d******u
发帖数: 142 | 1 tournament final table... 9 ppl remaining
blind is 2k/4k + ante 300
I have 90k chip in 4th.
all fold to me at button and I have AJ offsuit.
I raise to 9k and BB (2nd with 140k chip) raise me all in almost instantly.
The table just started so no read at this stage. I raised twice in the last
8-9 hands already and no showdown.
chip count roughly
1st 230k
2nd 140k
3rd 100k
4th 90k
5-8th 80k-50k
9th 20k
Should I call or not? |
d******u
发帖数: 142 | 2 from his body language, I am pretty sure he does not have a-a or k-k. i.e.
something he thinks he is way ahead. |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 22 BB, fold.
AJo is such a trash hand without read. do you believe he pushed you with AT/
A9 or 88?
last
【在 d******u 的大作中提到】
: tournament final table... 9 ppl remaining
: blind is 2k/4k + ante 300
: I have 90k chip in 4th.
: all fold to me at button and I have AJ offsuit.
: I raise to 9k and BB (2nd with 140k chip) raise me all in almost instantly.
: The table just started so no read at this stage. I raised twice in the last
: 8-9 hands already and no showdown.
: chip count roughly
: 1st 230k
: 2nd 140k
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d******u
发帖数: 142 | 4 I actually called and lost to 88 in a coin flip. It is an easy fold in cash
game. The question is, if assuming the probability of being dominated and
blind defending with weaker hand cancels out, whether it is worth going into
a known coin flip at this stage of tournament.
the downside of being eliminated vs upside of 2nd in chip count (almost 2x
of 3rd one) and image of not willing to be bluffed?
The prize structure
1st 3,500
...
5st around 800
...
9th 375
AT/
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 22 BB, fold.
: AJo is such a trash hand without read. do you believe he pushed you with AT/
: A9 or 88?
:
: last
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 5 如果是网上的micro stake tourney，我会fold，原因
1 刚到新桌，情况不明，一般情况下讲，这里应该fold
2 2nd chips leader小盲注，在这里的overshove re－steal你大约20bb，他的range实
在是大于ajo，虽然结果看上去是个coin flip，但是这已经是那最好的50%的可能性了
，即使你前几把非常aggressive，换了你在他的位置，我想用 at- 来做这个overbet
resteal也算是over play了。
3 2BB对于你的stack比例来说还是ok，有个大大曾说过，在奖金分配不平衡的桌子上，
你手中的chips永远比pot里的chips值钱，你完全有机会等待更好的时机去赢回你这里
的损失，而不是冒险赌他overbet bluff。
当然live的魅力在于对手有很多tell，可是黎叔说了，要指望tell来获取information
多数情况下不是那么reliable，呵呵 |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 22bb is too deep for such an at best coin flip situation, even against blind
defenders i guess.
88 or A9s alike is at the bottom of their ranges (since they don't know you
well either). they could easily turn over AQ or JJ+, and you will be way
behind.
cash
into
【在 d******u 的大作中提到】
: I actually called and lost to 88 in a coin flip. It is an easy fold in cash
: game. The question is, if assuming the probability of being dominated and
: blind defending with weaker hand cancels out, whether it is worth going into
: a known coin flip at this stage of tournament.
: the downside of being eliminated vs upside of 2nd in chip count (almost 2x
: of 3rd one) and image of not willing to be bluffed?
: The prize structure
: 1st 3,500
: ...
: 5st around 800
|
p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 7 不怕不怕，tournament就是比谁能suck out， get in when behind是routine
blind
you
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 22bb is too deep for such an at best coin flip situation, even against blind
: defenders i guess.
: 88 or A9s alike is at the bottom of their ranges (since they don't know you
: well either). they could easily turn over AQ or JJ+, and you will be way
: behind.
:
: cash
: into
|
d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 routine是因为commit chips是看range的，你总有unlucky的时候撞倒对手range以上的
monster，所以貌似underdog然后运气好可以suckout，别人也一样
但是坚决反对自杀shove
赶紧把黎叔拖出去办了 |
c****1
发帖数: 457 | 9 非常同意，反对明知behind又没odd的情况下，抱着侥幸的心理去call。
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: routine是因为commit chips是看range的，你总有unlucky的时候撞倒对手range以上的
: monster，所以貌似underdog然后运气好可以suckout，别人也一样
: 但是坚决反对自杀shove
: 赶紧把黎叔拖出去办了
|
d******u
发帖数: 142 | 10 make sense. maybe I have too much ego and try too hard not to be overplayed
here.
one more hand..
online, heads-up
I have 400k vs 700k, blind 12k-25k + 2.5k ante
Dealt AcKd, raise to 50k, getting called.
Flop Kc8c2c...
Opp lead 50k bet, I call.
turn and river blank.
Opp bet three streets and I just called.
turns out he has a made flush and I am crippled.
Question:
At the flop, call or raise? which one is a better play in HU case? I will
raise if there is no flush draw. This one I am not very sure. of course it
does not change the result.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 非常同意，反对明知behind又没odd的情况下，抱着侥幸的心理去call。
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p******e
发帖数: 327 | 11 I'll definitely raise on flop.
If my ace is not a club, I'll probably call the flop and call/fold on turn
depends on his move.
overplayed
【在 d******u 的大作中提到】
: make sense. maybe I have too much ego and try too hard not to be overplayed
: here.
: one more hand..
: online, heads-up
: I have 400k vs 700k, blind 12k-25k + 2.5k ante
: Dealt AcKd, raise to 50k, getting called.
: Flop Kc8c2c...
: Opp lead 50k bet, I call.
: turn and river blank.
: Opp bet three streets and I just called.
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