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TrustInJesus版 - 真正的恩典--true Grace(zz) (转载)
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w*****r
发帖数: 7106
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【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: myelsa (夜光杯), 信区: Belief
标 题: 真正的恩典--true Grace(zz)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 21 23:37:43 2011, 美东)
刚才看了一个基督徒网站,非常同意里面的一些观点。
这是根据Quakers这个教派创始人George Fox的一些看法而创建的,我个人觉得这一章
关于仁慈--true grace讲的很有道理:
http://www.hallvworthington.com/grace.html
We all agree Jesus forgives us for our past sins, but did Jesus come so that
we can continue to sin without guilt, or did he come to destroy our sin?
Did Jesus come to set the captives free from guilt, or did he come to set
us free from the bondage of sin? Did Jesus come so that we can continue to
sin without guilt, or did he come to lead us to repentance and remission of
sin? If knowing the truth will set you free, from what are we supposed to be
set free - guilt or sin?
Doesn't a removal of guilt make sin easier for us all, allowing us to sin
more without fear; so Jesus came so we can sin more, so Jesus came to
promote sin? Doesn't this makes Jesus evil? Could the devil make sin any
easier than the guilt-free ease of sin this false doctrine attributes to
Jesus? This is a major deception. Jesus said, I tell you the truth, everyone
who sins is a slave to sin. John 8:34. If we are a slave to sin, he can't
be our Lord. You are the slaves of him whom you obey, whether that be to sin
, which leads to death, or to obedience which leads to righteousness. Rom 6:
16,19. What about repentance? His message was: unless you repent, you too
will all perish. Luke 13:3. Certainly our sins are forgiven us while we seek
to become free of sin, but we had better be sure we are repenting to work
out our salvation that leads to purification and the rest, otherwise we will
fall short of the mark.
Let us therefore be zealous and exert ourselves and strive diligently to
enter that rest, that no one may fall or perish by the same kind of unbelief
and disobedience [that the Jews in the wilderness showed]. Heb 4:11. This
is a serious warning to all who call themselves Christians: to avoid losing
your soul and being banned from heaven, as the Jews were killed in the
desert and banned from entering the promise land because of unbelief in God'
s promises, you must zealously labor in faith to attain the promised rest of
the spiritual Sabbath, which is union with God and entrance into the
Kingdom of Heaven, within you and around you. We sit down in Christ to enter
the rest, to enter the rest from fighting our enemies, like Israel entered
the rest from fighting and purging their land of the surrounding heathen
peoples; only our enemies are spiritual: lust, rage, pride, selfishness,
envy, greed, covetousness, jealousy, lying, cheating, stealing, sexual
immorality, profane language, and evil thoughts, etc. Salvation is to be
delivered and released from sin and be protected from evil, sanctified
from our enemies of sin. Let it not be said of you: This is the rest by
which you may cause the weary to rest, and this is the refreshing; yet they
would not hear. Isa 28:12.
For God has not called us to uncleanness, but to holiness. 1 Thes 4:7
m****a
发帖数: 9485
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谢谢转载我的帖子。
请注意这个帖子不是摩门教的。所以置顶的提示是有误的。
我发的帖子怎么可能都是摩门教的呢?很多是我自己学习的体会。
我赞扬好的见解和评论,不论是谁的。
要想看摩门教的内容,可以上我们教会的网站,或者我创办的摩门教俱乐部。
本人个人见解不代表教会正式立场。
http://www.mormon.org/plan-of-happiness
http://www.mitbbs.com/club_bbsdoc/LDS_Mormon.html
w*****r
发帖数: 7106
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你要相信 D 大, 他是很尊重别人的, 也是很尊重别人的宗教信仰的.

【在 m****a 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢转载我的帖子。
: 请注意这个帖子不是摩门教的。所以置顶的提示是有误的。
: 我发的帖子怎么可能都是摩门教的呢?很多是我自己学习的体会。
: 我赞扬好的见解和评论,不论是谁的。
: 要想看摩门教的内容,可以上我们教会的网站,或者我创办的摩门教俱乐部。
: 本人个人见解不代表教会正式立场。
: http://www.mormon.org/plan-of-happiness
: http://www.mitbbs.com/club_bbsdoc/LDS_Mormon.html

l*****a
发帖数: 38403
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哦?

【在 w*****r 的大作中提到】
: 你要相信 D 大, 他是很尊重别人的, 也是很尊重别人的宗教信仰的.
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