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发帖数: 29846 | 1 Gun-Control Ignorance
How many times do the same arguments need to be refuted?
By Thomas Sowell
Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of “gun
control” advocates?
The key fallacy of so-called gun-control laws is that such laws do not in
fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people
bent on violence find firearms readily available.
If gun-control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered
this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the
years to leave any serious doubt about gun-control laws being not merely
futile but counterproductive.
Places and times with the strongest gun-control laws have often been places
and times with high murder rates. Washington, D.C., is a classic example,
but just one among many.
The rate of gun ownership is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but
the murder rate is higher in urban areas. The rate of gun ownership is
higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among
blacks. For the country as a whole, hand-gun ownership doubled in the late
20th century, while the murder rate went down.
The few counter-examples offered by gun-control zealots do not stand up
under scrutiny. Perhaps their strongest talking point is that Britain has
stronger gun-control laws than the United States and lower murder rates.
But, if you look back through history, you will find that Britain has had a
lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries — and,
for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun-control laws
than the United States. Indeed, neither country had stringent gun control
for most of that time.
In the middle of the 20th century, you could buy a shotgun in London with no
questions asked. New York, which at that time had had the stringent
Sullivan Law restricting gun ownership since 1911, still had several times
the gun-murder rate of London, as well as several times the London murder
rate with other weapons.
Neither guns nor gun control were the reason for the difference in murder
rates. People were the difference.
Yet many of the most zealous advocates of gun-control laws on both sides of
the Atlantic have also been advocates of leniency toward criminals.
In Britain, such people have been so successful that legal gun ownership has
been reduced almost to the vanishing point, while even most convicted
felons are not put behind bars. The crime rate, including the rate of crimes
committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the
days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms.
In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s
— after decades of ever tightening gun-ownership restrictions — there
were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies.
Gun-control zealots’ choice of Britain for comparison with the United
States has been wholly tendentious, not only because it ignored the history
of the two countries, but also because it ignored other countries with
stronger gun-control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil,
and Mexico. All of these countries have higher murder rates than the United
States.
You could compare other sets of countries and get similar results. Gun
ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the
Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun
ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland.
Guns are not the problem. People are the problem — including people who are
determined to push gun-control laws, either in ignorance of the facts or in
defiance of the facts.
There is innocent ignorance and there is invincible, dogmatic, and self-
righteous ignorance. Every tragic mass shooting seems to bring out examples
of both among gun-control advocates.
Some years back, there was a professor whose advocacy of gun control led him
to produce a “study” that became so discredited that he resigned from his
university. This column predicted at the time that this discredited study
would continue to be cited by gun-control advocates. But I had no idea that
this would happen the very next week in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
— Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. © 2012
Creators Syndicate, Inc. | g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 2 Sowell is as wise as always.
discovered
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Gun-Control Ignorance
: How many times do the same arguments need to be refuted?
: By Thomas Sowell
: Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of “gun
: control” advocates?
: The key fallacy of so-called gun-control laws is that such laws do not in
: fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people
: bent on violence find firearms readily available.
: If gun-control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered
: this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the
| k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 3 Yes, like us. Hehe.
【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: Sowell is as wise as always.
:
: discovered
| i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 4 "They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find
firearms readily available."
社会流通的枪支总量大规模减少，罪犯找枪怎么还 readily available？
拥枪派一上来就把人分成好人和坏人，把枪分成合法枪和黑枪，难道这之间就不互相转
换了？哄小孩的逻辑罢了。还捧成真经。
这次惨案就是拥多只合法枪自卫的好人犯下的滔天大罪。
黑社会还真没动力去屠杀小孩。
Tom Who？
discovered
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Gun-Control Ignorance
: How many times do the same arguments need to be refuted?
: By Thomas Sowell
: Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of “gun
: control” advocates?
: The key fallacy of so-called gun-control laws is that such laws do not in
: fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people
: bent on violence find firearms readily available.
: If gun-control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered
: this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the
| G*****o
发帖数: 315 | 5 Agree. This article is full of misleading arguments..
find
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: "They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find
: firearms readily available."
: 社会流通的枪支总量大规模减少，罪犯找枪怎么还 readily available？
: 拥枪派一上来就把人分成好人和坏人，把枪分成合法枪和黑枪，难道这之间就不互相转
: 换了？哄小孩的逻辑罢了。还捧成真经。
: 这次惨案就是拥多只合法枪自卫的好人犯下的滔天大罪。
: 黑社会还真没动力去屠杀小孩。
: Tom Who？
:
: discovered
| P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 6 傻逼。如果这个婆娘被disarm了，他儿子就没枪了
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【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Gun-Control Ignorance
: How many times do the same arguments need to be refuted?
: By Thomas Sowell
: Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of “gun
: control” advocates?
: The key fallacy of so-called gun-control laws is that such laws do not in
: fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people
: bent on violence find firearms readily available.
: If gun-control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered
: this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the
| G*****o
发帖数: 315 | 7 "Places and times with the strongest gun-control laws have often been places
and times with high murder rates. Washington, D.C., is a classic example,
but just one among many."
This is so wrong. Firstly, a strong gun-control law may means the regions
had a higher murder rate before the law. It is just a high crime region no
matter what law you have; Secondly, we have to look at the cause of the
murder. Does gun-control law increase gun related murder rate or decrease it
? Thirdly, there are many other facts supporting that strong gun-control law
reduce gun related murder. Just compare the gun related murder rate in US
and China. It is such a plain fact. But so gun-pro people are so ignorant. | g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 8 Tom who?
Sowell is a well respected black economist and conservative author.
find
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: "They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find
: firearms readily available."
: 社会流通的枪支总量大规模减少，罪犯找枪怎么还 readily available？
: 拥枪派一上来就把人分成好人和坏人，把枪分成合法枪和黑枪，难道这之间就不互相转
: 换了？哄小孩的逻辑罢了。还捧成真经。
: 这次惨案就是拥多只合法枪自卫的好人犯下的滔天大罪。
: 黑社会还真没动力去屠杀小孩。
: Tom Who？
:
: discovered
| G*****o
发帖数: 315 | 9 "Places and times with the strongest gun-control laws have often been places
and times with high murder rates. Washington, D.C., is a classic example,
but just one among many."
This is so wrong. Firstly, a strong gun-control law may means the regions
had a higher murder rate before the law. It is just a high crime region no
matter what law you have; Secondly, we have to look at the cause of the
murder. Does gun-control law increase gun related murder rate or decrease it
? Thirdly, there are many other facts supporting that strong gun-control law
reduce gun related murder. Just compare the gun related murder rate in US
and China. It is such a plain fact. But so gun-pro people are so ignorant. | g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 10 可以用中国和美国比来支持禁枪，但是不能用dc和virginia比来支持拥枪？
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【在 G*****o 的大作中提到】
: "Places and times with the strongest gun-control laws have often been places
: and times with high murder rates. Washington, D.C., is a classic example,
: but just one among many."
: This is so wrong. Firstly, a strong gun-control law may means the regions
: had a higher murder rate before the law. It is just a high crime region no
: matter what law you have; Secondly, we have to look at the cause of the
: murder. Does gun-control law increase gun related murder rate or decrease it
: ? Thirdly, there are many other facts supporting that strong gun-control law
: reduce gun related murder. Just compare the gun related murder rate in US
: and China. It is such a plain fact. But so gun-pro people are so ignorant.
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