i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 1 今天才知道跑马拉松原来有两堵墙。
Coolsaet says the famous “wall” is the most difficult thing to overcome as
a marathoner.
But there are actually two walls a runner can hit, only one of which has
affected him.
“There’s a wall where you run out of fuel . . . and I’ve never
experienced that in a marathon,” he says.
“The other wall . . . would be just the pounding and your legs get really
tired. But that wall is not as bad — you can run through it and just tough
up.”
Happily for Coolsaet, this wall has been coming later and later in his races.
“It keeps getting pushed back a little bit and one day I hope it gets
pushed back to 42K.”
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 2 我觉得我去年把两堵墙都撞了。 :-(
先是30K是腿没劲了,然后是后来fuel烧光了连走路都走不动了。
希望今年好好carb loading再多带点儿GELs,保证不run out of fuel。另外一堵墙到
时候争取把它tough过去。 |
R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 3 很牛啊, 北美排第三? 在ryan hall和Meb之后?
很难相信伦敦奥运会是他第5个马拉松!!
俺估计也再跑一个马就不跑了, 转练5k/10k...
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tough
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : 今天才知道跑马拉松原来有两堵墙。 : Coolsaet says the famous “wall” is the most difficult thing to overcome as : a marathoner. : But there are actually two walls a runner can hit, only one of which has : affected him. : “There’s a wall where you run out of fuel . . . and I’ve never : experienced that in a marathon,” he says. : “The other wall . . . would be just the pounding and your legs get really : tired. But that wall is not as bad — you can run through it and just tough : up.”
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p********r 发帖数: 3799 | 4 第二堵墙经常撞,这种情况发生,我都是加快摆臂的速度,这样可以带动腿 |
C******u 发帖数: 900 | 5 我也听说强有力的摆臂是好的跑步姿势的一部分。昨天试了一下,加强摆臂动作可以减
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j***y 发帖数: 5098 | 6 其实就是多吃呗,
我打算随身带8个gu
as
tough
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : 今天才知道跑马拉松原来有两堵墙。 : Coolsaet says the famous “wall” is the most difficult thing to overcome as : a marathoner. : But there are actually two walls a runner can hit, only one of which has : affected him. : “There’s a wall where you run out of fuel . . . and I’ve never : experienced that in a marathon,” he says. : “The other wall . . . would be just the pounding and your legs get really : tired. But that wall is not as bad — you can run through it and just tough : up.”
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 7 我有个fuel belt,上面能系10个, 不过上次好像就吃了4个,
太热了,不想吃东西...
【在 j***y 的大作中提到】 : 其实就是多吃呗, : 我打算随身带8个gu : : as : tough
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 8 i hit the 2nd wall for my last two 17 milers. actually the one on last
Sunday was even worse. i think it is because the rain earlier made the trail
bit between mile 9 and mile 11 not in a runnable conditions. it was even
more demanding to walk under such conditions compared to when it was dry.
after mile 14 my legs were so tired and my right arm went numb... i cannot
concentrate. the experience was indeed very devastating, but i am still glad
that i did that run as it was the right thing to do.
my question is will every long be like this? or i am just not ready for long
run?
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得我去年把两堵墙都撞了。 :-( : 先是30K是腿没劲了,然后是后来fuel烧光了连走路都走不动了。 : 希望今年好好carb loading再多带点儿GELs,保证不run out of fuel。另外一堵墙到 : 时候争取把它tough过去。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 9 you are doing great, your body is adapting, you should feel
much better on your next one, if not, rest for a week(no long run)..
trail
glad
long
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : i hit the 2nd wall for my last two 17 milers. actually the one on last : Sunday was even worse. i think it is because the rain earlier made the trail : bit between mile 9 and mile 11 not in a runnable conditions. it was even : more demanding to walk under such conditions compared to when it was dry. : after mile 14 my legs were so tired and my right arm went numb... i cannot : concentrate. the experience was indeed very devastating, but i am still glad : that i did that run as it was the right thing to do. : my question is will every long be like this? or i am just not ready for long : run?
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 10 how come it gets worse for the second time? for 13 milers and 15 milers it
always gets better for the second time.
i really want to build up my long run to 23 mile for at least once. as i am
not sure whether i can make it to 26 miles if i only run 20 milers
previously.
is it still too early for me to run a marathon? and after this one, i
probably will never run a road race any more unless it is big 4 or part of
tri. i will convert to trail running, so much fun!
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : you are doing great, your body is adapting, you should feel : much better on your next one, if not, rest for a week(no long run).. : : trail : glad : long
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 11 big 4? I thought it's big 5.
am
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【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : how come it gets worse for the second time? for 13 milers and 15 milers it : always gets better for the second time. : i really want to build up my long run to 23 mile for at least once. as i am : not sure whether i can make it to 26 miles if i only run 20 milers : previously. : is it still too early for me to run a marathon? and after this one, i : probably will never run a road race any more unless it is big 4 or part of : tri. i will convert to trail running, so much fun!
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 12 London BerlinBoston and NYC. what's the fifth one?
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : big 4? I thought it's big 5. : : am : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 13 Honestly you are a little rushing for a full marathon,
FM is totally different with a half marathon, although
they all called 'marathon'. normally it would take at least
6 months after a HM for preparing a full marathon.
18/20mi is totally differenct with the 13/15mi mid long run,
you need to take it real slowly, walk break is fine.
If you are tired this week, rest for a week then, try
18mi next week. 20mi long is good enough, dont try any
farther, at least for your first training cycle. you
can get injury. It is more important to stand on the start line
healthy.
And yes, trail run is more fun than road running, at
least for some ppl.
am
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : how come it gets worse for the second time? for 13 milers and 15 milers it : always gets better for the second time. : i really want to build up my long run to 23 mile for at least once. as i am : not sure whether i can make it to 26 miles if i only run 20 milers : previously. : is it still too early for me to run a marathon? and after this one, i : probably will never run a road race any more unless it is big 4 or part of : tri. i will convert to trail running, so much fun!
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 14 Chicago
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【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : London BerlinBoston and NYC. what's the fifth one?
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 15 chicago, I got two already :)
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : London BerlinBoston and NYC. what's the fifth one?
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 16 in that case shall i change this one to a half? there is a trail race in
November i want to run.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : Honestly you are a little rushing for a full marathon, : FM is totally different with a half marathon, although : they all called 'marathon'. normally it would take at least : 6 months after a HM for preparing a full marathon. : 18/20mi is totally differenct with the 13/15mi mid long run, : you need to take it real slowly, walk break is fine. : If you are tired this week, rest for a week then, try : 18mi next week. 20mi long is good enough, dont try any : farther, at least for your first training cycle. you : can get injury. It is more important to stand on the start line
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 17 that's an option, you can decide later after you finish your 20mi long run,
see how you feel.
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : in that case shall i change this one to a half? there is a trail race in : November i want to run.
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 18 thanks. will do it and report back.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : that's an option, you can decide later after you finish your 20mi long run, : see how you feel.
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p*5 发帖数: 16204 | 19 原来这就是传说中的撞墙
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tough
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : 今天才知道跑马拉松原来有两堵墙。 : Coolsaet says the famous “wall” is the most difficult thing to overcome as : a marathoner. : But there are actually two walls a runner can hit, only one of which has : affected him. : “There’s a wall where you run out of fuel . . . and I’ve never : experienced that in a marathon,” he says. : “The other wall . . . would be just the pounding and your legs get really : tired. But that wall is not as bad — you can run through it and just tough : up.”
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 20 还好游泳没有撞墙一说,不然我肯定撞墙后淹死。
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【在 p*5 的大作中提到】 : 原来这就是传说中的撞墙 : : as : tough
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 21 其实你下个long run说不定就会feel much better...
我记得我当初也是第一次跑16迈感觉超级痛苦, 然后再跑第一次18迈反而
感觉好多了, 再到20+迈就都没啥感觉了...
long run刚开始一定要慢,先慢慢晃10迈再说...
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : thanks. will do it and report back.
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j***y 发帖数: 5098 | 22 我貌似也是,
不过撞墙吧,也不是坏事,
撞着撞着就习惯了。。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 其实你下个long run说不定就会feel much better... : 我记得我当初也是第一次跑16迈感觉超级痛苦, 然后再跑第一次18迈反而 : 感觉好多了, 再到20+迈就都没啥感觉了... : long run刚开始一定要慢,先慢慢晃10迈再说...
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p*5 发帖数: 16204 | 24 我也好奇游泳游长了会如何
但是那些横渡的,没听说有明显的撞墙感。
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : 还好游泳没有撞墙一说,不然我肯定撞墙后淹死。 : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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j***y 发帖数: 5098 | 25 同好奇,
要不你试试?
【在 p*5 的大作中提到】 : 我也好奇游泳游长了会如何 : 但是那些横渡的,没听说有明显的撞墙感。
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p********r 发帖数: 3799 | 26 这些横渡的,中间也会停下来,一边踩水一边吃东西。
只要endurance sports, 都会有撞墙的可能。
【在 p*5 的大作中提到】 : 我也好奇游泳游长了会如何 : 但是那些横渡的,没听说有明显的撞墙感。
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p*5 发帖数: 16204 | 27 现在最长的还没有游过三迈以上。。。。
这个要到公开水域,池子里不停转身一个小时就抽筋了。
【在 j***y 的大作中提到】 : 同好奇, : 要不你试试?
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p*5 发帖数: 16204 | 28 补充能量肯定是需要的。
我是说没听说有那种步子都迈不动的类似感觉。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】 : 这些横渡的,中间也会停下来,一边踩水一边吃东西。 : 只要endurance sports, 都会有撞墙的可能。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 29 长距离游泳一般都是有补给船跟着的, 游不动了可不像跑步迈不动步子就完了,
直接就淹死了...
水里消耗能量更多,毕竟人在水里不游泳就要损失热量, 要不停地吃东西才行的...
【在 p*5 的大作中提到】 : 补充能量肯定是需要的。 : 我是说没听说有那种步子都迈不动的类似感觉。
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 30 变叔,ws100 bib number出来了,看到你了。
加油呀!菩萨保佑,一定要顺利跑下来。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 其实你下个long run说不定就会feel much better... : 我记得我当初也是第一次跑16迈感觉超级痛苦, 然后再跑第一次18迈反而 : 感觉好多了, 再到20+迈就都没啥感觉了... : long run刚开始一定要慢,先慢慢晃10迈再说...
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 31 哦? 哪里看到的? 我慢慢跑,如果没太大的事故的话应该问题不大吧...
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : 变叔,ws100 bib number出来了,看到你了。 : 加油呀!菩萨保佑,一定要顺利跑下来。
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p********r 发帖数: 3799 | 32 你打算跑多久完成?
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 哦? 哪里看到的? 我慢慢跑,如果没太大的事故的话应该问题不大吧...
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 33 30小时关门之前吧, 反正24小时没戏, 24-30小时之间都是一样的
一个铜的皮带扣...
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】 : 你打算跑多久完成?
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p********r 发帖数: 3799 | 34 中间能睡觉吗?
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 30小时关门之前吧, 反正24小时没戏, 24-30小时之间都是一样的 : 一个铜的皮带扣...
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 35 http://www.ws100.com/entrantlist.php
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 哦? 哪里看到的? 我慢慢跑,如果没太大的事故的话应该问题不大吧...
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 36 .......
倒下估计就不想起来了...
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】 : 中间能睡觉吗?
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 37 看到了, thanks!
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : http://www.ws100.com/entrantlist.php
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o********n 发帖数: 839 | 38 超长啊!加油,好运气!
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 看到了, thanks!
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 39 谢老铁!
突然意识到俺的号码很奇特, 哪个能猜出来啥意思的发个双黄 :)
【在 o********n 的大作中提到】 : 超长啊!加油,好运气!
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 40 Your anniversary!
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【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 谢老铁! : 突然意识到俺的号码很奇特, 哪个能猜出来啥意思的发个双黄 :)
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 41 不是,往俗的猜...
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】 : Your anniversary! : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 42 你生日,或者你领导生日。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 不是,往俗的猜...
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 43 .......
往低俗的猜
btw: 是213号
【在 p********y 的大作中提到】 : 你生日,或者你领导生日。
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j***y 发帖数: 5098 | 44 #¥#%¥%##……%#……@%#
真是的写照?
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : ....... : 往低俗的猜 : btw: 是213号
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p********y 发帖数: 5141 | 45 这个太狠了。。。
赶上他们接力的队名了。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : ....... : 往低俗的猜 : btw: 是213号
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o********n 发帖数: 839 | 46 我这么高尚的人怎么能猜俗的呢。
猜不出。但看到你是武汉伢(阿)。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : ....... : 往低俗的猜 : btw: 是213号
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j***y 发帖数: 5098 | 47 看到3个china,
另外俩都香港的,
变变v5
【在 o********n 的大作中提到】 : 我这么高尚的人怎么能猜俗的呢。 : 猜不出。但看到你是武汉伢(阿)。
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o********n 发帖数: 839 | 48 我一会儿去游泳,先把脑子调到低级趣味(手指挖鼻孔),
再边游边想213..........
【在 o********n 的大作中提到】 : 我这么高尚的人怎么能猜俗的呢。 : 猜不出。但看到你是武汉伢(阿)。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 49 哈哈, 这个是想不出来的....
狗都狗不出来 :)
【在 o********n 的大作中提到】 : 我一会儿去游泳,先把脑子调到低级趣味(手指挖鼻孔), : 再边游边想213..........
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j***y 发帖数: 5098 | 50 我先看出来的,
双黄包!
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】 : 哈哈, 这个是想不出来的.... : 狗都狗不出来 :)
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o********n 发帖数: 839 | 51 6 sex
【在 j***y 的大作中提到】 : 我先看出来的, : 双黄包!
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p*5 发帖数: 16204 | 52 想起来了
游泳有撞墙的
蝶泳发力游,体力不支的时候会瞬间做不出动作。
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p********r 发帖数: 3799 | 53 做不出动作,然后呢。。。
跑步撞墙实在不行,就走了,那蝶泳咋办?
【在 p*5 的大作中提到】 : 想起来了 : 游泳有撞墙的 : 蝶泳发力游,体力不支的时候会瞬间做不出动作。 : 所以没有实力心中没底的话,蝶泳不敢一上来就拼。
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p*5 发帖数: 16204 | 54 蝶泳没法慢游。会动作完全走样,游不下去。
其他泳姿都能减速降频游完。蝶泳要真撞墙了只能放弃了。
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】 : 做不出动作,然后呢。。。 : 跑步撞墙实在不行,就走了,那蝶泳咋办?
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p********r 发帖数: 3799 | 55 难度真大,怪不得把蝶泳放到IM的开始。
我感到安慰了,学不会蝶泳不是我的错,是太难了。。。。
【在 p*5 的大作中提到】 : 蝶泳没法慢游。会动作完全走样,游不下去。 : 其他泳姿都能减速降频游完。蝶泳要真撞墙了只能放弃了。
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 56 co-不会
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【在 p********r 的大作中提到】 : 难度真大,怪不得把蝶泳放到IM的开始。 : 我感到安慰了,学不会蝶泳不是我的错,是太难了。。。。
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