f*****h
发帖数: 228 | 1 a quote from Christopher Hitchens. For all the creationists here. |
l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 2 sorry for my ignorance, who is Christopher Hitchens?
I wasn't able to find any papers from him in any major biological/natural
science journals.
And the name doesn't ring a bell for any past known biologists/scientists...
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: a quote from Christopher Hitchens. For all the creationists here.
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f*****h
发帖数: 228 | 3 a very good author, died of cancer last year, wrote alot of amusing things,
i can't wait to meet him in hell
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: sorry for my ignorance, who is Christopher Hitchens?
: I wasn't able to find any papers from him in any major biological/natural
: science journals.
: And the name doesn't ring a bell for any past known biologists/scientists...
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 4 so he is not a scientist?
What makes him think that he is qualified to offer any serious comments on a
science subject?
or maybe we shalln't take his comments seriously?
Honestly, is it unwise to comment on a subject matter that he
probably has no clue?
,
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: a very good author, died of cancer last year, wrote alot of amusing things,
: i can't wait to meet him in hell
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f*****h
发帖数: 228 | 5 he is not talking about creationists....I just used this quote because it's
so suitable
a
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: so he is not a scientist?
: What makes him think that he is qualified to offer any serious comments on a
: science subject?
: or maybe we shalln't take his comments seriously?
: Honestly, is it unwise to comment on a subject matter that he
: probably has no clue?
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 6 IC. that makes sense. Ｉwas wondering why a famous author/journalist would
behave so stupid, to comment on a subject matter that he has little domain
knowledge. I was wrong.
s
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: he is not talking about creationists....I just used this quote because it's
: so suitable
:
: a
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f*****h
发帖数: 228 | 7 oh, hope you will find out more things that you are wrong about
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: IC. that makes sense. Ｉwas wondering why a famous author/journalist would
: behave so stupid, to comment on a subject matter that he has little domain
: knowledge. I was wrong.
:
: s
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 8 all the time... that's the process of learning. hope someday you would
realize this truth as well.
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: oh, hope you will find out more things that you are wrong about
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 9 那这句话一定比较适合你的癖好
A mind like that, it seems to me is, well, a disgrace to the Human species.
“I mean the most extreme case is the geologist Kurt Wise, who has a PhD in
Geology from Harvard and said “If all the evidence in the universe pointed
towards an old Earth, I would be the first to admit it but I would still be
a young Earth creationist because that is what Holy scripture teaches me”.
You cannot argue with a mind like that. A mind like that, it seems to me is,
well, a disgrace to the Human species.”
-Richard Dawkins, talking about people who believe in creationism.
..
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: sorry for my ignorance, who is Christopher Hitchens?
: I wasn't able to find any papers from him in any major biological/natural
: science journals.
: And the name doesn't ring a bell for any past known biologists/scientists...
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 10 You cannot argue with a mind like Richard Dawkins either... assulting
fellowing scientists because they have a different scientific belief.
in
pointed
be
.
is,
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 那这句话一定比较适合你的癖好
: A mind like that, it seems to me is, well, a disgrace to the Human species.
: “I mean the most extreme case is the geologist Kurt Wise, who has a PhD in
: Geology from Harvard and said “If all the evidence in the universe pointed
: towards an old Earth, I would be the first to admit it but I would still be
: a young Earth creationist because that is what Holy scripture teaches me”.
: You cannot argue with a mind like that. A mind like that, it seems to me is,
: well, a disgrace to the Human species.”
: -Richard Dawkins, talking about people who believe in creationism.
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 11 creationism是个宗教信仰，和科学无关，哪点scientific了我很好奇，你能不能展开
讲讲？
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: You cannot argue with a mind like Richard Dawkins either... assulting
: fellowing scientists because they have a different scientific belief.
:
: in
: pointed
: be
: .
: is,
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 12 stay! you'll be amused endless by Christians here.
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: a quote from Christopher Hitchens. For all the creationists here.
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Y**L
发帖数: 385 | 13 I co-quote.
'I've never seen adults behaving so stupid'
This might be very suitable for you as well, hehe.
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: a quote from Christopher Hitchens. For all the creationists here.
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 14 你说人家愚蠢要给个例子出来，楼主怎么very suitable了，因为他不信基督徒教？
【在 Y**L 的大作中提到】
: I co-quote.
: 'I've never seen adults behaving so stupid'
: This might be very suitable for you as well, hehe.
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Y**L
发帖数: 385 | 15 这还需要例子？没见你找你这个楼主小弟要哪，呵呵
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你说人家愚蠢要给个例子出来，楼主怎么very suitable了，因为他不信基督徒教？
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f*****h
发帖数: 228 | 16 Well, I think Christians should endure being ridiculed and persecuted for
the 'Kingdom's sake', we infidels, however, aren't obliged to do that.
【在 Y**L 的大作中提到】
: 这还需要例子？没见你找你这个楼主小弟要哪，呵呵
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z********o
发帖数: 18304 | 17 我不懂进化论，所以我一般不参与进化论的讨论。
但要注意：就算进化论是错误的，基督教依然是骗人的，基督教依然是邪恶的。
基督教强烈扭曲人性，这是可以简单地论证清楚的：
很简单的逻辑论证，请大家思考：
1）基督徒们相信“圣经”的记载都是真实的。
2）“圣经”记载了耶和华/耶稣多次大规模屠杀婴儿，甚至__使__人们吃自己儿女
的肉这样令人发指的暴行。
3）因此，基督徒们相信耶和华/耶稣真的大规模屠杀婴儿并且干过_使_人们吃自己
儿女的肉这样的事。
4）但是，基督徒们不仅不谴责这样的暴行，反而是赞美！
因此，我们的结论是：基督教信仰强烈地扭曲了基督徒们的人性！
相关经文很多，仅举一例：
耶利米书
19：9 我必使他们在围困窘迫之中，就是仇敌和寻索其命的人窘迫他们的时候，各
人吃自己儿女的肉和朋友的肉。
I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they
will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them
by the enemies who seek their lives.'
中文：“我必使......各人吃自己儿女的肉和朋友的肉。”
英文：“I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters”
中英文对照，清清楚楚，明明白白，基督教的“上帝”（或者：“神”）耶和华/耶稣
完全是__主动地__有意地__使__人们吃自己儿女的肉！
基督徒们或许会狡辩说，那都是因为人有罪啊！假设人都有罪好了，基督教的“上帝”
耶和华/耶稣用“__使__人们吃自己儿女的肉”这样的方法来惩罚人们，足以说明耶和
华/耶稣是何等的邪恶了！
有些基督徒还狡辩说，这里“使”的意思起实施”任凭“。这种“解释”是说不通的。
原因有两个：一是看英文版并没有“任凭”的意思，二是“圣经”翻译的时候，“全知
全能”的“上帝”管不管啊？如果管，会出现这种翻译错误吗？由此可见，基督徒们的
狡辩是说不过去的。
再补充一节经文：耶和华/耶稣下令屠杀，耶和华/耶稣还特别强调连还在吃奶的婴儿都
要杀掉。类似的经文“圣经”里还有不少。
撒母耳记上
15：2 万军之耶和华如此说，以色列人出埃及的时候，在路上亚玛力人怎样待他们，怎
样抵挡他们，我都没忘。
15：3 现在你要去击打亚玛力人，灭尽他们所有的，不可怜惜他们，将男女，孩童，吃
奶的，并牛，羊，骆驼，和驴尽行杀死。 |
z********o
发帖数: 18304 | 18 基督徒们的愚蠢和虚伪还表现在：
“圣经”“新约”明确要求女基督徒们在教会要“闭口不言”，基们遵守吗？
“圣经”“新约”明确要求基督徒们生病的时候要请人来抹油/祷告，基们遵守吗？
基们嘴巴上把“圣经”说的神圣无比，行动上却把“圣经”的教导当成一个P放了。 |
l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 19 例子？你们表现得还不够么？你说楼主的例子呢？
【在 Y**L 的大作中提到】
: 这还需要例子？没见你找你这个楼主小弟要哪，呵呵
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 20 对了，上帝存在是truth么？
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: all the time... that's the process of learning. hope someday you would
: realize this truth as well.
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Y**L
发帖数: 385 | 21 你凭什么替人家给例子？
楼主无故骂人，你屁不放一个。俺用他的话回回。你犯什么急？
俺回他也没超过他的尺度，原话啊。呵呵，杀人可以，自卫不许？
朋友，你心有点歪，这样谁也没法和你作版友。
看看，上次老霍还币晚了点，你们对他人格凌辱，就差对他精神鞭尸，永世不得翻身。
他是慢半拍，但俺不觉着他会吞那点币。你们纯粹如街头流氓欺负人。
后来老七讲什么姚晨母基什么欲火攻心，连老E和Robbin这些飞机也看不下去，你作为
女士竟还觉着老七讲的好，‘真’。
满口的仁义道德，常干这些勾当，影响形象啊。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 例子？你们表现得还不够么？你说楼主的例子呢？
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 22 樓主好像不是無故，是來回好一陣子才發現的。
【在 Y**L 的大作中提到】
: 你凭什么替人家给例子？
: 楼主无故骂人，你屁不放一个。俺用他的话回回。你犯什么急？
: 俺回他也没超过他的尺度，原话啊。呵呵，杀人可以，自卫不许？
: 朋友，你心有点歪，这样谁也没法和你作版友。
: 看看，上次老霍还币晚了点，你们对他人格凌辱，就差对他精神鞭尸，永世不得翻身。
: 他是慢半拍，但俺不觉着他会吞那点币。你们纯粹如街头流氓欺负人。
: 后来老七讲什么姚晨母基什么欲火攻心，连老E和Robbin这些飞机也看不下去，你作为
: 女士竟还觉着老七讲的好，‘真’。
: 满口的仁义道德，常干这些勾当，影响形象啊。
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Y**L
发帖数: 385 | 23 俺也是打量了他好几眼才发现他suitable for 'stupid'
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】
: 樓主好像不是無故，是來回好一陣子才發現的。
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 24
說說， 哪點 stupid 了？
順便問一下， 說人 stupid 不算論斷吧？
【在 Y**L 的大作中提到】
: 俺也是打量了他好几眼才发现他suitable for 'stupid'
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 25 拍拍，别跳啦，你们这种言行举止，譬如说阁下这堆有的没的发散思维就是说你们那啥
的原因，我以为正常智商的人不需要进一步解释
【在 Y**L 的大作中提到】
: 你凭什么替人家给例子？
: 楼主无故骂人，你屁不放一个。俺用他的话回回。你犯什么急？
: 俺回他也没超过他的尺度，原话啊。呵呵，杀人可以，自卫不许？
: 朋友，你心有点歪，这样谁也没法和你作版友。
: 看看，上次老霍还币晚了点，你们对他人格凌辱，就差对他精神鞭尸，永世不得翻身。
: 他是慢半拍，但俺不觉着他会吞那点币。你们纯粹如街头流氓欺负人。
: 后来老七讲什么姚晨母基什么欲火攻心，连老E和Robbin这些飞机也看不下去，你作为
: 女士竟还觉着老七讲的好，‘真’。
: 满口的仁义道德，常干这些勾当，影响形象啊。
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