T1 发帖数: 4732 | 1 WikiLeaks: China weary of North Korea behaving like 'spoiled child'
这个wikileak越来越象一场闹剧了,美国一手导演的。 |
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W***n 发帖数: 11530 | 2 IBM is teaching AI to behave more like the human brain
Engadget Andrew Tarantola,Engadget Fri, Sep 1 11:00 AM PDT
Since the days of Da Vinci's "Ornithoper", mankind's greatest minds have
sought inspiration from the natural world for their technological creations.
It's no different in the modern world, where bleeding-edge advancements in
machine learning and artificial intelligence have begun taking their design
cues from the most advanced computational organ in the natural word: the
human brain... 阅读全帖 |
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a******1 发帖数: 1031 | 3 无神论者可以但不必behave ethically
如果不存在一神教的道德神 那就没有the judgment day 那所有人的选择只能基于成本
利益计算。良心只能是枷锁,无法带来任何好处
道德/风俗/习惯在无神论的前提下只是社会为了the greater good而约定俗成的条约。
如果我和监督人是好哥们,或者如果我腰里有枪而监督人没有,那nothing can stop
me from breaking the rules and benefiting from it. And I'd happily be the
biggest and the baddest dude on the block |
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a******9 发帖数: 20431 | 4 我们教的神规定砍异教徒的才算好人
:无神论者可以但不必behave ethically
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 5 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/11/nsa-surveil
NSA surveillance: The US is behaving like China
Both governments think they are doing what is best for the state and people.
But, as I know, such abuse of power can ruin lives
Ai Weiwei
The Guardian, Tuesday 11 June 2013 09.30 EDT
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and Barack Obama appear on the front pages
of local papers in Hong Kong on 11 June 2013. Photograph: Bobby Yip/Reuters
Even though we know governments do all ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 6 Mostly Peaceful Gay Marriage Supporter Punches Man in Face Outside Supreme
Court Hearings
by Jammie
A professional activist, if that’s what you want to call him. A sterling
resume dating back to the Occupy DC movement and protesting in support of
the late thug Trayvon Martin. Now he’s MovedOn to gay marriage. Sounds like
a swell guy.
Midway through a National Organization protest in front of the US
Supreme Court building, punches flew. One, which landed on the face of a
marcher, was thrown b... 阅读全帖 |
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N*********n 发帖数: 360 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: NoRainNoSun (无情-也无风雨也无晴), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 我家老大是不是该去看心理医生或者behave therapist
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 4 11:48:49 2013, 美东)
各位爸爸妈妈,我家老大女娃真是个让人头疼的孩子。要说她也六岁半快七岁了,但是
极其极其的黏我。不接受去别人家playdate,除非我全程看着她,除了上学。去什么活
动去哪必须我有在身边,如果我有一分钟不在她的视线里就会panic,马上大哭,
screaming。比如说我要是去超市,就必须看着我,偶尔离她远点近点都要大喊大叫。
我要去任何地方,即使家里有人看她,也必须跟着我去,总是就是不正常的黏我。要说
我回想起来她从小成长的环境很正常,一直和父母生活在一起,我们也从来没有长时间
的离开她,也没有过什么accident,abuse之类,不是到为什么这么缺乏安全感。我有
意识的给她渐渐地锻炼,说过很多次了,没什么改变。
还有她其他事情也是非常的strongwilled,特有主意,要她做点不想... 阅读全帖 |
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N*********n 发帖数: 360 | 9 【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: NoRainNoSun (无情-也无风雨也无晴), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 我家老大是不是该去看心理医生或者behave therapist
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 4 11:48:49 2013, 美东)
各位爸爸妈妈,我家老大女娃真是个让人头疼的孩子。要说她也六岁半快七岁了,但是
极其极其的黏我。不接受去别人家playdate,除非我全程看着她,除了上学。去什么活
动去哪必须我有在身边,如果我有一分钟不在她的视线里就会panic,马上大哭,
screaming。比如说我要是去超市,就必须看着我,偶尔离她远点近点都要大喊大叫。
我要去任何地方,即使家里有人看她,也必须跟着我去,总是就是不正常的黏我。要说
我回想起来她从小成长的环境很正常,一直和父母生活在一起,我们也从来没有长时间
的离开她,也没有过什么accident,abuse之类,不是到为什么这么缺乏安全感。我有
意识的给她渐渐地锻炼,说过很多次了,没什么改变。
还有她其他事情也是非常的strongwilled,特有主意,要她做点不想... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****l 发帖数: 1844 | 10 Superficially she is upset with the call, what makes her dare to behave like
this is discrimination deep inside... |
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L*******y 发帖数: 637 | 11 It is normal.
It takes at least 20+ years for them to behave normal.
Do not blame girls from asia too much since they have difficult time to
make a decent living. |
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l**********t 发帖数: 5754 | 12 IC. that makes sense. Iwas wondering why a famous author/journalist would
behave so stupid, to comment on a subject matter that he has little domain
knowledge. I was wrong.
s |
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Y**L 发帖数: 385 | 13 I co-quote.
'I've never seen adults behaving so stupid'
This might be very suitable for you as well, hehe. |
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l******l 发帖数: 8 | 14 I restarted windows xp in normal mode, but the system behaves as in safe mode.
Most programs, which should be loaded while starting up, appear at the right
bottom corner, did not show up.
I tried to launch MS office word, I got warning message as: |
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f**d 发帖数: 768 | 16 这是一本计算神经科学的优秀著作,全文拷贝这里(图和公式缺),有兴趣的同学可以
阅读
如需要,我可以分享PDF文件(--仅供个人学习,无商业用途)
From Computer to Brain
William W. Lytton
From Computer to Brain
Foundations of Computational Neuroscience
Springer
William W. Lytton, M.D.
Associate Professor, State University of New York, Downstato, Brooklyn, NY
Visiting Associate Professor, University of Wisconsin, Madison
Visiting Associate Professor, Polytechnic University, Brooklyn, NY
Staff Neurologist., Kings County Hospital, Brooklyn, NY
In From Computer to Brain: ... 阅读全帖 |
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M****o 发帖数: 4860 | 17 就是,起码也得写下面这篇这么长。。。
Why I Am Not A Christian
What Is a Christian?
Nowadays it is not quite that. We have to be a little more vague in our
meaning of Christianity. I think, however, that there are two different
items which are quite essential to anybody calling himself a Christian. The
first is one of a dogmatic nature -- namely, that you must believe in God
and immortality. If you do not believe in those two things, I do not think
that you can properly call yourself a Christian. Then, further tha... 阅读全帖 |
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g****m 发帖数: 996 | 18 Religion and Psychiatry
Irvin Yalom
宗教与精神病学
欧文亚隆
The American Psychiatric Association awarded Irvin Yalom the 2000 Oscar
Pfister prize (for important contributions to religion and psychiatry.) Here
is his acceptance speech delivered at the American Psychiatric Association
annual meeting in May 2000 at New Orleans. A version of this lecture has
been published in the American Journal of Psychotherapy (number three –
2002)
美国精神卫生协会将2000年奥斯卡菲斯特奖颁给欧文亚隆,奖励他在宗教与精神病学方
面做出的重要贡献。下面是他在2000年5月新奥尔良举行的美... 阅读全帖 |
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S******8 发帖数: 24594 | 19 From May 2016: How Donald Trump behaved with women in private
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Reply to @nytimes
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ghadeer USA @ghadeerUSA 15m15 minut... 阅读全帖 |
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l******a 发帖数: 16364 | 20 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
crisy (糖糖妈) 于 (Wed Mar 14 15:14:53 2012, 美东) 提到:
小女3岁4个月大。她的preschool的老师一直说她有"leadership"(很有可能是客套话).
这个特性,以前表现在组织班上的小朋友一起玩游戏。这是好的一面。
最近表现在,教唆小朋友帮她从别的小朋友手里抢玩具(自己不去抢),拿来给她玩;
让别的小朋友把玩具带到高处(老师规定不准),这样她可以在高处玩这些玩具等等之
类的事情。这是不好的一面。
请问,有没有经历过类似的孩子的父母,如何去掉不好的一面,保存好的一面?
还是说这个很常见,是小孩发育的必经之路?
请指教,谢谢!
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lulakoala (lulakoala) 于 (Wed Mar 14 15:20:04 2012, 美东) 提到:
A very smart girl! As long as she knows where to draw the lin... 阅读全帖 |
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o**1 发帖数: 6383 | 21 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
MarketMaker (BigWave) 于 (Wed Nov 10 16:44:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
I always thought respect is mutual.
《每日电讯报》说,卡梅伦与阁员在人民大会堂时,拒绝中方对他们除下罂粟花的要求。
该报引述随行的一名首相府人员说:“中方人员对我们说佩戴罂粟花是不恰当的,因为
两国曾经发生鸦片战争。我们告诉他们这花对我们有重大意义,我们所有人会继续佩戴
。”
很多英国人习惯在11月份在衣襟佩戴罂粟花,纪念两次大战和其他战争中牺牲的英国军
人和平民。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
The first Opium War was the beginning of a long period of weakening the
state and civil revolt in China, and long-term depopulation. In 1842, China'... 阅读全帖 |
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y***k 发帖数: 9459 | 22 Angela White ·
Las Vegas, Nevada
With all due respect, does a Professional Doctor behave this way? Why
disregard the instructions of a LEO on a commercial flight? The Feds don't
play on inappropriate A/C behavior. I am sure the full story will come out
and not just what this video shows. Thank you for coming forward.
Like · Reply · 50 · 17 hrs
当然也有反驳的
Brian Scholl ·
Mathematician at Home
Angela White "With all due respect, does a Professional Doctor [sic] behave
this way?"
Yes, a professional do... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 23 by Robert Spencer
04/05/2011
Enraged over the burning of a Koran in Florida, Muslims have murdered about
20 people in Afghanistan and five in Pakistan—none of whom ever burned a
Koran or had any acquaintance with the men who did.
These killers are monstrous. They have assassinated innocent people for
something that they couldn't conceivably have had anything to do with. And
yet instead of calling them monstrous and demanding that Islamic leaders
stop inciting and approving of such behavior, We... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 24 Max Hastings反思英国骚乱:多年的左派教条催生了不讲道德、不学无术、依赖福利、
凶狠野蛮的一代年轻人
Years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated,
welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters
By Max Hastings
Last updated at 12:49 PM on 10th August 2011
A few weeks after the U.S. city of Detroit was ravaged by 1967 race riots in
which 43 people died, I was shown around the wrecked areas by a black
reporter named Joe Strickland.
He said: ‘Don’t you believe all that stuff people here are giving media
folk about how sorr... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****g 发帖数: 21627 | 25 Michael Lewis: Did Goldman Sachs Overstep in Criminally Charging Its Ex-
Programmer?
A month after ace programmer Sergey Aleynikov left Goldman Sachs, he was
arrested. Exactly what he’d done neither the F.B.I., which interrogated him
, nor the jury, which convicted him a year later, seemed to understand. But
Goldman had accused him of stealing computer code, and the 41-year-old
father of three was sentenced to eight years in federal prison.
Investigating Aleynikov’s case, Michael Lewis holds a s... 阅读全帖 |
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K******e 发帖数: 367 | 26 I think it should be contributed to the Caste system of India. Believe it or
not, if a tribe, a people, have been "destined" or "condemned" to be
merchants for over two thousands years--there got to be something that they
were able to pick up about how to be a good merchant for those two thousand
years. Simple rule of accumulation or adaption or evolution.
Indians are the only people that I have found intriguingly behaving like
their Caste. Most of the Brahmin behaves like what you would expect ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******e 发帖数: 5818 | 27 从现在的细节 看,加上 后 30 年的 behave,
我要是 senate,原来是 yes, 现在还是 yes,
除非,她还能想出 更多 的细节 ,或 再出一位女子,发现这里有某种 pattern !
加一句,一个 17 岁的男孩一个事件,和 30 多年的 behave对比,我更相信 这30多年
的 behave 更反应 现在 K judge 的 是个啥人!尤其 道德上! |
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m****n 发帖数: 45 | 28 你可能认为和地域有关,但是我不这么认为。孩子显然受父母家庭的影响最大。而且我
从来不认为台湾人都娘。她现在是公众人物,当然应该知道在公共场合下怎么behave,
用一般孩子的要求明显不合适。而且无论什么地方的孩子这么大了都能behave的很好。
其实我没有兴趣争论这么大孩子到底怎么behave才合适。我只是对于“北京女孩都这样
”有异议。我根本对她的腔调没有异议,问题是gesture和attitude。你可以拿她的标
准来衡量你家孩子,请不要说北京人都这样。 |
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l*******a 发帖数: 438 | 29 I hope you can truly lower your expectations of a 2
-year old. Your son's behaviors all sound very normal to me.
For example, at a doctor's office, you could have prepared papers and
crayons for him to do drawing. I remember when we visited a bank to open
accounts, the banking associate took out markers and papers for my son to
draw with, and he behaved very nicely. I really appreciated the banker's
help. This is the kind of parenting that your family need.
Physical punishment will break the cha... 阅读全帖 |
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l******a 发帖数: 16364 | 30 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
yonghehong (yonghehong) 于 (Tue Nov 26 16:00:05 2013, 美东) 提到:
我儿子3岁7个月,今年9月正式上pre school.之前都是我自己在家带.
我儿子说话很晚2岁半左右才开始说话,现在能说很简单的句子和父母简单的对话,复杂
的还是说不来.
我们在家说汉语,老公也让我在家推汉语.孩子会认几十个汉字和背几首唐诗.我们在家
基本没有交过孩子英语,除了简单的几个单词,比如食物和上厕所.
现在孩子在学校表现很不好,我每天接孩子都被留下跟老师谈话.孩子表现不好主要是
behavior的问题,比如上gym课总是到处跑不听话,玩gym里面emergency exit的门.老师
跟他说了很多次no,他都不听.(我儿子英语不好,但是知道No的意思).今天学校搞活动,
换了地方上课,我儿子就大哭.老师今天跟我说经过一段时间的观察,她觉得我儿子特别
不喜欢change,喜欢consistency和routine.
我一听这个我就马上想到儿子是不是有点autism,因... 阅读全帖 |
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t***h 发帖数: 2924 | 31 你对孩子太宠太宽容了.
你家女儿为什么在外面behave well, 是因为外面的人不会无原则宽容她,
她需要先尊重别人才能获得被尊重和被重视.所以她就通过behave well
来维持这个balance.
而在家里, 她对你mean,不好好做她该做的事情,你却依旧尊重她宽容她,
那她就不需要尊重你了.
建议你以后不要姑息她的错误, 把她当作别人家的孩子.如果behave不好,
你就告诉她什么地方做错了,让你不高兴,如果她不改正不道歉的话,
就给与一定得惩罚. 很快她就知道要用好的行为来换取你的爱了. |
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i********k 发帖数: 675 | 32 儿子有时候会模仿preschool老师的口吻说,mom, behave, don't cry when you miss
me. 问他有没有人不听话, 他说班上的K (一个小黑孩),does not behave, 不听老师
话,老被Maria time out, 还说其他同学都behave。 3、4岁的孩子开始能分清该不该
听从指令了吧。有的小孩可能比较多动点,老师就需要多花点时间看管。估计老师针对
不听指令的孩子使用最多的一招就是time out了。 |
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r***l 发帖数: 9084 | 33 8岁娃play date, 同学妈妈说babysitter会来接送,我们还挺纳闷。到了时间,准时车
来了,下来一位20多岁的小伙,不苟言笑,打了招呼把孩子放下就走了。到了pickup时
间,准时来,进门第一句话问"did he behave?" 孩子说想再多玩玩,立刻说"no, you
have 2 mins to go.". 孩子乖乖跟着走。
这是高级的baby sitter吧,不光看孩子,还要陪玩sports, 还要管behave. 怪不得小
孩behave很好,家长真是重视。 |
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d*****9 发帖数: 3459 | 34 if the government behaves like a slave owner, i'd call it slave owner
if it behaves like a union leader, i'd call it union leader.
unfortunately, the current government behaves more like a slave owner, thus
slaver owner government.
it is very difficult to compare governments in diff eras.
hence i would prefer compare governments of the same era.
size matters in this case as in many other areas. but it is not the
decisive factor here. take cuba for example, it is similar to taiwan and we
all kn... 阅读全帖 |
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y******o 发帖数: 4098 | 35 来自主题: loseweight版 - 早餐很重要 很behave的时候:
low carb pita + greek yogurt/farmers cheese
rice cake with greek yogurt
whole wheat bread with hard boiled eggs
一般behave的时候:
bagel with 1 tbsp cream cheese
Lox and cream cheese bagel
almond milk & cereal
whole wheat turkey ham sandwich
不behave的时候:
bagel with egg&cheese&bacon
泡菜包子、肉包子、素包子、玉米面馒头、花卷、煎饺、玉米、葱油饼
油渍麻花甜了吧唧的各种面包,蛋糕 |
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c******o 发帖数: 1184 | 36 Will China stay on course?
By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
Events in the Middle East and North Africa are of historic importance, but
the even bigger, long-term story is the rise of China. What path will it
choose at home and abroad in the years ahead?
For decades there has been debate at the highest levels of the Chinese
government about how much to modernize politically to ensure growth and
stave off revolution.
It’s notoriously difficult to analyze the inner workings off the Chinese
Communist Party. ... 阅读全帖 |
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d******2 发帖数: 107 | 37 Instead of being learners of the truth, they behave like they are the truth.
Instead of showing that they are saved, they behave like they are here to
save others.
Instead of praising the most high, they behave like they are the most high,
they speak as if the holy spirit is with them and therefore, speak as if
they are god.
It is such an irony that they say non-believers are arrogant. |
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a*****y 发帖数: 33185 | 38 1. The idea of zombies
Descartes held that non-human animals are automata: their behavior is
explicable wholly in terms of physical mechanisms. He explored the idea of a
machine which looked and behaved like a human being. Knowing only
seventeenth century technology, he thought two things would unmask such a
machine: it could not use language creatively rather than producing
stereotyped responses, and it could not produce appropriate non-verbal
behavior in arbitrarily various situations (Discour... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******r 发帖数: 39279 | 39 Cerebellar cortical inhibition and classical eyeblink conditioning.
Bao S, Chen L, Kim JJ, Thompson RF.
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2002 Feb 5;99(3):1592-7. Epub 2002 Jan 22.
Learning- and cerebellum-dependent neuronal activity in the lateral pontine
nucleus.
Bao S, Chen L, Thompson RF.
Behav Neurosci. 2000 Apr;114(2):254-61.
Impaired cerebellar synapse maturation in waggler, a mutant mouse with a dis
rupted neuronal calcium channel gamma subunit.
Chen L, Bao S, Qiao X, Thompson RF.
Proc Natl Acad... 阅读全帖 |
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q**i 发帖数: 174 | 40 assume that an economy with various cycles that cannot
be avoided. However, investors don't know when a cycle will
happen and how long it will lasts when it happens (a cycle
cannot last forever).
How would stock prices behave if the market is efficient?
How would stock prices behave if the investors have limited
life span?
How would stock prices behave if we do no thave a perfect
signal on if a cycle has taken place? |
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f**d 发帖数: 768 | 41 http://online.itp.ucsb.edu/online/neuro10/
有兴趣的同学可以观看其中视频cam链接,效果很清晰,
学习的同时也可以非常好地练习英语听力
KITP Program: Emerging Techniques in Neuroscience (Sep 20 - Nov 12,
2010) Coordinators: Adrienne Fairhall, David Kleinfeld, Fred Wolf
Speakers: Please see us about file upload for your slides.
会议内容涉及实验和计算神经科学的比较广泛的课题
Time
Speaker
Title
9/20, 10:15 a.m.
All
Greeting & Salutations from Adrienne, David & Fred[Podcast][Aud][Cam]
9/20, 10:30 a.m.
John Hopfield
Princeton, IAS
How Have Experiment and Theory Informe... 阅读全帖 |
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b********g 发帖数: 2156 | 42 来自主题: _BibleStudy版 - 提个问题吧 * daring: brave enough to do dangerous things
* dependable: a dependable person always behaves in a sensible way and does
what they say they will do
* determined: not willing to let anything prevent you from doing what you
have decided to do
* dishonest: behaving or prone to behave in an untrustworthy or fraudulent
way.
* disrespectful: the attitude or behavior of someone who does not respect
someone or something
* eager: a person wanting to do or have something very much
* easy-going: relaxed, ... 阅读全帖 |
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T**********1 发帖数: 2406 | 43 Economic activity is about human behavior. Without the basis of human
nature, you can have a successful
explaination on why human behave the way they behave, ie, Economic theory?
You are out of your mind! |
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p*********g 发帖数: 9527 | 44 amazing to see how old sauces behaved with dirty words. You guys need a soap
to wash your mouths. More amazingly, the monkey lady deemed these behave
as appropriate. What a joke. |
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g********r 发帖数: 8017 | 45 【 以下文字转载自 PhotoGear 讨论区 】
发信人: goldmember (蔬菜<<<菜鸟), 信区: PhotoGear
标 题: 有的香港人真的是 。。。 (一种动物)!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 26 13:09:13 2012, 美东)
有的香港人真的是 。。。 (一种动物)!
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昨天下班路上听BBC,有一段采访。是关于孔教授骂香港人的事情。采访的是一个香港
作家。不知道中文名,BBC主持人称他为“Chip Tsao”。这位作家不承认香港人和大陆
人是一种人。更令人气愤的是,当被问到2047年最终统一的时候,他竟然诅咒自己的祖
国不能活到2047年。注意,他说的不是大陆政府,说的是中国。
听完以后非常气愤。今天终于在网上找到这段节目。 自己用了一小时的时间把里面说
的话记录下来。有几处听不清楚的,绝大部分都很清楚。怀疑我夸张的可以看英文,或
者到BBC网站上听。最关键字句翻译如下:
主持人:2047年两地最终统一怎么办?你认为会发生什么?
Tsao:呵呵呵呵。。。。。。那有点太遥远了,是不是?现在中国经济发展很快,... 阅读全帖 |
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W*****2 发帖数: 1043 | 46 http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/452864.html
关于南京大屠杀死难30万同胞的说法,最初是来自倭寇:
来源: B4NT 于 2012-02-28 16:28:41[档案] [博客] 旧帖] [转至博客] [给我悄悄话]
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下面有一则电文,是远东军事法庭关于南京大屠杀的重要证据。
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密电文,首次提到南京大屠杀的发生和规模。电文如下:“Since return (to)
Shanghai (a) few days ago I investigated reported atrocities committed by
Japanese Army in Nanking and elsewhere. Verbal accounts (of) reliable eye-
witnesses and letters from individuals... 阅读全帖 |
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D*V 发帖数: 3096 | 47 jun 2nd generation is more well-behaving and guan 2nd is well-behaving,but
rich 2nd is really like a slut or bitch..lol like the NANJING rollover girl. |
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s********r 发帖数: 212 | 48 On January 17, 1938, Foreign Minister Koki Hirota in Tokyo relayed the
following message to his contacts in Washington, DC, a message that American
intelligence intercepted, deciphered, and later translated into English on
February 1, 1938:
“Since returning (to) Shanghai a few days ago I investigated reported
atrocities committed by Japanese army in Nanking and elsewhere. Verbal
accounts (of) reliable eye-witnesses and letters from individuals whose
credibility (is) beyond question afford convin... 阅读全帖 |
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