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m****a
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Who was Satan before his fall?
Satan is a spirit son of Heavenly Father born in the morning of the
premortal life. He chose evil from the beginning (see D&C 93:25) and gained
great power and personal influence. He is described in the scriptures as “
an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God” (D&C 76:25).
His eventual rebellion and fall were so tragic and complete that he lost all
hope for any degree of salvation, which is why the heavens wept over him (
see D&C 76:26).
教义与圣约 第九十三篇
24 真理就是對事物的現在、過去與未來的知識;
25 凡比這多或少的,就是屬於那邪惡者的靈,他從太初就是說謊者。
教义与圣约 第七十六篇
23 因為我們看見祂在神的右邊,也聽到有聲音作見證說,祂是父的獨生子──
24 諸世界現在和過去都是藉祂、經祂、由祂創造的,其上的居民也是神所生的兒女。
25 然後我們也看到並且作見證,有一位神的天使本來在神面前有權柄,卻因為反叛父
所愛且在父懷中的獨生子,而從神與子面前被趕下去,
26 他被稱為沉淪,因為諸天為他哭泣──他是路西弗,早晨之子。
27 我們看見,看,他墮落了!墮落了,甚至是早晨之子!
28 我們仍處在靈中時,主命令我們把這異象寫下來;因為我們看到撒但,那條古蛇,
即魔鬼,他反叛神,想奪取我們神及其基督的國度──
29 因此,他與神的聖徒作戰,將他們包圍起來。
http://lds.org/manual/aaronic-priesthood-manual-3/lesson-5-how-
m****a
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Lucifer. Literally the Shining One; also Lightbringer or Son of the Morning.
Lucifer is also known as Satan or the devil. The name Lucifer appears only
once in the Bible (Isa. 14:12, but cf. Luke 10:18). Apparently Lucifer is
the name of the devil before his rebellion and fall. Latter-day revelation
clarifies the fall of Lucifer and equates him with Satan (D&C 76:25–38; cf.
Rev. 12:1–17; 2 Ne. 9:8; D&C 29:36–38; Moses 4:1–4).
What caused Lucifer’s fall?
Satan was caught up in his own cause and guilty of false pride. He desired to “exalt [his] throne above the stars of God” and “ascend above the heights of the clouds” (Isaiah 14:13–14). He was motivated by selfishness and a desire for power and wanted to be like the Most High. When he was denied all of this because he sought it unrighteously, he knowingly rebelled and became the father of all lies.
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Traditionally, Lucifer (English pronunciation: /ˈluːsɪfə
r, ljuːsɪfər/) is a name that in English generally refers to
the devil before being cast from heaven, although this is not the original
meaning of the term. In Latin, from which the English word is derived,
Lucifer means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre). It was the name
given to the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, which heralds daylight.
For this meaning, English generally uses the names "Morning Star" or "Day
Star", and rarely "Lucifer".
Use of the name "Lucifer" for the devil stems from a particular
interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that does not speak of any
fallen angel but of the defeat of a particular Babylonian King, to whom it
gives a title that refers to what in English is called the Day Star or
Morning Star (in Latin, lucifer).[2] In 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere, the same
Latin word lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation
to the devil. It is only in post-New Testament times that the Latin word
Lucifer was used as a name for the devil, both in religious writing and in
fiction, especially when referring to him prior to his fall from Heaven.
聖經译本中的路西法
普遍使用的中文和合本聖經中的以賽亞書14:12-15這樣描述:
明亮之星,早晨之子啊,你何竟從天墜落?你這攻敗列國的何竟被砍倒在地上?你心裡
曾說:我要升到天上;我要高舉我的寶座在神眾星以上;我要坐在聚會的山上,在北方
的極處。我要升到高雲之上;我要與至上者同等。然而,你必墜落陰間,到坑中極深之
處。
路西法(Lucifer)在此處譯为「明亮之星」。
圣经并未提及路西法曾经是一位天使,也未提到他的地位。
「路西法等於魔鬼」的說法是因為上述文字受到錯誤解讀所導致。原文中的「明亮之星
」(Lucifer)指的即是晨星(金星),用來影射巴比伦的君王尼布甲尼撒。由於舊約
聖經的作者群尚未有所謂的「邪惡天使」的概念,因此這邊的「明亮之星」並非指特定
某一位的天使。
以赛亚在预言里吩咐以色列人讥讽巴比伦王时,提到“明亮之星”。这节经文主要是针
对巴比伦王朝的。然后,经文说:“你必被摔到死人之地”。可见“明亮之星”是对人
的称呼,跟灵体生物无关。因为死人之地是埋葬人的地方,不是埋葬魔鬼撒但的。此外
,有些人看见“明亮之星”被摔之后,就问:“这就是那个震动大地,摇撼万国的人吗
?”显然,“明亮之星”所指的是人,而不是灵体。
圣经用显赫的称呼来指巴比伦王,因为巴比伦王是在国家陷落以后,才被讥讽为“明亮
之星”的。巴比伦的统治者妄自尊大,把自己抬高置于邻国之上。巴比伦十分嚣张放肆
,甚至夸口:“我要升到天上去,高举我的宝座,凌驾上帝手下的星。我要坐在北方的
极处,坐在盛会之山上。我要……使自己与至高者同等。”
圣经把大卫王系的君王比作星。从大卫开始,这些“星”在锡安山施行统治。所罗门在
耶路撒冷建造圣殿后,锡安这个名称就用来代表整个耶路撒冷城。律法之约规定,所有
以色列的男子必须每年上锡安三次。所以,锡安成了“盛会之山”。尼布甲尼撒决心征
服犹太的君王,把他们从锡安山赶走,他的行动摆明他要凌驾上帝手下的“星”。他打
败了以色列王,却没有把功劳归给耶和华,反之,把自己置于耶和华的位置上。因此,
巴比伦陷落后,圣经就把巴比伦王讽刺为“明亮之星”。
巴比伦统治者骄傲自大,反映了“现行制度的神”魔鬼撒但的态度。魔鬼同样渴求权力
,妄图凌驾耶和华上帝之上。不过,“明亮之星”却不是圣经对魔鬼的称呼。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer
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Satan hates righteousness. He and his angels, who have all lost their own
salvation, want to make every person as miserable as they are (see 2 Nephi 2
purity, honesty, humility, courage, and hope. Instead, Satan wants us to
feel only hate, rage, despair, jealousy, and pride. He wants us to lose our
salvation. His goal is to destroy our opportunities to become like Heavenly
Father.
To better understand how Lucifer fell, read Revelation 12:7–9 and
Revelation 12:4. Satan influenced a third part of our spirit
brothers and sisters to follow him and reject our Father in Heaven.
尼腓二书2:17,18,27
17而我,李海,根據我所讀到的事情,料定必有一位神的天使,按照所記載的,已從天
上墜落了;因此他變成了魔鬼,因為他圖謀神視為邪惡的事物。
18 因為他已從天上墜落,變得永遠悲慘,他就力圖使全人類同遭悲慘。因此,他,
即那條古蛇,也就是魔鬼,就是萬謊之父,對夏娃說:吃禁果吧,你們不會死,卻會像
神一樣知道善惡。
27 因此,世人在肉身中是自由的;凡對人類有益的事物都賜給他們。他們可以藉著全
人類的偉大中保,自行選擇自由和永生,或順著魔鬼的束縛和力量,選擇束縛和死亡;
因為魔鬼力圖使所有的人都像他一樣悲慘。
启示录12:3-4 7-9
3 天上又现出异象来。有一条大红龙,七头十角,七头上戴着七个冠冕。
4它的尾巴拖拉着天上星辰的三分之一,摔在地上。龙就站在那将要生产的妇人面前,等她生产之后,要吞吃她的孩子。
7在天上就有了争战。米迦勒同他的使者与龙争战。龙也同它的使者去争战。
8并没有得胜,天上再没有它们的地方。
9大龙就是那古蛇,名叫魔鬼,又叫撒但,是迷惑普天下的。它被摔在地上,它的使者
也一同被摔下去。
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Satan’s Methods
Read 2 Nephi 28:15–16, 20–22, identifying ways Satan tries to deceive. As
we identify these ways, here are how Satan applies those methods in our
times. Following are some examples:
1. Pride in our hearts (arrogance, self-centeredness, bragging).
2. False doctrines (false teachers, false religions).
3. Whoredoms (immorality, immodesty, lust, passions).
4. Reviling that which is good (mockery of God, religion, chastity, or
marriage).
5. Anger at good (persecution of the righteous).
6. Carnal or worldly security (excessive desire for money or other worldly
possessions).
7. Flattery (insincere praise).
8. Deception and lies (claiming there is no God, devil, sin, or hell).
尼腓二书2:20-21
20 因為看啊,到那天,魔鬼必在人類兒女心中肆虐,並煽動他們惱怒美好的事物。
21 他會安撫其他人,哄他們安於肉慾的安全感,以致他們要說:錫安一切好;是的,
錫安昌盛了,一切好──魔鬼就這樣欺騙他們的靈魂,小心翼翼地領他們下地獄。
m****a
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We Can Resist Satan’s Temptations
the following scriptures and quotations that point out how to protect
ourselves from Satan’s power and that we cannot be forced to yield to the
enticings of Satan.
1. Moroni 7:16–17
16 因為看啊,基督的靈已賜給每一個人,使他們能分辨善惡,所以,我告訴你們判斷
的方法;每一樣邀人為善並勸人信基督的事物,都是藉基督的大能和恩賜差來的,所以
你們可以完全知道那是屬於神的。
17 但是,任何勸人作惡 、不信基督、否認祂、不服事神的事物,你們就可以完全知道
那是屬於魔鬼的,因為魔鬼就是這樣做事 的,他不勸任何人為善,不,不勸任何人;
他的使者這樣,臣服於他的人也是這樣。
2. 1 Corinthians 10:13
你们所遇见的试探,无非是人所能受的。神是信实的,必不叫你们受试探过于所能受的
。在受试探的时候,总要给你们开一条出路,叫你们能忍受得住。
3. Helaman 14:30
13 如果你們相信祂的名,就會悔改你們所有的罪,這樣你們就得以靠祂的功勞獲得罪
的赦免。
4. 3 Nephi 18:15
15 我實實在在告訴你們,你們必須隨時警醒,常常禱告,以免為魔鬼所惑,被誘騙
成了他的俘虜。
5. James 4:7
7故此你们要顺服神,务要抵挡魔鬼,魔鬼就必离开你们逃跑了。
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The Prophet Joseph Smith gave this commentary on the power of Satan: “All
beings who have bodies have power over those who have not. The devil has no
power over us only as we permit him. The moment we revolt at anything which
comes from God, the devil takes power” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph
Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1938],
p. 181).
Elder Spencer W. Kimball explained how Heavenly Father can help us overcome
Satan:
“He who has greater strength than Lucifer, He who is our fortress and our
strength, can sustain us in times of great temptation. While the Lord will
never forcibly take anyone out of sin or out of the arms of the tempters, he
exerts his Spirit to induce the sinner to do it with divine assistance. And
the man who yields to the sweet influence and pleadings of the Spirit and
does all in his power to stay in a repentant attitude is guaranteed
protection, power, freedom and joy” (The Miracle of Forgiveness [Salt Lake
City: Bookcraft, 1969], p. 176).
Satan is real and that we must understand his tactics to avoid being lead
astray by him. He is no comic figure as some portray him, but is the great
anti-Christ. Satan is a cunning adversary. We can be stronger than he is if
we are wise and use the spiritual strength that comes from following Christ,
listening to the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
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小麦,Lucifer这个问题,摩门教问题更大了,摩门经是不是号称抄了公元前600年的以
赛亚书么?怎么会跑出来一个后来拉丁文、英语里的Lucifer这个词来了?

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【在 m****a 的大作中提到】
: Who was Satan before his fall?
: Satan is a spirit son of Heavenly Father born in the morning of the
: premortal life. He chose evil from the beginning (see D&C 93:25) and gained
: great power and personal influence. He is described in the scriptures as “
: an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God” (D&C 76:25).
: His eventual rebellion and fall were so tragic and complete that he lost all
: hope for any degree of salvation, which is why the heavens wept over him (
: see D&C 76:26).
: 教义与圣约 第九十三篇
: 24 真理就是對事物的現在、過去與未來的知識;

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