y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 1 1.
Preflop, I will not fold AJo to Blinds' 3BET.
On the flop, I suppose not to fold to their CB.
Turn, I do not know. But I still suppose not to fold.
Question: Am I doing sth wrong here? How can I play differently and more
profitable?
File: HH20131006 Whirlpool - $0.10-$0.25 - USD No Limit Hold'em.txt
PokerStars Zoom Hand #105136120162: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2013/
10/06 21:04:49 ET
Table 'Whirlpool' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pokercj95 ($29.81 in chips)
Seat 2: halmTaLr ($12.54 in chips)
Seat 3: pokguyho ($17.93 in chips)
Seat 4: Tonyprosto13 ($43.46 in chips)
Seat 5: drakonpusik ($9.90 in chips)
Seat 6: speedolino21 ($26.36 in chips)
Seat 7: str0ngArm ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: sfinks01 ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 9: SuBpHyLuM ($25.35 in chips)
halmTaLr: posts small blind $0.10
pokguyho: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pokercj95 [Jh As]
Tonyprosto13: folds
drakonpusik: folds
speedolino21: folds
str0ngArm: folds
sfinks01: folds
SuBpHyLuM: folds
pokercj95: raises $0.35 to $0.60
halmTaLr: folds
pokguyho: raises $1.15 to $1.75
pokercj95: calls $1.15
*** FLOP *** [2c 4s 2s]
pokguyho: bets $2.25
pokercj95: calls $2.25
*** TURN *** [2c 4s 2s] [Qs]
pokguyho: bets $5
pokercj95: raises $11.90 to $16.90
pokguyho: calls $8.93 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2.97) returned to pokercj95
*** FIRST RIVER *** [2c 4s 2s Qs] [Jc]
*** SECOND RIVER *** [2c 4s 2s Qs] [8h]
*** FIRST SHOW DOWN ***
pokguyho: shows [Kd Qd] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
pokercj95: shows [Jh As] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
pokguyho collected $17.17 from pot
*** SECOND SHOW DOWN ***
pokguyho: shows [Kd Qd] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
pokercj95: shows [Jh As] (a pair of Deuces)
pokguyho collected $17.17 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $35.96 | Rake $1.62
Hand was run twice
FIRST Board [2c 4s 2s Qs Jc]
SECOND Board [2c 4s 2s Qs 8h]
Seat 1: pokercj95 (button) showed [Jh As] and lost with two pair, Jacks and
Deuces, and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 2: halmTaLr (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: pokguyho (big blind) showed [Kd Qd] and won ($17.17) with two pair,
Queens and Deuces, and won ($17.17) with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 4: Tonyprosto13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: drakonpusik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: speedolino21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: str0ngArm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sfinks01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SuBpHyLuM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
2. 这手牌的特定就是deep。 300ＢＢ ｅｆｆｅｃｔｉｖｅ.
Preflop, I do the right thing.
Flop, I CB here ,and fold to deep guy's reraise, but call the shorty.
The question is whether I should check here. If there is too much action, I
fold directly.
Question: What will you in the scenario?
File: HH20131006 Whirlpool - $0.10-$0.25 - USD No Limit Hold'em.txt
PokerStars Zoom Hand #105133527188: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2013/
10/06 19:33:31 ET
Table 'Whirlpool' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pokercj95 ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: Hägar311 ($28.28 in chips)
Seat 3: lowfatmilk03 ($21.54 in chips)
Seat 4: Patov ($24.69 in chips)
Seat 5: sandoraless ($31.51 in chips)
Seat 6: dembek1 ($21.95 in chips)
Seat 7: Agios4000 ($20.05 in chips)
Seat 8: stachu_tg ($66.08 in chips)
Seat 9: pocho06 ($25 in chips)
Hägar311: posts small blind $0.10
lowfatmilk03: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pokercj95 [Kd Kc]
Patov: raises $0.75 to $1
sandoraless: folds
dembek1: folds
Agios4000: calls $1
stachu_tg: folds
pocho06: folds
pokercj95: raises $2.50 to $3.50
Hägar311: raises $2.50 to $6
lowfatmilk03: folds
Patov: calls $5
Agios4000: folds
pokercj95: raises $19 to $25 and is all-in
Hägar311: calls $19
Patov: calls $18.69 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4s 8h Jh]
*** TURN *** [4s 8h Jh] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [4s 8h Jh Js] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hägar311: shows [Td Ts] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
pokercj95: shows [Kd Kc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
pokercj95 collected $0.62 from side pot
Patov: shows [Qd Qc] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)
Patov collected $73.32 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $75.94 Main pot $73.32. Side pot $0.62. | Rake $2
Board [4s 8h Jh Js Qs]
Seat 1: pokercj95 (button) showed [Kd Kc] and won ($0.62) with two pair,
Kings and Jacks
Seat 2: Hägar311 (small blind) showed [Td Ts] and lost with two pair,
Jacks and Tens
Seat 3: lowfatmilk03 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Patov showed [Qd Qc] and won ($73.32) with a full house, Queens full
of Jacks
Seat 5: sandoraless folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dembek1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Agios4000 folded before Flop
Seat 8: stachu_tg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pocho06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
3.
Preflop: I do not expect some player behind me will cold call my 3Bet.
From my guess, the guy colding call 3bets definitly will have JJ, QQ in his
range.
Flop: My plan is to bet/fold.
Turn: Questionalb call?
Two flush draw on the board now. He bets so small, I begin to
suspect he has air now, because the board is super dangerous now.
River: I do not know. I do take time think about it for a while. It seems I
am behind, but I still make the break-even at the best call.
Question: Will street will you guys play differently?
File: HH20131006 Whirlpool - $0.10-$0.25 - USD No Limit Hold'em.txt
PokerStars Zoom Hand #105134934026: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2013/
10/06 20:20:01 ET
Table 'Whirlpool' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: wfalcao08 ($26.50 in chips)
Seat 2: dembek1 ($35.98 in chips)
Seat 3: Eduard.Pop ($66.09 in chips)
Seat 4: Tiagø ($12.27 in chips)
Seat 5: A.Gorkun ($13.07 in chips)
Seat 6: urdd93 ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 7: achiles79 ($41 in chips)
Seat 8: pokercj95 ($30.09 in chips)
Seat 9: 664939743 ($32 in chips)
dembek1: posts small blind $0.10
Eduard.Pop: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pokercj95 [Ah Ad]
Tiagø: folds
A.Gorkun: folds
urdd93: folds
achiles79: raises $0.50 to $0.75
pokercj95: raises $1.35 to $2.10
664939743: folds
wfalcao08: calls $2.10
dembek1: folds
Eduard.Pop: folds
achiles79: calls $1.35
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5c Qc]
achiles79: checks
pokercj95: bets $3.80
wfalcao08: calls $3.80
achiles79: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 5c Qc] [3d]
pokercj95: checks
wfalcao08: bets $3.75
pokercj95: calls $3.75
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5c Qc 3d] [4d]
pokercj95: checks
wfalcao08: bets $10.50
pokercj95: calls $10.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wfalcao08: shows [Kd Qd] (a flush, King high)
pokercj95: mucks hand
wfalcao08 collected $40.83 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42.75 | Rake $1.92
Board [Jd 5c Qc 3d 4d]
Seat 1: wfalcao08 (button) showed [Kd Qd] and won ($40.83) with a flush,
King high
Seat 2: dembek1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Eduard.Pop (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Tiagø folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: A.Gorkun folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: urdd93 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: achiles79 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: pokercj95 mucked [Ah Ad]
Seat 9: 664939743 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
4. This is definitly a bad play.
Preflop: fine
Flop:fine
Turn: Opponent C/R so big. I smell the danger, make the losing call. Even
then I should re-value the river. If opponent bets allin on the river, I
should fold.
River: definitly stupid.
Question: Which street will you guys play different than me?
File: HH20131006 Whirlpool #4 - $0.10-$0.25 - USD No Limit Hold'em_2.txt
PokerStars Zoom Hand #105136524557: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2013/
10/06 21:20:10 ET
Table 'Whirlpool' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: str0ngArm ($58.91 in chips)
Seat 2: anze1991 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 3: common1326 ($12.75 in chips)
Seat 4: BIS84 ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: Xyxas37 ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: pokercj95 ($56.46 in chips)
Seat 7: sberrr1 ($21.55 in chips)
Seat 8: jbarez ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 9: Jisonlynn ($11.18 in chips)
anze1991: posts small blind $0.10
common1326: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pokercj95 [7c 6c]
BIS84: folds
Xyxas37: folds
pokercj95: raises $0.35 to $0.60
sberrr1: calls $0.60
jbarez: folds
Jisonlynn: folds
str0ngArm: calls $0.60
anze1991: calls $0.50
common1326: folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 8s 6s]
anze1991: checks
pokercj95: bets $1.40
sberrr1: calls $1.40
str0ngArm: calls $1.40
anze1991: calls $1.40
*** TURN *** [6h 8s 6s] [4d]
anze1991: checks
pokercj95: bets $3.90
sberrr1: folds
str0ngArm: calls $3.90
anze1991: raises $7.60 to $11.50
pokercj95: calls $7.60
str0ngArm: folds
*** RIVER *** [6h 8s 6s 4d] [3d]
anze1991: bets $11.25 and is all-in
pokercj95: calls $11.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
anze1991: shows [7h 5h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
pokercj95: shows [7c 6c] (three of a kind, Sixes)
anze1991 collected $55.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $57.65 | Rake $2
Board [6h 8s 6s 4d 3d]
Seat 1: str0ngArm (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: anze1991 (small blind) showed [7h 5h] and won ($55.65) with a
straight, Four to Eight
Seat 3: common1326 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: BIS84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Xyxas37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pokercj95 showed [7c 6c] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 7: sberrr1 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: jbarez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Jisonlynn folded before Flop (didn't bet) | p******a
发帖数: 975 | 2 3bet pot is exactly the same as single raised pot: call when you have a hand
, fold when you don't.
Just assume this is a single raised pot. Are you going to call the cbet? Are
you going to call the turn bet?
BTW, how can you play on pokerstars? | p******a
发帖数: 975 | 3 Also, reading hh like this is very tiring. I assume most people (including
me) will have some difficulty.
Plz convert your hh first. There are a lot of websites you can use.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/
This one for example. | p******a
发帖数: 975 | 4 Following is the hand-post tips from 2+2, which helps a lot to improve the
quality of the post, plz read.
HAND POSTING TIPS
Just about everything in this section can be observed in every thread that
good, regular posters make - that's not a coincidence! Following these
guidelines is essential to posting a hand that will generate good discussion.
4. Please just include one hand per thread. There are exceptions, such as if
you have a couple hands against the same player or hands that share some
kind of theme, but posting five hands and asking "how did I play these" is
not going to generate any discussion.
5. Convert your hands. 2+2 has a built-in hand converter (when posting a new
thread, click the button on the upper right labeled "click to expand" to
open it); if it doesn't support the site you play on, links to other
converters are below. Hand histories generated by the site are difficult to
read; converters make it easy to see stack sizes, positions, and for readers
to follow the action. Use them whenever possible. Also, tend to hit "
preview" rather than "submit" when done typing your post to make sure
everything looks ok.
6. Do not include results; do not only post hands you lost. If the way you
post your hand (anything from thread titles like "can I get away from this?"
to the way you word questions you ask in your thread; or, of course, the
obvious mistake of including results at the end of the hand) gives away the
result of the hand, then you will not receive unbiased advice about how to
play it. There's about a 0% chance that hands including results end up
generating good discussion. Similarly, just because you won a hand doesn't
mean you played it perfectly. The decisions you make in a hand are more
important than the result; so make posts centered around interesting
decisions, not around hands you lost.
7. Include relevant information about the hand. How have you been playing
lately? How has villain been playing? What kind of history do you have
together? Do you have statistics (VPIP/PFR/AF/anything else relevant to the
situation) on him? The quality of responses to your thread will be much
higher if you do everything possible to put readers in your shoes, seeing
what you see, at the time you played the hand. If you just post a hand and
say "how do I react to this check-raise" then the first 5 responses will be
"that depends" and ask you the above questions.
8. Do not include villain(s)' name(s) in strat threads. Strat threads are
for discussion about what the proper decisions in the hand are with the
information you had at the time the hand was played; give whatever reads you
had on your opponent at the time, not the guy's name. When you mention
someone by name, people bring their own preconceived notions of how that
person plays into the thread, which might be helpful for playing against
that specific person in the future but is not helpful for improving your
overall decisionmaking at poker. | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 5 3Bet pot is way different, especially Blinds 3Bet against Btn's raise, (Btn
3Bet against loose utg's raise).
1. 3Bet pot is sort of shallow, it will take half pot, half pot, half pot to
go allin.
you have to raise in some point to go allin from single raise pot, or you
could say you need 4th street to get all chips in.
2. Blinds 3Bet with all kinds of crap, and usually they will continuation
bet. Because blinds' hand range is wild, and CB so wild, it is very hard to
read their hands.
However, we usually can read opponent's hand range from single raise pot,
according to their position.
3. It is a kind of game flow type thing. 3Bettor 3bets because he think you
raise light, not because of his hand's stength. You call their 3bet or 4bet
by yourself because you think their hand is crap.
The dynamic usually will not happen in single raised pot.
hand
Are
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: 3bet pot is exactly the same as single raised pot: call when you have a hand
: , fold when you don't.
: Just assume this is a single raised pot. Are you going to call the cbet? Are
: you going to call the turn bet?
: BTW, how can you play on pokerstars?
| z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 6 Really? I usually will narrow my calling range in 3bet or 4bet pot...
remember one hand in last year's WSOP main event, Greg Merson folded QQ
preflop facing 3 or 4 bets, one player behind him folded TT. Both made
correct decision, one of earlier players had KK:)
hand
【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: 3bet pot is exactly the same as single raised pot: call when you have a hand
: , fold when you don't.
: Just assume this is a single raised pot. Are you going to call the cbet? Are
: you going to call the turn bet?
: BTW, how can you play on pokerstars?
| p******a
发帖数: 975 | 7 You mean calling range preflop or flop cbet?
Preflop, yes. Postflop, putting the villain on a range and make decision the
same as single raised pot.
I know nothing about tournament, so no comment on the main event.
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: Really? I usually will narrow my calling range in 3bet or 4bet pot...
: remember one hand in last year's WSOP main event, Greg Merson folded QQ
: preflop facing 3 or 4 bets, one player behind him folded TT. Both made
: correct decision, one of earlier players had KK:)
:
: hand
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 说起3bet strategy
难道这个不是villain related？
对上rock，ak／qq也可以考虑fold了 | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 hand 1 如果对手从blind 3 bet 很多， 这牌很standard 啊。 没啥好讨论的。
不过在这级别， 其实，fold pre 也很好。。。
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: 1.
: Preflop, I will not fold AJo to Blinds' 3BET.
: On the flop, I suppose not to fold to their CB.
: Turn, I do not know. But I still suppose not to fold.
: Question: Am I doing sth wrong here? How can I play differently and more
: profitable?
: File: HH20131006 Whirlpool - $0.10-$0.25 - USD No Limit Hold'em.txt
: PokerStars Zoom Hand #105136120162: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2013/
: 10/06 21:04:49 ET
: Table 'Whirlpool' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 10 话说回来，tourney达人改打fullring nl25真的是。。。哎。。。
NL25难道不是拿着monster尽情bet，小牌就let it go，weak tight稳定赚钱的最佳
level | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 不过，我觉得对手打得不好. on that board, Opponent Continuation Bets blindly,
considering my hand range including a ton of A highs, pairs, broad ways,
Suited Connectors(usually will not have such stuff). I will call a ton of
stuff, and make moves with polarized range.
To be frank, I do not konw whether I should check/fold on low board with KQ
in that kind of situation. I guess usually I will check/fold with KQ against
good player.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: hand 1 如果对手从blind 3 bet 很多， 这牌很standard 啊。 没啥好讨论的。
: 不过在这级别， 其实，fold pre 也很好。。。
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