l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 1 People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism,
Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful
and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred
Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda,
Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .
Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that
preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their
Christian audiences, but one only | l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 2 "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting
for the work of the Lord."
把Jew改成召会或者***************看看 | s******g
发帖数: 775 | 3 宗教人物掌权就是这个样子, 还有小布什, 陈水扁
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of
: the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting
: for the work of the Lord."
: 把Jew改成召会或者***************看看
| l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 4 陈水变应该是后来受洗的罢，关大牢之前
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 宗教人物掌权就是这个样子, 还有小布什, 陈水扁
| s******g
发帖数: 775 | 5 还真的是这样, 太可爱了
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 陈水变应该是后来受洗的罢，关大牢之前
| l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 6 可能需要祷告的力量吧
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 还真的是这样, 太可爱了
| s******g
发帖数: 775 | 7 "因信称义" 嘛, 呵呵呵
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 可能需要祷告的力量吧
| R***n
发帖数: 733 | 8 A response to Jim Walker's "Hitler's Christianity"
http://www.bedfordgaol.com/walkersite.html
C. Illogical arguments
A third element is a profound illogic, that stresses the most tenuous
similarities between Hitler's thought and Christian teaching while ignoring
the most blatant differences. It would take a book to deal with all of the
examples of this in Mr. Walker's site. I would like to mention some examples
, however - not for refutation, though some refutation will be presented,
but to illu
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism,
: Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful
: and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred
: Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda,
: Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .
: Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that
: preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their
: Christian audiences, but one only
| w*****r
发帖数: 7106 | 9 西特勒当然是JDT. 很多3K党都是JDT, 所以罗素才疑问上帝: "你如果有全智和全能，
并且有千百万年的时间来使你的世界臻于完善，你难道创造不出比三Ｋ党和法西斯更美
好的东西么？"
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism,
: Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful
: and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred
: Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda,
: Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .
: Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that
: preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their
: Christian audiences, but one only
| i*****t
发帖数: 24265 | 10 就算希特勒是基督徒，其行为也不代表基督教，只代表其个人的行为。
看看那些古代信佛信道的皇帝，不也是一样杀人无数么？也是不能代表信佛信道的就都
是喜欢杀人的。
【在 w*****r 的大作中提到】
: 西特勒当然是JDT. 很多3K党都是JDT, 所以罗素才疑问上帝: "你如果有全智和全能，
: 并且有千百万年的时间来使你的世界臻于完善，你难道创造不出比三Ｋ党和法西斯更美
: 好的东西么？"
| | | E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 11 一句話
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】
: 就算希特勒是基督徒，其行为也不代表基督教，只代表其个人的行为。
: 看看那些古代信佛信道的皇帝，不也是一样杀人无数么？也是不能代表信佛信道的就都
: 是喜欢杀人的。
| i*****t
发帖数: 24265 | 12 一句话，不是所有基督徒都听神的话，不是所有公民都遵纪守法。
【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】
: 一句話
| B********e
发帖数: 19317 | | w****r
发帖数: 17566 | 14 呼唤长文的ABSTRACT
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism,
: Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful
: and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred
: Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda,
: Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .
: Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that
: preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their
: Christian audiences, but one only
| w*****r
发帖数: 7106 | 15 中国历史上真正称得上佛教徒,道教徒的帝王没几个. 印度的佛教徒帝王倒是多些.你们JDT就算不信
科学,多学点历史还是可以的吧.
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】
: 就算希特勒是基督徒，其行为也不代表基督教，只代表其个人的行为。
: 看看那些古代信佛信道的皇帝，不也是一样杀人无数么？也是不能代表信佛信道的就都
: 是喜欢杀人的。
| i*****t
发帖数: 24265 | 16 真正的教徒？没有几个？那么到底是几个？没有皇帝不杀人的，有几个皇帝，那也是有
啊。
们JDT就算不信
【在 w*****r 的大作中提到】
: 中国历史上真正称得上佛教徒,道教徒的帝王没几个. 印度的佛教徒帝王倒是多些.你们JDT就算不信
: 科学,多学点历史还是可以的吧.
| s******g
发帖数: 775 | 17 请问上文哪里提到说希特勒和耶稣的比较？
顺便解释一下：
~ Jesus never attained or tried to attain political power.
还有这个
These are simple facts. Two other differences are matters of faith:
~ Hitler died and remains dead, while Jesus died and rose again.
~ Hitler was only a man, and a sinful one, while Jesus is the divine and
sinless Son of God.
再多我都不好意思说了，全是没逻辑的漏洞~
ignoring
the
examples
presented,
also
【在 R***n 的大作中提到】
: A response to Jim Walker's "Hitler's Christianity"
: http://www.bedfordgaol.com/walkersite.html
: C. Illogical arguments
: A third element is a profound illogic, that stresses the most tenuous
: similarities between Hitler's thought and Christian teaching while ignoring
: the most blatant differences. It would take a book to deal with all of the
: examples of this in Mr. Walker's site. I would like to mention some examples
: , however - not for refutation, though some refutation will be presented,
: but to illu
| l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 18 其实我比较想看到你自己的想法， 然后你这篇文章回的有点文不对题， 我那篇文章好
象并没有把希
特勒和耶稣比较吧？ 差了一下也没查出这位作者是什么人，Joe Keysor？ 好象只写了
一本书，
能不能介绍一下这个作者？
ignoring
the
examples
presented,
also
【在 R***n 的大作中提到】
: A response to Jim Walker's "Hitler's Christianity"
: http://www.bedfordgaol.com/walkersite.html
: C. Illogical arguments
: A third element is a profound illogic, that stresses the most tenuous
: similarities between Hitler's thought and Christian teaching while ignoring
: the most blatant differences. It would take a book to deal with all of the
: examples of this in Mr. Walker's site. I would like to mention some examples
: , however - not for refutation, though some refutation will be presented,
: but to illu
| l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 19 呵呵， 自由意识么， 自由发展
【在 w*****r 的大作中提到】
: 西特勒当然是JDT. 很多3K党都是JDT, 所以罗素才疑问上帝: "你如果有全智和全能，
: 并且有千百万年的时间来使你的世界臻于完善，你难道创造不出比三Ｋ党和法西斯更美
: 好的东西么？"
| R***n
发帖数: 733 | 20 ~ Jesus never attained or tried to attain political power. Hitler did.
~ Jesus practiced non-violence. He told his followers not to fight for him
and passively allowed himself to be killed. Hitler did not advocate or
practice non-violence.
~ Jesus is deeply loved, respected, and believed in by countless millions of
people throughout the world. Hitler is universally regarded with disgust by
all decent people.
~ Jesus' teachings spread throughout the world and have lasted nearly two
thousand years
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 其实我比较想看到你自己的想法， 然后你这篇文章回的有点文不对题， 我那篇文章好
: 象并没有把希
: 特勒和耶稣比较吧？ 差了一下也没查出这位作者是什么人，Joe Keysor？ 好象只写了
: 一本书，
: 能不能介绍一下这个作者？
:
: ignoring
: the
: examples
: presented,
| | | l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 21 lol, um, enough's enough
him
millions of
by
two
time
【在 R***n 的大作中提到】
: ~ Jesus never attained or tried to attain political power. Hitler did.
: ~ Jesus practiced non-violence. He told his followers not to fight for him
: and passively allowed himself to be killed. Hitler did not advocate or
: practice non-violence.
: ~ Jesus is deeply loved, respected, and believed in by countless millions of
: people throughout the world. Hitler is universally regarded with disgust by
: all decent people.
: ~ Jesus' teachings spread throughout the world and have lasted nearly two
: thousand years
| w*****r
发帖数: 7106 | 22 你说的有,那有几个,哪几个你告诉我呀?
中国是以儒家治国,不是佛或者道,儒家思想跟佛道差远了去了.
各代君王虽然不禁止(甚至可能鼓励宗教),但一直是避免让宗教参政的.所以一般的皇帝也不
明显的扶佛抑道或反之.
学点历史. 别光拿圣经看世界, 虽然佛教道教在中国流行, 即使有皇帝偶尔吃吃斋,推行的也
是孔孟之道,就算他们个人离正式被佛教承认为俗家弟子也都还远得很哪.佛教和道教徒的入
门坎子其实比JDT要高. 别想当然的就把西方那套教徒君王的模式套上来.就跟我山寨王有时
候也说说"Oh, my god",也上过教堂,也跟着祈祷过, 你该不会认为我已经是JDT了吧.
你要举不出例子,我帮你举一个, 三国时的张鲁可以算半个道教徒君王, 说他半个是因
为他其实还算不得真正的君王.不过这斯也没有四处征战,但也不是仁君,治国也无方,
自己不久就给灭了.
还有个順治传说中信佛教,但他是个傀儡皇帝,从没真正掌过权,"决志"以后干脆不当皇帝了.要不然我们今天还真可能看看在中国佛教治国是个啥样子.
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】
: 真正的教徒？没有几个？那么到底是几个？没有皇帝不杀人的，有几个皇帝，那也是有
: 啊。
:
: 们JDT就算不信
| i*****t
发帖数: 24265 | 23 我是引用，因此打上问号,至于几个？那应该问我引用的那位了。
【在 w*****r 的大作中提到】
: 你说的有,那有几个,哪几个你告诉我呀?
: 中国是以儒家治国,不是佛或者道,儒家思想跟佛道差远了去了.
: 各代君王虽然不禁止(甚至可能鼓励宗教),但一直是避免让宗教参政的.所以一般的皇帝也不
: 明显的扶佛抑道或反之.
: 学点历史. 别光拿圣经看世界, 虽然佛教道教在中国流行, 即使有皇帝偶尔吃吃斋,推行的也
: 是孔孟之道,就算他们个人离正式被佛教承认为俗家弟子也都还远得很哪.佛教和道教徒的入
: 门坎子其实比JDT要高. 别想当然的就把西方那套教徒君王的模式套上来.就跟我山寨王有时
: 候也说说"Oh, my god",也上过教堂,也跟着祈祷过, 你该不会认为我已经是JDT了吧.
: 你要举不出例子,我帮你举一个, 三国时的张鲁可以算半个道教徒君王, 说他半个是因
: 为他其实还算不得真正的君王.不过这斯也没有四处征战,但也不是仁君,治国也无方,
| l*****y
发帖数: 9433 | 24 哦
【在 i*****t 的大作中提到】
: 我是引用，因此打上问号,至于几个？那应该问我引用的那位了。
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