p****0
发帖数: 611 | 1 Full 1/2 table. Hero had stack of 500ish. Villain had stack of 400ish.
Table was tight. So hero selectively play loose. Raise size is almost
always around $12. Villain is a tight player. No history before.
Short after hero doubled up with set of T on the flop of AT9hhh against A9,
hero had AJo at UTG+1 led out 12. Villain at BB 3-bet to 36 (the only time
he 3-bet once hero sit down). Hero tank and called. Hero knew BB had big
pair. But still called, want to see the flop and reevaluate. Beside, hero
thought he has position.
Flop J54o. BB check. Hero tank and check. Turn 2. BB led out 45. Hero
tank and raised to 105. BB tank a while and called. River blank. BB check
, Hero? |
p******a
发帖数: 975 | 2 seems like you are ahead |
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 3 I would check back.
If you just call on turn, he river checks, I would bet river. |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 靠谱啊。 我肿么觉得珍珠哥在想要不要turn tptk into a bluff 呢？ 是不是哈？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6
【在 q****8 的大作中提到】
: I would check back.
: If you just call on turn, he river checks, I would bet river.
|
p****0
发帖数: 611 | 5 I thought of calling turn and betting river. I put him on big pair (QQ, KK,
AA). If I call the turn, very likely he will led out on the river, and I
thought it would be hard to take down the pot with only top pair. So I took
the line of minimum raise at turn. His tank and call confirmed that he
hold over pair. So the question is how likely he will fold to my river bet?
If want to take the pot in the end, not sure which line is better. Maybe
your line is better?
【在 q****8 的大作中提到】
: I would check back.
: If you just call on turn, he river checks, I would bet river.
|
p****0
发帖数: 611 | 6 嗯，在犹豫。
靠谱啊 什么意思？
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 靠谱啊。 我肿么觉得珍珠哥在想要不要turn tptk into a bluff 呢？ 是不是哈？
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 太奔放了。 check flop raise turn to rep sets. 用delayed aggression 来rep
nuts。 又和上次一样的问题。 这种bluff line, live 的鱼 有几个能知雅意呢？
KK,
took
bet?
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: I thought of calling turn and betting river. I put him on big pair (QQ, KK,
: AA). If I call the turn, very likely he will led out on the river, and I
: thought it would be hard to take down the pot with only top pair. So I took
: the line of minimum raise at turn. His tank and call confirmed that he
: hold over pair. So the question is how likely he will fold to my river bet?
:
: If want to take the pot in the end, not sure which line is better. Maybe
: your line is better?
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 我是说qing兄靠谱。 呵呵
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，在犹豫。
: 靠谱啊 什么意思？
|
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 9 I would not try to make overpair fold without any read. If u wanna take down
the pot whatsoever, I guess the best line is check flop
, raise turn, shove river.
KK,
took
bet?
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: I thought of calling turn and betting river. I put him on big pair (QQ, KK,
: AA). If I call the turn, very likely he will led out on the river, and I
: thought it would be hard to take down the pot with only top pair. So I took
: the line of minimum raise at turn. His tank and call confirmed that he
: hold over pair. So the question is how likely he will fold to my river bet?
:
: If want to take the pot in the end, not sure which line is better. Maybe
: your line is better?
|
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 10 effectively a pot size shove on river? will overpair fold?
down
【在 q****8 的大作中提到】
: I would not try to make overpair fold without any read. If u wanna take down
: the pot whatsoever, I guess the best line is check flop
: , raise turn, shove river.
:
: KK,
: took
: bet?
|
|
|
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 11 Just possible. But that will be our best shot if we want the pot.
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: effectively a pot size shove on river? will overpair fold?
:
: down
|
n***a
发帖数: 274 | 12 不是说了么
"Two biggest mistakes
Try to lay down ur villain's overpair 和try to lay down ur own bottom set "
你怎么知道villain知道你知道villain是overpair？ |
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 13 if we want to push out a marginally better hand to get it, yes. but I think
it's kinda wa/wb...
【在 q****8 的大作中提到】
: Just possible. But that will be our best shot if we want the pot.
|
s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 14 I would check behind.
,
time
hero
check
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: Full 1/2 table. Hero had stack of 500ish. Villain had stack of 400ish.
: Table was tight. So hero selectively play loose. Raise size is almost
: always around $12. Villain is a tight player. No history before.
: Short after hero doubled up with set of T on the flop of AT9hhh against A9,
: hero had AJo at UTG+1 led out 12. Villain at BB 3-bet to 36 (the only time
: he 3-bet once hero sit down). Hero tank and called. Hero knew BB had big
: pair. But still called, want to see the flop and reevaluate. Beside, hero
: thought he has position.
: Flop J54o. BB check. Hero tank and check. Turn 2. BB led out 45. Hero
: tank and raised to 105. BB tank a while and called. River blank. BB check
|
s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 15 Most villians I have seen won't fold overpair here.
KK,
took
bet?
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: I thought of calling turn and betting river. I put him on big pair (QQ, KK,
: AA). If I call the turn, very likely he will led out on the river, and I
: thought it would be hard to take down the pot with only top pair. So I took
: the line of minimum raise at turn. His tank and call confirmed that he
: hold over pair. So the question is how likely he will fold to my river bet?
:
: If want to take the pot in the end, not sure which line is better. Maybe
: your line is better?
|
p****0
发帖数: 611 | 16 呵呵，在我上一贴看见有人这么说，小本本记下了。这次就派上了用场。我知道他是有
overpair. 但是不确定他是怎么想的。当时真心想推的，但是鉴于我的image, 还有就
是live 真的是很少有人能fold overpair. 最后还是check behind. Villain showed
AA.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: 不是说了么
: "Two biggest mistakes
: Try to lay down ur villain's overpair 和try to lay down ur own bottom set "
: 你怎么知道villain知道你知道villain是overpair？
|
p****0
发帖数: 611 | 17 什么bluff line 合适呢？
float to river, villain check, I raise, villain bet I raise?
Raise on the flop and led out all the way to river?
各有利弊。1/2 table, against top pair, over pair, 我是不打算bluff了，成牌就
猛上， 什么line 都行， 呵呵。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 太奔放了。 check flop raise turn to rep sets. 用delayed aggression 来rep
: nuts。 又和上次一样的问题。 这种bluff line, live 的鱼 有几个能知雅意呢？
:
: KK,
: took
: bet?
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6
|
w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 18 为什么你跟别人反过来，别人是专bluff没好牌的。你是专bluff有好牌的？ |
p****0
发帖数: 611 | 19 性格使然。 这是我的一个leak。
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 为什么你跟别人反过来，别人是专bluff没好牌的。你是专bluff有好牌的？
|
d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 20
你得到了它
排除主观倾向 排除牌局外的因素对决策的影响
你就不再是人 你是神 牌神
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: 性格使然。 这是我的一个leak。
|
q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 21 那你没牌的时候bluff吗?
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: 性格使然。 这是我的一个leak。
|
n***a
发帖数: 274 | 22
仔细想了想这确实是个leak。原因是you can already play very profitably when
you know you have villain's overpair beat, so you don't have to bluff to
balance this line. 这个缺少乐其它大部分的bluff 哪怕被call也能起到balance
range作用的implied EV。
【在 p****0 的大作中提到】
: 性格使然。 这是我的一个leak。
|
