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TexasHoldem版 - 讨论下这手牌
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话题: hero话题: villain话题: turn话题: flop话题: bet
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n***a
发帖数: 274
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hero: Ac3c BB ($270), very tight/solid player ep (> $270) raised to $7 (a
low raise at the table), 4 callers including hero.
flop: AsTs3s
hero: $25 to a $35 pot, villain call after long deliberation, others folded.
turn: 5c
hero check, villain delayed bet $75 to a $81 pot, hero delayed call
river: Js
hero check, villain check,
villain has? what is his range that represents the turn bet? and should hero
have played differently?
*hero has a image of loose preflop tight after flop with occasional bluff and semi-bluff, minimal showdown, somehow weak, don't think villain is very observant for other details.
villain played 20% of the hands, minimal showdown, never caught bluff, solid*
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
2
to me,好像信息不全,之前有没有历史,tight solid也有很多种的,你的image是什么
,如果是not bad not good tight solid,那换了是我,就fold turn了。因为对方像
是拿着at
n***a
发帖数: 274
3
我当时是把他放在了AK上,如果AT应该会smooth call flop?
不过如果他是AT,那么他就没有spade,那么我river应该shove?
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
4
AK for weak preflop raise -> weak flop call in position -> strong turn
action in position?
same for AT except that preflop is ok now.

【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: 我当时是把他放在了AK上,如果AT应该会smooth call flop?
: 不过如果他是AT,那么他就没有spade,那么我river应该shove?

d*****0
发帖数: 1500
5
你到底有没有看到了他的hand,我觉得象at还有一大原因是他river check behind,
turn上那么strong的一个bet,除了bluff之外,就是觉得你没有flop flush,他觉得领
先了,但是river又来张spade,所以他check behind了。
但是话说回来,他flop flush,然后flop call,turn上开始value同样make sense,所
以说你river的check是对的,鬼知道他会check behind还是bet again。
没有位置的情况下,你只能赢的比原来少,输的比原来多。
此外,有的NIT拿着set也是这么玩,所以我之前问你,有没有他的历史。
l*****g
发帖数: 1128
6
Feel like he had two pairs or small flush. I would continue to bet on the
turn with around 50$ to find out where my hand stood. If got raised on the
turn, then it would be an easy fold. By checking, you had no idea whether
your hand was good or not. Or you could just check on the flop since you
were out of position and the board was kind of scary. As you played, I would
fold on the turn though.
It's nice to see more female ID here, now I don't feel like I am a weird
woman who really likes poker or "gambling" (to other people) any more.
p****r
发帖数: 9164
7
agree. nothing wrong to play a little passive with marignal hand OOP.
top and bottom pair is still quite marignal holding on same suit board
with preflop raise and so many callers.

would

【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: Feel like he had two pairs or small flush. I would continue to bet on the
: turn with around 50$ to find out where my hand stood. If got raised on the
: turn, then it would be an easy fold. By checking, you had no idea whether
: your hand was good or not. Or you could just check on the flop since you
: were out of position and the board was kind of scary. As you played, I would
: fold on the turn though.
: It's nice to see more female ID here, now I don't feel like I am a weird
: woman who really likes poker or "gambling" (to other people) any more.

n***a
发帖数: 274
8
he showed Ad3d,I would argue the middle ground between AK and AT!
I never saw how much he raise preflop on AK, it is a little low but not too out of range for this villain.
In retrospect, I feel his delayed flop call represents a range of AQ, AK, A3
, AT and big flush. He probably doesn't have a big pair based on preflop min
raise, and would fold things like 99c.
I feel other legitimate hand (set or baby flush) would see a reraise on the
flop to charge the draw.
My bet on the flop and check on the turn probably makes him put me on AX,
most likely a decent Xc. A pot size turn bet makes sense if he had AQ, AK, A3 and
AT, but too much for a big flush.
He probably doesn't have a c, otherwise he would not want me out so badly.
so i don't think he's range is ahead when i called the turn. I am thinking now
that he can't call my river shove because most likely he doesn't have a c?
The reason hero checked the turn was because of worries on a made flush trap and also pot control. If I'd bet, how much should I bet, and what's the anticipated reactions for the villain?
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
9
我始终认为,你river如果shove就是turn ur hand into bluff,而你能赶走的比你强
的牌,大多数之前都已经排除了
j**y
发帖数: 7014
10
AJ+,但是没s

folded.
hero

【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: hero: Ac3c BB ($270), very tight/solid player ep (> $270) raised to $7 (a
: low raise at the table), 4 callers including hero.
: flop: AsTs3s
: hero: $25 to a $35 pot, villain call after long deliberation, others folded.
: turn: 5c
: hero check, villain delayed bet $75 to a $81 pot, hero delayed call
: river: Js
: hero check, villain check,
: villain has? what is his range that represents the turn bet? and should hero
: have played differently?

D*A
发帖数: 1169
11
i think this hand, cards just play themselves.
unless someone get a little crazy and push at flop.

folded.
hero

【在 n***a 的大作中提到】
: hero: Ac3c BB ($270), very tight/solid player ep (> $270) raised to $7 (a
: low raise at the table), 4 callers including hero.
: flop: AsTs3s
: hero: $25 to a $35 pot, villain call after long deliberation, others folded.
: turn: 5c
: hero check, villain delayed bet $75 to a $81 pot, hero delayed call
: river: Js
: hero check, villain check,
: villain has? what is his range that represents the turn bet? and should hero
: have played differently?

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