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TexasHoldem版 - A few hands to discuss
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c******q
发帖数: 456
1
The board is so quiet this weekend. Let's discuss a few hands played
yesterday at PARX.
Hand 1: 1/2 game. 7-way limped pot, hero had Q2o in BB. The flop was QJ2
with QJ of spades. Checked to button who led $10, hero made it $25 to go.
All folded to a LP player who 3-betted to $55, button quickly folded. What
should hero do? both
LP and hero had $140ish before flop action. The LP player was quiet
on the table and didn't do anything out of line yet.
Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What
should hero do?
hero had $1300ish to start this hand, the limper had $350, button
covered both of us. No read on the limper yet. Button was a solid TAG player
and hadn't seen him raising on the button that often.
Hand 3: 2/5 game. Hero posted blinds in HJ. A MP player raised to $10, 6
players called including hero with T8h. Flop came 763 with 73 of hearts.
Checked to hero who betted $40, button raised to $115, all folded to hero,
what should hero do?
Hero had $900 to start this hand, button got hero covered. button
was a good aggressive player who was capable to make a move if he sensed the
opportunity.
h****5
发帖数: 191
2
Personally I would,
Hand 1: shove and be happy since we r both short stacked. folding is too
nitty.
Hand 2: call the c-bet and raise any blank turn.
Hand 3: raise to $305 and call the shove. we r not in terrible shape against
any hand.
H****r
发帖数: 2801
3
1) Without any history it's hard to put LP on QQ,JJ. 22 might be a small
chance because hero's holding a 2 himself? I might rank the possible hands
as:
flush draw
straight draw
QJ
J2
////// less and less possible hands /////////
AA
KK
22
JJ
QQ
Overall I might choose to call 60% of the time shove 30%, and fold 10%

quiet
call

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: The board is so quiet this weekend. Let's discuss a few hands played
: yesterday at PARX.
: Hand 1: 1/2 game. 7-way limped pot, hero had Q2o in BB. The flop was QJ2
: with QJ of spades. Checked to button who led $10, hero made it $25 to go.
: All folded to a LP player who 3-betted to $55, button quickly folded. What
: should hero do? both
: LP and hero had $140ish before flop action. The LP player was quiet
: on the table and didn't do anything out of line yet.
: Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
: with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What

H****r
发帖数: 2801
4
2) This hand seems simple, hero got the nuts on the flop, rt? Do anything
cant be too wrong with the nuts. Most often I'd still lead the bet from the
beginning. $60 seems good. If anyone reraise i'd re-repop hahahah.... The
catch is that in this draw heavy hands many people just cant let their
drawing hands go... So i'd just tax them to the max.

Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What
should hero do?
hero had $1300ish to start this hand, the limper had $350, button
covered both of us. No read on the limper yet. Button was a solid TAG player
and hadn't seen him raising on the button that often.

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: The board is so quiet this weekend. Let's discuss a few hands played
: yesterday at PARX.
: Hand 1: 1/2 game. 7-way limped pot, hero had Q2o in BB. The flop was QJ2
: with QJ of spades. Checked to button who led $10, hero made it $25 to go.
: All folded to a LP player who 3-betted to $55, button quickly folded. What
: should hero do? both
: LP and hero had $140ish before flop action. The LP player was quiet
: on the table and didn't do anything out of line yet.
: Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
: with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What

H****r
发帖数: 2801
5
3) This time hero got the heavy draw hand. I might think of villain's range
as:
45
77
66
33
67
flush draw (2 over also)
others...
It seems to be a tough decision... If the button is capable of this kina
move with air then a allin semi bluff might be good? But quite often i'd
still fold here...

763
quiet
call

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: The board is so quiet this weekend. Let's discuss a few hands played
: yesterday at PARX.
: Hand 1: 1/2 game. 7-way limped pot, hero had Q2o in BB. The flop was QJ2
: with QJ of spades. Checked to button who led $10, hero made it $25 to go.
: All folded to a LP player who 3-betted to $55, button quickly folded. What
: should hero do? both
: LP and hero had $140ish before flop action. The LP player was quiet
: on the table and didn't do anything out of line yet.
: Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
: with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What

c******q
发帖数: 456
6
Here is my thought,
Hand 1: I'd rule out AA/KK/QQ/JJ from villian's range because (1) it is
likely that villian will raise pf after a few limpers when holding those
hand (2) even he limpes, it is more likely that he would lead out on the
flop with such a draw heavy board if he had AA/KK. There is slightly chance
that he has QQ/JJ. QJ/22 are certainly in his range. J2s is possbile but
unlikely. And if he had bottom two on the flop, I think he would lead out
rather than slow play then wake up after BB check-raise the flop. Combo draw
is possible too. Quite a few 1/2 players like to plan to see a free card
first and then decide to play fast when facing aggression. So here is his
range, QJ/22, combo draw, slightly chance of JJ/J2s/Q2s. With the stack size
, I think call on the flop is a bad decision because you will play a big pot
OOP and there are not many cards you like on the turn. So either fold or
shove. Against villian's range, we are dominated by QJ/22/JJ, dominate
opponent's J2, coin flip against his combo draws. I don't think hero's hand
is strong enough to play the whole stack here. I'd fold 90% of time unless I
have good read on the opponent that he is kind of maniac player.
Hand 2: This is such a draw heavy board. If checking on the flop, the button
will very likely check back no matter what he has. And there are so many
turn cards which will kill the action. If leading out, it can be
interpolated by the opponents as either strong hand or some marginal hands
intending to bet/fold, which may get some actions if opponents have a draw
or a overpair with backdoor flush draw. So I'd lead out around 2/3 of the
pot.
Hand 3: Yes, the button has a quite wide range here, flush draw, two pairs,
straight, set, or total bluff. Call here is not good since hero will play
OOP and has no clue where he is when flush hits on the turn. I don't like
the flop either because hero's hand has enough equity against button's range
except the flush draw. I'd rather to 3-bet to $250ish and am willing to
play the whole stack if button fights back. More importantly if button 4-
bets back, we can pretty much rule out the flush draw (probably except A5h/
A4h) from his range, which are those hands we don't have much equity against
with.
H****r
发帖数: 2801
7
3rd hand, Why if button 4-bet we can rule out flush draws?

chance
draw

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: Here is my thought,
: Hand 1: I'd rule out AA/KK/QQ/JJ from villian's range because (1) it is
: likely that villian will raise pf after a few limpers when holding those
: hand (2) even he limpes, it is more likely that he would lead out on the
: flop with such a draw heavy board if he had AA/KK. There is slightly chance
: that he has QQ/JJ. QJ/22 are certainly in his range. J2s is possbile but
: unlikely. And if he had bottom two on the flop, I think he would lead out
: rather than slow play then wake up after BB check-raise the flop. Combo draw
: is possible too. Quite a few 1/2 players like to plan to see a free card
: first and then decide to play fast when facing aggression. So here is his

c****1
发帖数: 457
8
1: fold, dont't think drawing hand or one pair can make that move in 1/2
game. so not too many hands you can beat
2: pot 80, bet 60. very likely your opponents hit 99-JJ, two pair, one pair/
str8 draw combo. they think they have the right odd to call, but actually
they dont. so it's value town here.
3. if you think any heart is your out, call. otherwise,fold. overall, I
prefer fold here.

quiet
call

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: The board is so quiet this weekend. Let's discuss a few hands played
: yesterday at PARX.
: Hand 1: 1/2 game. 7-way limped pot, hero had Q2o in BB. The flop was QJ2
: with QJ of spades. Checked to button who led $10, hero made it $25 to go.
: All folded to a LP player who 3-betted to $55, button quickly folded. What
: should hero do? both
: LP and hero had $140ish before flop action. The LP player was quiet
: on the table and didn't do anything out of line yet.
: Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
: with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What

p****r
发帖数: 9164
9
1. first hand is easy fold for me. villian very likey had QJ or 22.
2. Your hand can get a lot of action from villian's raising range. A lot
of turn card can kill the action, and we are not deep enough to worry about
free roll(KQ with flush draw) here, so try to get as much money in as
possible on the flop.

3. With stack so deep, I will call on the flop and reevaluate it on the
turn.

pair/

【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 1: fold, dont't think drawing hand or one pair can make that move in 1/2
: game. so not too many hands you can beat
: 2: pot 80, bet 60. very likely your opponents hit 99-JJ, two pair, one pair/
: str8 draw combo. they think they have the right odd to call, but actually
: they dont. so it's value town here.
: 3. if you think any heart is your out, call. otherwise,fold. overall, I
: prefer fold here.
:
: quiet
: call

H****r
发帖数: 2801
10
My thinking process about the 1st hand might showed one of my big leaks lol.
..

about

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 1. first hand is easy fold for me. villian very likey had QJ or 22.
: 2. Your hand can get a lot of action from villian's raising range. A lot
: of turn card can kill the action, and we are not deep enough to worry about
: free roll(KQ with flush draw) here, so try to get as much money in as
: possible on the flop.
:
: 3. With stack so deep, I will call on the flop and reevaluate it on the
: turn.
:
: pair/

p****r
发帖数: 9164
11
not necessary. when we make a big decision, I think we should think more
of money, less than our hand.. No shame to fold the winner once a while when
we do not have much money invested and our hand is far from nuts although
we have strong holding.

lol.

【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: My thinking process about the 1st hand might showed one of my big leaks lol.
: ..
:
: about

p******e
发帖数: 327
12
i would:
1. fold
2. check raise
3. call. if doesn't hit and opponent is strong, fold.

quiet
call

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: The board is so quiet this weekend. Let's discuss a few hands played
: yesterday at PARX.
: Hand 1: 1/2 game. 7-way limped pot, hero had Q2o in BB. The flop was QJ2
: with QJ of spades. Checked to button who led $10, hero made it $25 to go.
: All folded to a LP player who 3-betted to $55, button quickly folded. What
: should hero do? both
: LP and hero had $140ish before flop action. The LP player was quiet
: on the table and didn't do anything out of line yet.
: Hand 2: 2/5 game. Button raised to $25 after one limper. Hero made the call
: with KQh in SB, the limper called. Flop was JT9 with JT of clubs. What

p****t
发帖数: 292
13
hand 1: my first thought was to fold, but then I noticed the tiny 3-bet size
. I guess I call, plan to c/f turn and value river if turn gets checked
through.
hand 2: I like to bet out, hoping to get limper along and build a pot fast
as half of the deck are bad cards on the turn.
hand 3: fold. out of position, only 3 clear outs against an aggressive
player and awkward spr.
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