n***t
发帖数: 8357 | 1 Mr. Obama said in the briefing room. “There are very few African-American
men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when
they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.”
Well, mr. president, if you know that 44% of prison population are black and
one out of 3 black men will go to jail in their lifetime, you would
understand.
fxxking moron. |
s****b
发帖数: 2039 | 2 Of three black man, just because one of them go to jail, so the other two
should also be followed? What is your logic?
and
【在 n***t 的大作中提到】
: Mr. Obama said in the briefing room. “There are very few African-American
: men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when
: they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.”
: Well, mr. president, if you know that 44% of prison population are black and
: one out of 3 black men will go to jail in their lifetime, you would
: understand.
: fxxking moron.
|
n***t
发帖数: 8357 | 3 it's all probability.
They should be watched more closely, I mean blacks
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Of three black man, just because one of them go to jail, so the other two
: should also be followed? What is your logic?
:
: and
|
s****b
发帖数: 2039 | 4 the key is not watch, but FOLLOW
【在 n***t 的大作中提到】
: it's all probability.
: They should be watched more closely, I mean blacks
|
n***t
发帖数: 8357 | 5 then follow.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: the key is not watch, but FOLLOW
|
l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 6 Even if the man was convicted before, there is no direct relationship that
he is to commit crime this time. Then police should never question/stop
anyone because he looks suspicious. Those suspicious activities do not
warrant he will commit crime. And you can also go freely live in a community
full of criminals and sex offenders, there is no logic that even after 1000
people have been killed or raped, the 1001th will happen.
There is no way we can truly determine whether the man is malicious or not
until it really happens. If a group of gangsters look obviously malicious
knocking at your door, you will do nothing but open the door? People all
make reasonable judgement based on past experience and common sense. To many
people, when it comes to one's life/property in potential danger, 1/3
chance is too high not to be cautious. Not many people want to risk their
lives/properties to test out whether it's the 1/3 or 2/3. If you don't care,
go try it yourself.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Of three black man, just because one of them go to jail, so the other two
: should also be followed? What is your logic?
:
: and
|
p**j
发帖数: 7063 | 7 这回巴马要彻底得罪老莫了吧？
and
【在 n***t 的大作中提到】
: Mr. Obama said in the briefing room. “There are very few African-American
: men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when
: they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.”
: Well, mr. president, if you know that 44% of prison population are black and
: one out of 3 black men will go to jail in their lifetime, you would
: understand.
: fxxking moron.
|
M*P
发帖数: 6456 | 8 TM can run back to his parent house anytime.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: the key is not watch, but FOLLOW
|
b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 9 那是有felony的， 小偷小摸都不算啥。
算上这些90%都有了。 你看O8一样不交parking ticket。
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Of three black man, just because one of them go to jail, so the other two
: should also be followed? What is your logic?
:
: and
|
w*****s
发帖数: 2896 | 10 So what.
If you stick your dick head out, and look around at people's backyard; or
look through people's back door, then there is solid reason to cause alert.
As a neighborhood watchdog, of course GM had to watch out for any potential
unlawful activities, there is nothing wrong here.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: the key is not watch, but FOLLOW
|
|
|
l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 11 楼主，给你推荐一篇好文
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/31503087.html
一个纽约的黑人出租车司机曾说，在夜晚碰到黑人在路边叫车，他从来不停。他当然不
认为所有夜晚叫车的黑人都是坏蛋或强盗，但他说，只要一次判断错误，就可能把命搭
上了，他失误不起。 |
g***e
发帖数: 4074 | 12 奥巴马只说了结果，而对导致这个结果的原因却不置一词。看问题如果完全从一个种族
的角度来看，难道不是种族主义么？
最差的就是could have been me。啥意思？！是想说奥巴马自己有暴利倾向还是想说没
犯事就会被人打死？如果是映射后者，这不是赤裸裸地挑战司法么？ |
D*******o
发帖数: 3229 | 13 This guy is stirring up a racial riot. Staying home and watching TV on this
weekend may be a wise option. |
s****b
发帖数: 2039 | 14 Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
.
potential
【在 w*****s 的大作中提到】
: So what.
: If you stick your dick head out, and look around at people's backyard; or
: look through people's back door, then there is solid reason to cause alert.
: As a neighborhood watchdog, of course GM had to watch out for any potential
: unlawful activities, there is nothing wrong here.
|
b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 15 哪有怎么样， 人家维护自己地方的治安， 为民服务也有错？
相当警察也有错？
倒是抽大麻的倒是正常了？
酒后驾驶的是正常的了？
整天想偷东西的是总统的干儿子了？
这逻辑能混乱到这个地步。
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
: watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
: is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
: police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
: neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
: Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
:
: .
: potential
|
c***z
发帖数: 887 | 16 就从不交parking ticket这样的小事就可以看出O8是一个烂人.
【在 b*x 的大作中提到】
: 那是有felony的， 小偷小摸都不算啥。
: 算上这些90%都有了。 你看O8一样不交parking ticket。
|
w*****s
发帖数: 2896 | 17 Something is wrong or fishy? I don't see anything wrong, anything doubtful.
He was doing just right, and perfectly legal, and was a very responsible
person as being a watch dog. It doesn't matter he wanted to be a policeman
or not, his behavior was totally appropriate at that right moment. Any
evidence that his behavior has anything to do with his motivation to become
a policeman? or just your wild guess?
Plus, he just watched or followed because of TM's drugged suspicious
behavior, nothing more to provoke TM. What do you think you should do if you
were a watch dog?
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
: watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
: is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
: police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
: neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
: Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
:
: .
: potential
|
s****b
发帖数: 2039 | 18 He has motivation to disturb innocent people.
become
you
【在 w*****s 的大作中提到】
: Something is wrong or fishy? I don't see anything wrong, anything doubtful.
: He was doing just right, and perfectly legal, and was a very responsible
: person as being a watch dog. It doesn't matter he wanted to be a policeman
: or not, his behavior was totally appropriate at that right moment. Any
: evidence that his behavior has anything to do with his motivation to become
: a policeman? or just your wild guess?
: Plus, he just watched or followed because of TM's drugged suspicious
: behavior, nothing more to provoke TM. What do you think you should do if you
: were a watch dog?
|
w*****s
发帖数: 2896 | 19 "Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?"
其实最可笑的是, 说了一大通, 得出这么一个非常突兀的结论,同他前面讲的一大堆东
西, 一点关系都没有, 或者至少不能证明这个结论.
在他看来, "想当警察"也成了原罪了, 这牵强附会的能力真是强, 而且, 明摆着的是,
对有这种愿望GZ的成见和歧视也是赤裸裸的.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
: watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
: is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
: police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
: neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
: Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
:
: .
: potential
|
d******r
发帖数: 5008 | 20 这有什么问题么?
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
: watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
: is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
: police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
: neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
: Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
:
: .
: potential
|
|
|
d******r
发帖数: 5008 | 21 motivation is guilty? then arrest TM directly. He has
much stonger motivation to steal first.
以后凡是有motivation 打砸抢偷的，直接一枪打爆头。
以后你看到警察躲远点，他们有motivation to disturb innocent people.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: He has motivation to disturb innocent people.
:
: become
: you
|
j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 22 “innocent people”身上除了枪伤没有别的伤，芝麻人却鼻梁被打断，脑袋磕破？
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: He has motivation to disturb innocent people.
:
: become
: you
|
e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 23 The real question is, if you THINK you are being followed, is it enough
justification for you to beat up that man, banging his head against concrete
curb?
Trayvon does not know who George Zimmerman is - George could very well be an
off-duty officer, an undercover police officer, patrolling the crime-
infested neighborhood ... But all those do not matter to Trayvon - he just
decided to go ahead jump on him and beat him up - only because he thinks he
is being followed by this guy.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
: watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
: is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
: police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
: neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
: Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
:
: .
: potential
|
A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 24 也不全是，如果是胖大老黑，他也吓溜了。
concrete
an
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: The real question is, if you THINK you are being followed, is it enough
: justification for you to beat up that man, banging his head against concrete
: curb?
: Trayvon does not know who George Zimmerman is - George could very well be an
: off-duty officer, an undercover police officer, patrolling the crime-
: infested neighborhood ... But all those do not matter to Trayvon - he just
: decided to go ahead jump on him and beat him up - only because he thinks he
: is being followed by this guy.
|
b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 25 当然， O8的干儿子的姘头们觉得你们"想当警察"也成了原罪了，
只有吸毒， 醉驾， 抢劫才是正义的！！！
,
【在 w*****s 的大作中提到】
: "Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?"
: 其实最可笑的是, 说了一大通, 得出这么一个非常突兀的结论,同他前面讲的一大堆东
: 西, 一点关系都没有, 或者至少不能证明这个结论.
: 在他看来, "想当警察"也成了原罪了, 这牵强附会的能力真是强, 而且, 明摆着的是,
: 对有这种愿望GZ的成见和歧视也是赤裸裸的.
|
r**c
发帖数: 1334 | 26 你的逻辑很不对。steretype 本身基于事实，但是加于整个群体就是错误。比如我所在
的小城，90%的中国人都在中餐馆或指甲店打工，只有几个中国人在大学或医院工作。
另外，我们城市负责接收东南亚的难民。难道别人就可以假定我们都是这样吗？
and
【在 n***t 的大作中提到】
: Mr. Obama said in the briefing room. “There are very few African-American
: men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when
: they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.”
: Well, mr. president, if you know that 44% of prison population are black and
: one out of 3 black men will go to jail in their lifetime, you would
: understand.
: fxxking moron.
|
N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 27
So have you looked at TM's profile then? That kid had problems in
school, smoked pot and flipped guns on his homepage photo. The kid
was a gangster-wannabe, which was probably why he jumped on GZ to
beat him up and unfortunately got what is coming to him.
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Zimmerman tries to get a job as a policeman. He volunteer as neighborhood
: watchdog to "build resume" for later accept into police department. So he
: is very eager to catch someone in order to have a better chance to get a
: police job. And also in this sense, he is not totally "volunteer" for his
: neighborhood, he has his own purpose to be a neighborhood watchdog.
: Something is wrong or fishy here, can you feel it?
:
: .
: potential
|
A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 28 你管得了别人怎么假定你么?
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 你的逻辑很不对。steretype 本身基于事实，但是加于整个群体就是错误。比如我所在
: 的小城，90%的中国人都在中餐馆或指甲店打工，只有几个中国人在大学或医院工作。
: 另外，我们城市负责接收东南亚的难民。难道别人就可以假定我们都是这样吗？
:
: and
|
j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 29 一直觉得美国所谓 hate crime 跟天朝的“依法从严” 是一样的狗屁不通
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你管得了别人怎么假定你么?
|
e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 30 hate crime是诛心之论，有点类似“民愤极大”...
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: 一直觉得美国所谓 hate crime 跟天朝的“依法从严” 是一样的狗屁不通
|
|
|
r**c
发帖数: 1334 | 31 我管不了，但是不代表这是正确的做法。如果别人当场对我喊，Go back to your nail
shop! 我会当场反驳。按lz和你的逻辑，就是谁让你们中国人开那么多餐馆。
我在当地动物园全家被人喊过“go back to your country”, 我当场骂回去，而不会
同意因为当地很多亚洲人是难民，别人骂我是应该的。
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你管得了别人怎么假定你么?
|
A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 32 管不了，就管好你自己能管的事。
nail
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 我管不了，但是不代表这是正确的做法。如果别人当场对我喊，Go back to your nail
: shop! 我会当场反驳。按lz和你的逻辑，就是谁让你们中国人开那么多餐馆。
: 我在当地动物园全家被人喊过“go back to your country”, 我当场骂回去，而不会
: 同意因为当地很多亚洲人是难民，别人骂我是应该的。
|
d******r
发帖数: 5008 | 33 人家骂你一句你都耿耿于怀要骂回去， 要是把你压下面暴打， 你丫会不拔枪？
nail
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 我管不了，但是不代表这是正确的做法。如果别人当场对我喊，Go back to your nail
: shop! 我会当场反驳。按lz和你的逻辑，就是谁让你们中国人开那么多餐馆。
: 我在当地动物园全家被人喊过“go back to your country”, 我当场骂回去，而不会
: 同意因为当地很多亚洲人是难民，别人骂我是应该的。
|
m********a
发帖数: 1312 | 34 哥们，发现你特博爱。明天黑哥们游行，记得一定去参加，别因为是黑人区就不去了，
人那地盘多安全呀，每年才死那么点人，剩下大多数都是友善的黑人同胞。明天一定去
哈。
【在 s****b 的大作中提到】
: Of three black man, just because one of them go to jail, so the other two
: should also be followed? What is your logic?
:
: and
|
c***z
发帖数: 887 | 35 O8完全是意淫. 对一般人来说,躲都来不及,谁还FOLLOW这些垃圾. |
n****l
发帖数: 6652 | 36 巴马最近来大姨妈，紊乱了。他该好好想想别人为什么这么做?
and
【在 n***t 的大作中提到】
: Mr. Obama said in the briefing room. “There are very few African-American
: men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when
: they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.”
: Well, mr. president, if you know that 44% of prison population are black and
: one out of 3 black men will go to jail in their lifetime, you would
: understand.
: fxxking moron.
|
RR
发帖数: 561 | 37 let's vote him out.
oh wait,,, he is on his last term..
and
【在 n***t 的大作中提到】
: Mr. Obama said in the briefing room. “There are very few African-American
: men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when
: they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.”
: Well, mr. president, if you know that 44% of prison population are black and
: one out of 3 black men will go to jail in their lifetime, you would
: understand.
: fxxking moron.
|
r**c
发帖数: 1334 | 38 我要有枪会的。估计你丫也就是讪讪地嘀咕两句“他不是骂我”，就心情豁然开朗，迎
着朝阳回家了。
【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 人家骂你一句你都耿耿于怀要骂回去， 要是把你压下面暴打， 你丫会不拔枪？
:
: nail
|
S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 39 LOL, +1 on this.
一些人吃饱喝得了坐在自己家的大房子里， 吹着空调上着网然后指责别人堤防黑人是
种族主义。 不妨出去转转， 上LA的几个ghetto区溜达一圈。
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 哥们，发现你特博爱。明天黑哥们游行，记得一定去参加，别因为是黑人区就不去了，
: 人那地盘多安全呀，每年才死那么点人，剩下大多数都是友善的黑人同胞。明天一定去
: 哈。
|
p*******o
发帖数: 1464 | 40 看你敢骂回去，支持你一下。不过我觉得你前面的评论有问题。别人根据自己的生活经
验对不认识的陌生人有一定程度的假定是再正常不过的。每个人莫不如此。只要他没有
采取妨碍或侮辱人的行动。即使他有，我相信你也只会采取和他的行为对应的反击手段
，口头侮辱，你就骂回去；有身体接触，你阻止他。但你绝不会上升暴力的级别，即使
对方肯定打不过你。这些都是common sense。
TM这件事，根据庭审证据，是他提升了暴力的级别，最后导致了悲剧。如果黑人社团一
味忽略这一点，其实是挑战了大家的common sense。佛州法律允许用致命行动来自卫，
TM生活在那个州，应该预见到打人后果可能很严重，至少他父母应该这么教他吧。
其实很多黑人都认可审判结果，呼吁改变这个法律，是他们的权利。但是奥巴马作为总
统，不是没受过教育， 分不清轻重的普通黑人，为黑人社团的利益，到挑战common
sense的程度，的确只能说是政客行径了。
nail
【在 r**c 的大作中提到】
: 我管不了，但是不代表这是正确的做法。如果别人当场对我喊，Go back to your nail
: shop! 我会当场反驳。按lz和你的逻辑，就是谁让你们中国人开那么多餐馆。
: 我在当地动物园全家被人喊过“go back to your country”, 我当场骂回去，而不会
: 同意因为当地很多亚洲人是难民，别人骂我是应该的。
|
|
|
j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 41 one of the thousands comments from CNN:
SHUT THE F UP! This guy comes on knowing this a tense situation and when he
says he could be Trayvon, it incites people more. Really you could have been
Trayvon? Did you have gold teeth at 17? Did you smoke pot and have pictures
of guns in you collection? Sis you get suspended from school for fighting?
Did they search your backpack as school and find a screw driver and Jewelry
that did not belong to you?
This was a ridiculous statement for Obama. Why did he not come out and ask
why the parents did not spend more time with Trayvon for family values? Why
did he not SAY FROM THE START, that Trayvon should never have assaulted
Zimmerman? WHy is he not asking how come the parents are now spending all
time on Trayvon when they are making money off him? Did he try to initiate
anything that would prevent little kids from dying from Black on black
crimes which is a huge issue?
I was happy to see an African American voted in as President, but from the
initial years when he made a comment he should not have about his friend
with the confrontation with the police, to now he has shown he should never
have been elected and has DONE NOTHING to help race relations |
A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 42 离开稿子就弱智到高中生水平的例子不少吧?
he
been
pictures
?
Jewelry
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: one of the thousands comments from CNN:
: SHUT THE F UP! This guy comes on knowing this a tense situation and when he
: says he could be Trayvon, it incites people more. Really you could have been
: Trayvon? Did you have gold teeth at 17? Did you smoke pot and have pictures
: of guns in you collection? Sis you get suspended from school for fighting?
: Did they search your backpack as school and find a screw driver and Jewelry
: that did not belong to you?
: This was a ridiculous statement for Obama. Why did he not come out and ask
: why the parents did not spend more time with Trayvon for family values? Why
: did he not SAY FROM THE START, that Trayvon should never have assaulted
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