

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
: 一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
: counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
: deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
: Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
: take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
: provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
: hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
: discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
: threatening people with bodily harm;

K********y
发帖数: 314
24
Great idea!
Could you make a draft, so everyone can use it?

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
: 一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
: counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
: deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
: Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
: take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
: provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
: hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
: discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
: threatening people with bodily harm;

w******r
发帖数: 3156
25
多谢指正。

races!

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 纠正一下:
: 不应该用 offense 这个词, 应该用insult。
: 刚问了美国同事,
: offense 其实是个蛮轻的词,常常指 random 的, 无意的,情节不重的;
: insult 份量就重了,常常指 intentional 的,deliberate 的。
: 所以, 不应该 说 feel deeply offended, 或 Offense against one race is
: offense against ALL races!
: 而应该说: feel deeply insulted。 Insulting one race is insulting ALL races!

d***j
发帖数: 189
26
Good!
s*********n
发帖数: 10
27
最好整个email模板,我们都去往学校发。
r****9
发帖数: 250
28
顶,写信给校长了,大家一起努力呀!

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
: 一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
: counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
: deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
: Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
: take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
: provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
: hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
: discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
: threatening people with bodily harm;

f*******r
发帖数: 901
29
支持
r****9
发帖数: 250
30
sharing my email for your convenience. 开头是称呼,可以介绍一下自己孩子名字
在几年级上课
I’m writing to you regarding the recent ABC Jimmy Kimmel kids’ table show
(link attached at the bottom) which deeply shocked me and worried me because
the show promotes violence among kids. I have heard from online posts that
some kids felt very upset and are afraid other kids might take the words
into actions. With past and very recent school killing instances going on (
news links attached at the bottom), I feel the urgency of writing this
letter to you to suggest your school can provide school-wide discussion and
education against any form of violence, assault, or threatening people with
bodily harm of any race. Let’s work together to continue provide a safe
place for both students and teachers.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
you name
Jimmy Kimmel show video
http://www.scmp.com/news/china-insider/article/1337344/kill-eve
Massachusetts 14 year old boy killed math teacher Oct. 23
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/massachusetts-math-tea
Nevada middle school student killed teacher and students Oct. 21
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/21/police-respond-to-reports-

【在 B*********y 的大作中提到】
: 除了签电子请愿书,组织游行示威外,我们每个人都还可以做以下方面的努力:
: 一。 写信或打电话给你们孩子的学校(给班主任homeroom teacher, 学校咨询师
: counselor, 校长super-intendent)。 告诉他们 你和你的孩子都感觉 十分不安:
: deeply troubled, deeply upset, deeply offensed, and deeply concerned!
: Jimmy 的言行给你的孩子埋下了阴影,让你的孩子失去了安全感和信任感,担心同学会
: take words into action. 强烈要求学校对此事展开正确的教育、讨论和咨询 (
: provide school-wide discussion and education against potential prejudice,
: hatred and discrimination based on racial differences; provide school-wide
: discussion and education against any form of violence, assault, or
: threatening people with bodily harm;

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r****9
发帖数: 250
31
sharing principle's response to my email
Thank you for your email. I took a look at the links you shared and was
equally shocked and disappointed in their contents. I assure you that our
school works diligently to ensure that all students and families are treated
with respect and dignity. I am confident that your children, when they
attend XXXX, will find our teachers and students to be welcoming and the
learning environment to be safe and friendly.

show
because
that
and
with

【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: sharing my email for your convenience. 开头是称呼,可以介绍一下自己孩子名字
: 在几年级上课
: I’m writing to you regarding the recent ABC Jimmy Kimmel kids’ table show
: (link attached at the bottom) which deeply shocked me and worried me because
: the show promotes violence among kids. I have heard from online posts that
: some kids felt very upset and are afraid other kids might take the words
: into actions. With past and very recent school killing instances going on (
: news links attached at the bottom), I feel the urgency of writing this
: letter to you to suggest your school can provide school-wide discussion and
: education against any form of violence, assault, or threatening people with

u******b
发帖数: 483
32
大家写得真好,我也要发! 对了,最后的请求能否更明确一些?可否把白宫请愿的链
接也发过去?可否要求校长若他同意你的话让他也能参加到抗议的队伍(如上报学区、
给议员写信、等)?
C****2
发帖数: 859
33
Good job!
太给力了,我们就是要这种正能量。

treated

【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: sharing principle's response to my email
: Thank you for your email. I took a look at the links you shared and was
: equally shocked and disappointed in their contents. I assure you that our
: school works diligently to ensure that all students and families are treated
: with respect and dignity. I am confident that your children, when they
: attend XXXX, will find our teachers and students to be welcoming and the
: learning environment to be safe and friendly.
:
: show
: because

s****h
发帖数: 393
34
Re
j**y
发帖数: 5059
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学校最好直接针对ABC,因此到ABC网站留言,或是FCC更恰当
白宫请愿只适合中国人积聚人气

【在 u******b 的大作中提到】
: 大家写得真好,我也要发! 对了,最后的请求能否更明确一些?可否把白宫请愿的链
: 接也发过去?可否要求校长若他同意你的话让他也能参加到抗议的队伍(如上报学区、
: 给议员写信、等)?

B*********y
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住在农村,不能参加游行。
做了4页 Kimmel事件的宣传和游行传单,以助大家一臂之力。
请提建议 。
用彩打效果最好。试了下黑白打印,效果也还成。复印可能会差点,因为有图片。
可以打出来后,分发给同事(或简单的塞在 单位的 mail box 里)。
也适合游行时分发。
要的同胞们给我站内邮件,我把pdf 发给你们。
图片可以在这个link 里看到:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Parenting/32219433.html
m******m
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小孩子根本不会为这事不安,这么说就是撒谎,为达目的不择手段
C****2
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校长的回信,我的邮件就是上面那位姐妹的:
First of all, we continuously, all year long, talk about how to be safe at
our school.
I begin the year with assemblies and principal chats and review our Cody
Code of Conduct,
and Kelso choices on how to resolve conflicts with peers.
We have a counselor , Susie , that pushes into classrooms every Friday, and
trains
students on how to resolve problems, understand their emotions and self-
regulate.
In addition, we have monthly focus and discussion about inclusiveness and
how to treat
people.
I think our school does a very good job teaching respect of other races/
cultures and how
to resolve conflicts peacefully.
Although I am not familiar with the reference of Jimmy Kimmel and I do not
watch his show,
it is important that we monitor what are students are watching and I suggest
that at home,
which I am sure you already do, continue to monitor your child's television
viewing.
Nevertheless, thank you for sharing your concerns.
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