k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 1 the pay table can be viewed at
http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/gs.asp
you can change 12 to previous years to see how much changes there were
year by year since 03.
It seems Obama has froze their salary for three years
while under Bush, it kept going up
That's the problem of this GOP, they kept talking about smaller government
but kept doing the opposite when they were in power
The fact that the mainstream GOP has not been doing what they promised
was the root cause of the rise of the Tea Party. Unfortunately, the tea
party movement was soon hijacked by the extreme right wingers.
I have no trust on Romney as most of his guys are those who used to be
surrounding Bush.
If you truely believe the ideas of small government and personal freedom,
vote for Gary Johnson. He won't be elected this time. But you have to have a
start to break this corrputed two-party system in order to have a chance to
fulfill those ideas sometime in the future.
Romney, Obama, Bush are all on the same boat so don't expect any meaningful
changes among this group of clowns. |
P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | |
A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 3 别瞎整这些无意义的小儿科统计了
under GOP是什么意思？under GOP's presidency? 那国会那些狗娘养的也是GOP?
同样道理，民主党的总统也是加上共和党的国会。别把这些东西都贴到总统一人身上。
a
to
meaningful
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: the pay table can be viewed at
: http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/gs.asp
: you can change 12 to previous years to see how much changes there were
: year by year since 03.
: It seems Obama has froze their salary for three years
: while under Bush, it kept going up
: That's the problem of this GOP, they kept talking about smaller government
: but kept doing the opposite when they were in power
: The fact that the mainstream GOP has not been doing what they promised
: was the root cause of the rise of the Tea Party. Unfortunately, the tea
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 4 between 2001-2007, GOP had majority in both house and senate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_C
they blew it, what else excuse you can have?
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 别瞎整这些无意义的小儿科统计了
: under GOP是什么意思？under GOP's presidency? 那国会那些狗娘养的也是GOP?
: 同样道理，民主党的总统也是加上共和党的国会。别把这些东西都贴到总统一人身上。
:
: a
: to
: meaningful
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A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 5 现在你又讨论single case了？不统计了？
你思考问题的方式不科学，phd毕业了再来考虑这些问题吧
上。
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: between 2001-2007, GOP had majority in both house and senate
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_C
: they blew it, what else excuse you can have?
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P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 6 你也开始慕菊了？
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 别瞎整这些无意义的小儿科统计了
: under GOP是什么意思？under GOP's presidency? 那国会那些狗娘养的也是GOP?
: 同样道理，民主党的总统也是加上共和党的国会。别把这些东西都贴到总统一人身上。
:
: a
: to
: meaningful
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 7 I have presented the fact here
everybody can draw his own conclusion
lol
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 现在你又讨论single case了？不统计了？
: 你思考问题的方式不科学，phd毕业了再来考虑这些问题吧
:
: 上。
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t**x
发帖数: 20965 | 8 版主傻瓜
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: the pay table can be viewed at
: http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/gs.asp
: you can change 12 to previous years to see how much changes there were
: year by year since 03.
: It seems Obama has froze their salary for three years
: while under Bush, it kept going up
: That's the problem of this GOP, they kept talking about smaller government
: but kept doing the opposite when they were in power
: The fact that the mainstream GOP has not been doing what they promised
: was the root cause of the rise of the Tea Party. Unfortunately, the tea
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 9 你这步子挺大，不过美国公务员涨工资一般都是上届给下届长，本届不能给自己涨，所
以你应该看得是2000年以前是谁把持国会
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: between 2001-2007, GOP had majority in both house and senate
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_C
: they blew it, what else excuse you can have?
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 10 why don't you just take a look at the link
GOP took control of both Senate and House after 1995
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 你这步子挺大，不过美国公务员涨工资一般都是上届给下届长，本届不能给自己涨，所
: 以你应该看得是2000年以前是谁把持国会
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P*O
发帖数: 4324 | 11 看来小左的脑瓜里真是分不清现实和理想，居然想着从工资涨幅上去比较gop和dem。
醒醒吧，工资和通胀相关。2001年的时候银行利息都有3%，4%呢。
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: why don't you just take a look at the link
: GOP took control of both Senate and House after 1995
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 12 if you promise to your voters that you are going to get smaller government
you have to get rid of the rule of making 工资和通胀相关
especially when you have both administration and congress under control
government employees should not be paid more than private sectors, period.
it should have nothing to do with 通胀.
BTW, if Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are considered left wing by you, who else
are still on the right wing?
【在 P*O 的大作中提到】
: 看来小左的脑瓜里真是分不清现实和理想，居然想着从工资涨幅上去比较gop和dem。
: 醒醒吧，工资和通胀相关。2001年的时候银行利息都有3%，4%呢。
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i**y
发帖数: 1170 | 13 我不太懂，您是支持小政府还是大政府？我看您是支持小政府，所以拿出来GOP所谓的
大政府数据？
所以您是支持小政府和DEM？真是奇观。
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: the pay table can be viewed at
: http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/gs.asp
: you can change 12 to previous years to see how much changes there were
: year by year since 03.
: It seems Obama has froze their salary for three years
: while under Bush, it kept going up
: That's the problem of this GOP, they kept talking about smaller government
: but kept doing the opposite when they were in power
: The fact that the mainstream GOP has not been doing what they promised
: was the root cause of the rise of the Tea Party. Unfortunately, the tea
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 14 I have been consistently supporting Ron Paul for many years
my vote goes to Gary Johnson after GOP nominated the clown Romney
DEM is for bigger government and running the welfare system, everybody
knows it
this GOP mainstream talks about smaller government but they did the opposite
when they were in power
Both DEM and GOP have been running for bigger government, one way or another
【在 i**y 的大作中提到】
: 我不太懂，您是支持小政府还是大政府？我看您是支持小政府，所以拿出来GOP所谓的
: 大政府数据？
: 所以您是支持小政府和DEM？真是奇观。
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P*O
发帖数: 4324 | 15 估计还没上班挣工资吧，等超级通胀来了，小左们为了理想请要求老板不要涨工资。
else
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: if you promise to your voters that you are going to get smaller government
: you have to get rid of the rule of making 工资和通胀相关
: especially when you have both administration and congress under control
: government employees should not be paid more than private sectors, period.
: it should have nothing to do with 通胀.
: BTW, if Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are considered left wing by you, who else
: are still on the right wing?
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 16 布什8年除了最后一年，经济还是不错的。经济好的时候加点工资也算正常吧？
不过布什也算是个big-government的家伙。他那些年的共和党国会成员也不是很得人心
。这几年由于tea party运动，换了不少fiscal conservatives上去。有所改观。
看看这个：
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-05-31
Federal employment grew 13% — 250,000 jobs — from the recession's start in
December 2007 to a peak last September. During that time, private
employment fell 5% and state and local governments cut staffs by 2%.
2007年民主党已经控制国会了。加人手显然比单纯加工资耗费还要多。
从去年9月开始才出现联邦政府减员趋向。目前共和党只掌握众议院。
【在 P*O 的大作中提到】
: 看来小左的脑瓜里真是分不清现实和理想，居然想着从工资涨幅上去比较gop和dem。
: 醒醒吧，工资和通胀相关。2001年的时候银行利息都有3%，4%呢。
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 17 Were'nt we in a recession during 2000-2003 after dot-com bubble?
in
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: 布什8年除了最后一年，经济还是不错的。经济好的时候加点工资也算正常吧？
: 不过布什也算是个big-government的家伙。他那些年的共和党国会成员也不是很得人心
: 。这几年由于tea party运动，换了不少fiscal conservatives上去。有所改观。
: 看看这个：
: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-05-31
: Federal employment grew 13% — 250,000 jobs — from the recession's start in
: December 2007 to a peak last September. During that time, private
: employment fell 5% and state and local governments cut staffs by 2%.
: 2007年民主党已经控制国会了。加人手显然比单纯加工资耗费还要多。
: 从去年9月开始才出现联邦政府减员趋向。目前共和党只掌握众议院。
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 18 GOP has changed quite a bit, now more and more true fiscal conservatives are
running the show.
If the Dems are defeated this time, it is their turn to get rid of people
like Pelosi and Reid.
opposite
another
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: I have been consistently supporting Ron Paul for many years
: my vote goes to Gary Johnson after GOP nominated the clown Romney
: DEM is for bigger government and running the welfare system, everybody
: knows it
: this GOP mainstream talks about smaller government but they did the opposite
: when they were in power
: Both DEM and GOP have been running for bigger government, one way or another
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 19 Yes but Bush's policies were able to pull the economy back relatively fast,
not like Obama.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: Were'nt we in a recession during 2000-2003 after dot-com bubble?
:
: in
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 20 the Tea Party movement certainly moved GOP to the right direction
but if they don't touch the real source, which is the FED, I don't believe
they can achieve fiscal conservatism.
Is it a surprise that there was'nt a single word on the FED in any of the
three debates?
are
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: GOP has changed quite a bit, now more and more true fiscal conservatives are
: running the show.
: If the Dems are defeated this time, it is their turn to get rid of people
: like Pelosi and Reid.
:
: opposite
: another
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l******d
发帖数: 1633 | 21 at least you need to compare salary to GDP ratio, or salary to inflation
ratio
raw data is less convincing here
a
to
meaningful
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: the pay table can be viewed at
: http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/gs.asp
: you can change 12 to previous years to see how much changes there were
: year by year since 03.
: It seems Obama has froze their salary for three years
: while under Bush, it kept going up
: That's the problem of this GOP, they kept talking about smaller government
: but kept doing the opposite when they were in power
: The fact that the mainstream GOP has not been doing what they promised
: was the root cause of the rise of the Tea Party. Unfortunately, the tea
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 22 Look, it is a decision of whether you want Obama or Romney. Romney might
not be ideal for you, but I have a hard time believing Obama is better for
Ron Paul's supporters.
Unless you want the American people to suffer four more years under Obama to
further your faction's agenda. To that I say it sounds very selfish.
Tea Party movement is consistent with Dr. Paul's vision, and we can thank
his support for that, but we need to be practical, don't let passion cloud
your mind.
在 kafen (Tiffany & Co) 的大作中提到: 】 |
k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 23 Just listen to what Ron Paul said on Obama vs Romney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrG6CX5c-xU
if you don't think out of the box and try to break down the corrputed
two-party system, what you get from your choice can only be marginal.
to
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: Look, it is a decision of whether you want Obama or Romney. Romney might
: not be ideal for you, but I have a hard time believing Obama is better for
: Ron Paul's supporters.
: Unless you want the American people to suffer four more years under Obama to
: further your faction's agenda. To that I say it sounds very selfish.
: Tea Party movement is consistent with Dr. Paul's vision, and we can thank
: his support for that, but we need to be practical, don't let passion cloud
: your mind.
: 在 kafen (Tiffany & Co) 的大作中提到: 】
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 24 None of what Ron talked about concern the middle Americans, who are voting
for difference between job and no-job, poor economy and better economy.
Yes both candidates took money to run their campaigns, but this is a
capitalism country with law and order, everybody is entitled to LEGALLY
protect their interests, doesn't matter they are billionaires or homeless.
It is not an utopia, but it still is the best system known to mankind.
The difference might be marginal to you, but it is a lot more significant
for the average people who are still hurting after four years. Try to let
this sink in.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: Just listen to what Ron Paul said on Obama vs Romney
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrG6CX5c-xU
: if you don't think out of the box and try to break down the corrputed
: two-party system, what you get from your choice can only be marginal.
:
: to
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d*****s
发帖数: 5610 | 25 我一直是这么评论共和党的，就是光说不练。
不过你不要对这个版上的共和党支持者说教，大多数共和党的支持者都是朝三暮四里面
的猴子，就是特喜欢听简单的话，特别gullible。
opposite
another
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: I have been consistently supporting Ron Paul for many years
: my vote goes to Gary Johnson after GOP nominated the clown Romney
: DEM is for bigger government and running the welfare system, everybody
: knows it
: this GOP mainstream talks about smaller government but they did the opposite
: when they were in power
: Both DEM and GOP have been running for bigger government, one way or another
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