f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 1 a few guys got into this argument last week.
heads up, big pot, on the river, MP checks, and LP starts his trash talk ...
then LP bets big, MP tanks for a long time while LP continues his BS.
in the end, MP makes the call. LP says "i have a full house..."
dealer then mucks MP's cards.
LP then insists, even if (only if) he doesn't have a full house, he still
wins this hand because MP mucks.
NO! in HU (only), before your opponent calls, you can trask talk or bluff
whatever way you want, and if you successfully make him fold, good job.
but if he calls you, you announce your hand, make him fold, and then you
cannot show the hand you claim, you LOSE, simple as that, in many card rooms
, such behaviors will get a warning too.
of couse, as his opponent, we should never muck our hand before seeing it
for sure. | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | | T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 3 Unfortunately LP is correct. At least based on many Casino's rules on cash
game.
It is up to dealer, not players, to decide who has the winning hand when all
parties went to showdown.
LP can claim what he has all he want before AND after MP makes the call (at
least in cash game). His words about his hand ranking doesn't count unless
his words implied actions, such as "I fold", "I muck", then it is binding.
It is dealer's authority to decide who wins the pot. Before dealer can make
the decision, if MP mucked his hand or dealer mucked his hand before cards
turn face up, then accoding to rules, the winning hand is the last hand
standing, in this case, it is LP's hand. MP has the responsiblity to protest
his cards. If he can't protect his card before his hand turns face up, he
can't claim the winning hand. | T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 4 that is for cash game. I heard from tourney, if you talk about your hand
ranking, or reveal your hands to your opponents, you hand will be considered
dead. | p*******p 发帖数: 13670 | 5 then i suggest mp buy a gun, and put a bullet in dealer and lp's nose
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【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : Unfortunately LP is correct. At least based on many Casino's rules on cash : game. : It is up to dealer, not players, to decide who has the winning hand when all : parties went to showdown. : LP can claim what he has all he want before AND after MP makes the call (at : least in cash game). His words about his hand ranking doesn't count unless : his words implied actions, such as "I fold", "I muck", then it is binding. : It is dealer's authority to decide who wins the pot. Before dealer can make : the decision, if MP mucked his hand or dealer mucked his hand before cards : turn face up, then accoding to rules, the winning hand is the last hand
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 6 2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading
hands, but players are responsible for holding onto their cards until the
winner is declared. Although verbal declarations as to the contents of a
hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of
causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result
in forfeiture of the pot. (For more information on miscalling a hand see “
Section 11 - Lowball,” Rule 15 and Rule16.)
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【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : Unfortunately LP is correct. At least based on many Casino's rules on cash : game. : It is up to dealer, not players, to decide who has the winning hand when all : parties went to showdown. : LP can claim what he has all he want before AND after MP makes the call (at : least in cash game). His words about his hand ranking doesn't count unless : his words implied actions, such as "I fold", "I muck", then it is binding. : It is dealer's authority to decide who wins the pot. Before dealer can make : the decision, if MP mucked his hand or dealer mucked his hand before cards : turn face up, then accoding to rules, the winning hand is the last hand
| T*********k 发帖数: 1621 | 7 The keyword is "may". And how do you judge "deliberately"? Guys can simply
claim they misread their hands.
It is unethical for sure, but it is not illegal. Poker is not a game of man
of my words.
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【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : 2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading : hands, but players are responsible for holding onto their cards until the : winner is declared. Although verbal declarations as to the contents of a : hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of : causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result : in forfeiture of the pot. (For more information on miscalling a hand see “ : Section 11 - Lowball,” Rule 15 and Rule16.) : : all : at
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 8 true, it's up to floor's decision and we can imagine the drama, hehe.
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【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】 : The keyword is "may". And how do you judge "deliberately"? Guys can simply : claim they misread their hands. : It is unethical for sure, but it is not illegal. Poker is not a game of man : of my words. : : result
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