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TexasHoldem版 - 周末在WV玩了(中)
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昨天在harrahs AC今天又出门偷玩了3小时!
A Hand to Share, Bad CBetlimp or not
share some hands讨论一手牌
several hands played yesterdayOne hand
AQ flopped A, how to play?这牌怎么打?
AA slow play is a bad ideastraight
这手牌啥思路?fold 太重要了
超级臭的一把How should this be played?
相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: he话题: mp话题: bet话题: flop话题: called
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
1
OK,几牌俺自己的牌吧,其实没什么精彩之处。
1) AJs,LP, raise to $15, 2 limp callers.
flop: Jc5s6s, both check to me, bet $15 (打得有问题),MP check raises to $30
,i call, the other guy folds.
turn: Td or some blank. MP bets $30 (interesting), i shove $$110, he thinks
for a while and calls with As3s.
river: 4s, i got wiped out.
i ask him what if i come on top on flop, he says still he'd call most of
time with two cards coming.
2) re-load $200, a few hands later, pick up QQ at button, $20 into a limped
pot, UTG and MP call.
flop: QT5 rainbow. check to me, bet another $20, UTG calls.
turn: J, only complete a gutshot, i bet $45, UTG is short and shoves $80
with JJ, well, wish u had a large stack.
3) AA at UTG, bet $20, got 5 callers! how do i feel? lol, oh, yeah "great",
right?
flop: A58 rainbow, don't expect anyone would bet if i check here, so i bet
out a weak $40.
to my surprise, MP (an old asian guy) announces he's all-in with $150 on top
, everyone folds.
he turns over 5h8h (for $20 pre-flop call?) and proudly says two pair.
turn: blank
river: 8.
s*******o
发帖数: 4896
2
第一把标注有问题啊
你AsJs,他怎么会有As3s?应该你是AJ其他的什么花色吧

30
thinks
limped

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: OK,几牌俺自己的牌吧,其实没什么精彩之处。
: 1) AJs,LP, raise to $15, 2 limp callers.
: flop: Jc5s6s, both check to me, bet $15 (打得有问题),MP check raises to $30
: ,i call, the other guy folds.
: turn: Td or some blank. MP bets $30 (interesting), i shove $$110, he thinks
: for a while and calls with As3s.
: river: 4s, i got wiped out.
: i ask him what if i come on top on flop, he says still he'd call most of
: time with two cards coming.
: 2) re-load $200, a few hands later, pick up QQ at button, $20 into a limped

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
3
yes, i got AJs, typo.

【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 第一把标注有问题啊
: 你AsJs,他怎么会有As3s?应该你是AJ其他的什么花色吧
:
: 30
: thinks
: limped

s*******o
发帖数: 4896
4
实在太羡慕你们有这么多donk可以抓啊
这种蹲一个晚上能回来不少钱吧

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: yes, i got AJs, typo.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
5
区区而已,俺有很多leaks,而且不善于max value,不善于play big stack,见笑了。

【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 实在太羡慕你们有这么多donk可以抓啊
: 这种蹲一个晚上能回来不少钱吧

p****r
发帖数: 9164
6
老大太谦虚了, 业余打牌能打到您这样,已经很不容易了。 打big stack时
,多想想pot control, risk/reward 一类的就好了。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 区区而已,俺有很多leaks,而且不善于max value,不善于play big stack,见笑了。
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
7
象俺这样的业余选手的致命之处就是想赢怕输,情况稍微一复杂就脑子短路,其实打错
不要紧,要紧的是缺乏连贯的思路,就象下棋,看不到几步,先将一军再说的感觉。
俺一般double up以后就偏于保守,经常还cash out再说,唯一一次疯掉,还是因为牌
太顺,乱来乱有理,没功夫跑路,一路赢到$2700。绝大多数时候都是不死不活的耗着
或者填大坑。
俺这样的要赢钱,纯粹指望还有更差的,此外,拼谁能半夜不缺氧,呵呵。

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 老大太谦虚了, 业余打牌能打到您这样,已经很不容易了。 打big stack时
: ,多想想pot control, risk/reward 一类的就好了。

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
8
5h8h (for $20 pre-flop call?),so typical at WV. got burned today by a
similar hand, and reraised me after flop with flush draw, when I had a over
pair QQ. I called, and pushed all in when the turn missed. He called and
got flush on the river. sigh....
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
9
去以前俺研究了一下2+2上面讲的WV的情况,反映普遍比较loose,action多,果然如此。
AA UTG 10x,然后后面5个loose callers,真不是一件喜闻乐见的事情。
就业余玩玩,让人suck out这么一次,够恶心一礼拜的,呵呵,咱这业余poker life的
长度和量都还没有到到能轻易淹没小概率(长期而言)不爽的程度。

over

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 5h8h (for $20 pre-flop call?),so typical at WV. got burned today by a
: similar hand, and reraised me after flop with flush draw, when I had a over
: pair QQ. I called, and pushed all in when the turn missed. He called and
: got flush on the river. sigh....

s*********r
发帖数: 4210
10
顺便说一把我打的2-5. 老大帮看看这样是不是最好。
QJo, lp, call 5. small blind raised to 25, BB calls, mp+1 calls, I call. (
usually I would have folded here, but on tilt)
flop 9TK rainbow, SB and BB checks, MP+1 think and bet out 75. I paused and
reraise to 150. All fold.
Is this the best way to play this hand? SB is a LAG guy, BB an indian women
seems to be solid player just sitting down, not much info. MP+1 LAG too,
claimed to bluff with 200 with less in the pot couple times today, but have
not seen his bluffing hands for sure.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
11
i only played 2/5 for about 60 hours ever, so it's a stake that i'm not
familiar or comfortable with, hehe, player should easily give some good
suggestions.
so if we ignore the stake here, then i guess the most important thing here
is the remaining stack size. if both are still relatively deep for, say,
100BB+, i'd slow play here on the flop, with your nice position.
mini-raise is pretty strong in most cases, which ppl would think you want at
least a call from them.
he doesn't have a hand to pay you here.

and
women
have

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 顺便说一把我打的2-5. 老大帮看看这样是不是最好。
: QJo, lp, call 5. small blind raised to 25, BB calls, mp+1 calls, I call. (
: usually I would have folded here, but on tilt)
: flop 9TK rainbow, SB and BB checks, MP+1 think and bet out 75. I paused and
: reraise to 150. All fold.
: Is this the best way to play this hand? SB is a LAG guy, BB an indian women
: seems to be solid player just sitting down, not much info. MP+1 LAG too,
: claimed to bluff with 200 with less in the pot couple times today, but have
: not seen his bluffing hands for sure.

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
12
AJ这牌打得有点问题,FLOP BET得太小了,BET 35 对家绝对不敢RAISE你,TURN倒没什
么错,不过你已经不够钱把对家PUSH OUT 了。

30
thinks
limped

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: OK,几牌俺自己的牌吧,其实没什么精彩之处。
: 1) AJs,LP, raise to $15, 2 limp callers.
: flop: Jc5s6s, both check to me, bet $15 (打得有问题),MP check raises to $30
: ,i call, the other guy folds.
: turn: Td or some blank. MP bets $30 (interesting), i shove $$110, he thinks
: for a while and calls with As3s.
: river: 4s, i got wiped out.
: i ask him what if i come on top on flop, he says still he'd call most of
: time with two cards coming.
: 2) re-load $200, a few hands later, pick up QQ at button, $20 into a limped

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
13
都是大脑缺氧之作,包涵了,呵呵。
昨天的牌总体绝对是A+了,除了这把不算大的,其他都在恰当时候站在了赢的一边,而
且恰恰比对手强那么一点点,这种运气是可遇而不可求的。
可是打得那么烂,该出手没出手,浪费了很多牌,都经不起推敲。
运气好时,鱼多时,咋整可以赢钱,掩盖问题,运气稍微正常点,这就是一个大坑!

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: AJ这牌打得有点问题,FLOP BET得太小了,BET 35 对家绝对不敢RAISE你,TURN倒没什
: 么错,不过你已经不够钱把对家PUSH OUT 了。
:
: 30
: thinks
: limped

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
14
打了一晚上,打错几手牌倒也不是什么大事,关键不要犯大错就行了,像BLUFF把整个
STACK搭进去的,该FOLD没FOLD的这种就比较严重。你这种少BET一个STREET的也还好。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 都是大脑缺氧之作,包涵了,呵呵。
: 昨天的牌总体绝对是A+了,除了这把不算大的,其他都在恰当时候站在了赢的一边,而
: 且恰恰比对手强那么一点点,这种运气是可遇而不可求的。
: 可是打得那么烂,该出手没出手,浪费了很多牌,都经不起推敲。
: 运气好时,鱼多时,咋整可以赢钱,掩盖问题,运气稍微正常点,这就是一个大坑!

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
15
如果一晚上下来的牌,能有七成满意,也就罢了。
可回家一想,TNND,全靠几把傻子牌,也没逮着大鱼,毛病一堆,比较郁闷。



【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 打了一晚上,打错几手牌倒也不是什么大事,关键不要犯大错就行了,像BLUFF把整个
: STACK搭进去的,该FOLD没FOLD的这种就比较严重。你这种少BET一个STREET的也还好。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
16
知足了,总比输钱好。不过我也认为一个SESSION能打7分算不错了。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 如果一晚上下来的牌,能有七成满意,也就罢了。
: 可回家一想,TNND,全靠几把傻子牌,也没逮着大鱼,毛病一堆,比较郁闷。
:
: 。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
17
这不想跳出这个运气好赢钱,运气差填坑的低级轮回么?呵呵。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 知足了,总比输钱好。不过我也认为一个SESSION能打7分算不错了。
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
18
没关系,到时去VEGAS好好发挥一下。俺现在是磨刀霍霍向猪羊,准备到时去VEGAS好好
玩一下,那里鱼多。不过现在感觉有点快等不及了,天天倒计时。俺的主要战场定在
VANETIEN,很喜欢那里。

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 这不想跳出这个运气好赢钱,运气差填坑的低级轮回么?呵呵。
w********1
发帖数: 1414
19
带我去吧?我不认路。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 没关系,到时去VEGAS好好发挥一下。俺现在是磨刀霍霍向猪羊,准备到时去VEGAS好好
: 玩一下,那里鱼多。不过现在感觉有点快等不及了,天天倒计时。俺的主要战场定在
: VANETIEN,很喜欢那里。

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
20
这次去的话,是俺第9次去LV了,最前面几次还不会打牌。
数下来,俺打过的LV赌场有mirage, ballys, flamigo, mgm, excalibur. MGM的poker
room稍微大一点,其他的都很小,3,5张桌子,还比不了俺们现在东部的规模,这次去
打算再每天玩一家不同的,纯找乐子。
harrahs因为就住那,算主场了,虽然看起来也是个小poker room,但晚上哥几个要意
犹未尽的话,估计耗那的零散时间不少。
俺也是盼望中,未来这几周还不算忙,应该好混过去,呵呵。
养精蓄锐是最重要的,哪怕只是去玩,很多人白天辛辛苦苦赢点钱,晚上一昏头就搭回
去了,然后tilt,结果挖出个东非大裂谷。
比如,俺现在该睡觉去乐。

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 没关系,到时去VEGAS好好发挥一下。俺现在是磨刀霍霍向猪羊,准备到时去VEGAS好好
: 玩一下,那里鱼多。不过现在感觉有点快等不及了,天天倒计时。俺的主要战场定在
: VANETIEN,很喜欢那里。

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s*********r
发帖数: 4210
21
小也有小的好处,我在Monte还是不败的呢。

poker

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 这次去的话,是俺第9次去LV了,最前面几次还不会打牌。
: 数下来,俺打过的LV赌场有mirage, ballys, flamigo, mgm, excalibur. MGM的poker
: room稍微大一点,其他的都很小,3,5张桌子,还比不了俺们现在东部的规模,这次去
: 打算再每天玩一家不同的,纯找乐子。
: harrahs因为就住那,算主场了,虽然看起来也是个小poker room,但晚上哥几个要意
: 犹未尽的话,估计耗那的零散时间不少。
: 俺也是盼望中,未来这几周还不算忙,应该好混过去,呵呵。
: 养精蓄锐是最重要的,哪怕只是去玩,很多人白天辛辛苦苦赢点钱,晚上一昏头就搭回
: 去了,然后tilt,结果挖出个东非大裂谷。
: 比如,俺现在该睡觉去乐。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
22
好像这些地方我都去过,我可能星期三晚上就在HARRAHS玩了,懒得跑了,到时你可别
和我坐一桌啊,我太AGGRESSIVE了,老是RAISE,很难看到FLOP的,呵呵。。。
除了VANETIEN,到时再去BALLAGIO看看,主要是看看我的偶像DWAN在不在,还有一个
2P2上的高手,看看自己运气好不好,希望可以见到那两位,合个影也好,不过怕自己
到时没勇气。

poker

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 这次去的话,是俺第9次去LV了,最前面几次还不会打牌。
: 数下来,俺打过的LV赌场有mirage, ballys, flamigo, mgm, excalibur. MGM的poker
: room稍微大一点,其他的都很小,3,5张桌子,还比不了俺们现在东部的规模,这次去
: 打算再每天玩一家不同的,纯找乐子。
: harrahs因为就住那,算主场了,虽然看起来也是个小poker room,但晚上哥几个要意
: 犹未尽的话,估计耗那的零散时间不少。
: 俺也是盼望中,未来这几周还不算忙,应该好混过去,呵呵。
: 养精蓄锐是最重要的,哪怕只是去玩,很多人白天辛辛苦苦赢点钱,晚上一昏头就搭回
: 去了,然后tilt,结果挖出个东非大裂谷。
: 比如,俺现在该睡觉去乐。

g**s
发帖数: 1114
23
for 1/2 game, 一路赢到$2700/. Kao, this is pretty sick... good run...

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 象俺这样的业余选手的致命之处就是想赢怕输,情况稍微一复杂就脑子短路,其实打错
: 不要紧,要紧的是缺乏连贯的思路,就象下棋,看不到几步,先将一军再说的感觉。
: 俺一般double up以后就偏于保守,经常还cash out再说,唯一一次疯掉,还是因为牌
: 太顺,乱来乱有理,没功夫跑路,一路赢到$2700。绝大多数时候都是不死不活的耗着
: 或者填大坑。
: 俺这样的要赢钱,纯粹指望还有更差的,此外,拼谁能半夜不缺氧,呵呵。

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
24
I've seen a guy (a young Korean) who won 5000$ in one session at a 1-3NL game
. He won over 10000$ in that week. He was fearless. He bet 300 with 7 high
many times and he likes to show his bluff to the table. That's actually how
he won all the money, because nobody believed him. Even the biggest nit
called his preflop all in with only 10 J when he actually had KK. He kept
telling me that it is good to show people his bluff because everyone would
pay him off when he actually has a hand, which is so true.He also told me
that he once won 3500$ and 2800$ or something like that several times. It
was every hard to play a good maniac like him. You never know what he had.
He also rarely bet less than 100 no matter what he had, so you can't really
practice pot control when playing against him. I went all in twice with him.
I had A Q at EP. I (1300$) raised to 18 pre, and MP (600$) called. He at LP
(900$) also called. Flop A Q 6 with two diamonds. I checked, MP bet 45, and
he called. I called. I knew MP was on flush draw and he likes to chase
draws. I planned to push on the turn. I didn't worried about the crazy Korean
at all. Turn was blank. I checked again, MP checked, He bet 250$. I pushed
all in since I didn't think he had a better hand. He bet top pair the same
way all the time, and I really didn't want MP to draw on me. MP almost
called, but he folded anyway because it was too much to call. The Korean
called and showed his 66. He won the pot, and I was devastated. MP would've won the pot with his nut flush on the river if he called. A really
good TAG player on the table kept telling me that I didn't do anything wrong
. He said he would've done the same thing with that hand against that guy.I
actually felt much better after his comfort. I then worked my stack up to
1200, and then I went all in again with that maniac again with QQ on the
flop of 3 4 5. I raised to 20 preflop at MP. EP called, and he at LP called.
EP bet 25, I called, and he raised to 200. EP folded, and I went all in
with 1200. He had 850 and he called. He had 4 5. Turn was a 3, and river was
a 4. I then was totally on tilt. Lost all of my chips (200 buy-in plus my 1700
winning). It was the most painful session I've ever had. The QQ hand was a
huge mistake. I was too tired at that time and wasn't playing my best game.
Should've quit when I had almost 2000 chips or before the maniac joined in
our table. Well,I learned too many lessons the hard way.

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: for 1/2 game, 一路赢到$2700/. Kao, this is pretty sick... good run...
p****r
发帖数: 9164
25
5000$ in 1-3 session? with 300 max buyin? that is really unreal! that is
like 17buyin winning in live game. Even he played 25 hand/hour for 10 hours,
only 250hand. Saw somebody have 6k stack in 2-4 rush, but that is rush
poker, playing 250hand/h and they have played so many hours with super LAG
style. It is only 15buyin stack.
I played so many sessions of 2-5 NL no max buyin , usually buy in 2-3k.
The biggest winning day so far in 2-5 NL is around 3.5k.
【 在 lziueng (追梦的人) 的大作中提到: 】
game
how
really
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
26
Yeah, it was 1-3NL with 300 max buyin. That was the biggest win I've ever
heard of. I wasn't playing with him in that session. I was playing with him
the session before that. When I came back one day later, everyone (dealers,
players) was talking about his big win. Later he came back to the poker room
and confirmed that to me. He said his stack was so huge that he didn't have
space to put his cards. It was ridiculous. I then asked him if he won over
10000 in the last few days, and he said yes. He was visiting his family in
town and he only stayed there for 10 days.

is
hours,

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 5000$ in 1-3 session? with 300 max buyin? that is really unreal! that is
: like 17buyin winning in live game. Even he played 25 hand/hour for 10 hours,
: only 250hand. Saw somebody have 6k stack in 2-4 rush, but that is rush
: poker, playing 250hand/h and they have played so many hours with super LAG
: style. It is only 15buyin stack.
: I played so many sessions of 2-5 NL no max buyin , usually buy in 2-3k.
: The biggest winning day so far in 2-5 NL is around 3.5k.
: 【 在 lziueng (追梦的人) 的大作中提到: 】
: game
: how

l*****g
发帖数: 1128
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that he did play 30 hours straight for that
session, but it is still amazing.

is
hours,

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: 5000$ in 1-3 session? with 300 max buyin? that is really unreal! that is
: like 17buyin winning in live game. Even he played 25 hand/hour for 10 hours,
: only 250hand. Saw somebody have 6k stack in 2-4 rush, but that is rush
: poker, playing 250hand/h and they have played so many hours with super LAG
: style. It is only 15buyin stack.
: I played so many sessions of 2-5 NL no max buyin , usually buy in 2-3k.
: The biggest winning day so far in 2-5 NL is around 3.5k.
: 【 在 lziueng (追梦的人) 的大作中提到: 】
: game
: how

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
28
if we play long enough, we all will have such donk sessions one way or
another.
i sit down with $200 (my typical buy-in size), double up through an old
tight guy who simply can't raise big enough with AA or lay down on river
when i hit top two pair with my TJs.
then it's a non-stop, i double up again with an even bigger stack, flop two
pair river boat vs. a lower boat (he has me till then).
then i wonder if i should cash out my 1K+ stack and come back to cool down..
. before i actually stand up, this poor new guy sits down and gets wiped out
TWICE in a row by me. first he flops top set Qs while i flop baby flush,
the next hand his AA gets cracked by my baby flush again on the river. he is
so disgusted after losing $600 in the first 2 hands.
i keep running hot and exchanging my red stacks to green and black chips for
other ppl.
by the time my LD comes to grab me, i realize my stack is 2700 in only 5
hours.
yeah, one of those few "good" times.

【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: for 1/2 game, 一路赢到$2700/. Kao, this is pretty sick... good run...
p****r
发帖数: 9164
29
You could keep rolling man. :) You could win another 2.7k. hehe. when you are
running hot, your image is so good and everybody is scared to play with you
and give you a lot of bluff opportunity.

two
..
out

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: if we play long enough, we all will have such donk sessions one way or
: another.
: i sit down with $200 (my typical buy-in size), double up through an old
: tight guy who simply can't raise big enough with AA or lay down on river
: when i hit top two pair with my TJs.
: then it's a non-stop, i double up again with an even bigger stack, flop two
: pair river boat vs. a lower boat (he has me till then).
: then i wonder if i should cash out my 1K+ stack and come back to cool down..
: . before i actually stand up, this poor new guy sits down and gets wiped out
: TWICE in a row by me. first he flops top set Qs while i flop baby flush,

G********r
发帖数: 666
30
That's what I like to do when I run good, except that I haven't had a
meaningful good run for months.... lol

you are
you

【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: You could keep rolling man. :) You could win another 2.7k. hehe. when you are
: running hot, your image is so good and everybody is scared to play with you
: and give you a lot of bluff opportunity.
:
: two
: ..
: out

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