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TexasHoldem版 - tourney后期 3bet shove的问题
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500
1
哥越来越体会到,越到后来,payout jump对决策的影响越大,只凭感觉来决定对策,
真的是在送钱。争取这个星期内,在原来的app上加入icm的计算。
昨晚手贱,8点的时候报了一个低买入高保证金的tourney,尼玛900人,整整耗了哥6个
半小时,只赢了一点点零花钱。
分享两手牌,哥不确定自己打的对不对,看看大家意见。
hand 1, ~40bb stack, position 5/11, hero kjo 19/17/6 open 2.5bb on utg+1,
all fold to sb, 18bb stack 21/15/4, who is an average player with not- high
aggression factor, call, bb fold
(pot ~6.2bb)flop 2c6cJd, villain check, hero bet ~3.8bb, v call
(pot ~14bb)turn 8h, v check, hero bet ~4.6bb, v call
(pot ~24bb)river 9s, v donk pot size bet with 3bb left in his stack,
hero snap call(wtf? 6MAX 打多了)
hand 2, ~18bb stack, position 6/6, UTG average player(position 5/6) 23/18/7
with 19bb stack, regularly 3bb open.folded to hero whose image is tight, and
did not 3bet in final table yet.
a little history of villain: he just lost 1/2 stack in a clash with BB
couple hands ago. the recent hands we see he showed is ajo,99 with 3bb open
in middle/early position.
Hero tank and push with 66.(回想当时的想法,not really high FE here,冲着
gamble去的,因为就我们两个短筹,第四名~40bb,这里是不是打错了?)
W********m
发帖数: 7793
2
D神BSO 900 人tourney finish top 6哈。
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
3
冤枉了,真心求意见,尤其hand2,明知道对手很少的fold equity,还硬上,真是迷惘
c*****t
发帖数: 817
4
我个人的意见。改成2.25 ~ 2.5BB open. Always CB 50% pot.
hand 1: 我会flop CB 少一点点。然后check the turn for pot control。这样会少输
。毕竟KJ不是收三条街value的牌。而且敌人如果check raise semi bluff的话,你也
只能fold。所以KJ我宁愿给free card而不是value。
hand 2:Risk 18 BBs 去赢锅里的5bb。假设被call了你有35%的equity。所以被call了
你输大约18 - (38* 35%) = 5bb。所以你需要敌人有50%的机会fold。应该是有的。所
以光看equity问题不大。你们两个是小筹码。所以从ICM的角度看问题也不大。
但是注意这个结论只限于你是BB。不然我会fold。因为不知道后面的人会不会wake up
with something。
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
5
如果我有35%的equity,且对方不会fold,我这个shove的chips
ev是35%*38-65%*18还是35%*38-18?
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
6
EV = xp+(1-x)(-LV+WH)
这是从"let it be range"来的,前一阵子,我还专门去validate一下,以为理解了,今被
化学猫这么一提,哥又confused了。
貌似,又开始怀疑那公式了,请开化我。
c*****t
发帖数: 817
7
why do you need any formula since there are only two possiblities? You dont
need to complicate things with formulas.
1. He folds. You gain 5bbs -- 3bbs from his raise and 2bbs from blinds and
antes.
2. He calls. The pot is 38bbs. You have 35% equity in the pot. So on average
you end up with 38 * 35% = 13bbs -- you lose 5bbs on average.
So you need him to fold with >=50% chance to make this move positive.
Of course, as his call range becomes bigger then you will also have more
equity in the final pot. There are also ICM factors etc. But we dont need to
overcomplicate things since you only got 20 seconds to think and you might
be multitabling.
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