r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 1 比较一下两种super user到底哪种更强
假设game是nolimit holdem
A:可以看见对手底牌
B:看不到对手底牌，不过提前知道桌面所有公共牌
game 1: 两个人不知道互相的能力，都假设对手不作弊
game 2: 两个人知道互相的能力
在两个牌局中，哪方更强？ |
g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 2 I will take B in Game 1 and Game 2. can be very aggressive for all draw
before river. |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 A definitely can yield better profit. |
L****n
发帖数: 490 | 4 definitely B. If they play heads up, B wins for sure |
d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 Not necessarily trying to answer which one is stronger. But your preference shows a little whether you like playing the cards just by the strength of the cards itself or playing the cards vs your opponents cards.. lol.
Game 2 would be really fun because there will be a lot of meta game going on. like B can bluff flush draw even if he knows that flush card will not come.. lol. |
t********t
发帖数: 5415 | |
g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 8 This could be developed to a new game. And you can play with your friends.
Player A and B, Game is NL HU. B is always the dealer as he deals the cards.
When B deals the cards out,
he deals his own 2 cards face up on the table. A can see B's cards as they
are on the table but B could not see A's as they are in A's hand.
B can continue deal the flop/turn/river as his hole cards. Then they play NL
HU as usual.
B has huge advantage for sure.
preference shows a little whether you like playing the cards just by the
strength of the cards itself or playing the cards vs your opponents cards..
lol.
on. like B can bluff flush draw even if he knows that flush card will not
come.. lol.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Not necessarily trying to answer which one is stronger. But your preference shows a little whether you like playing the cards just by the strength of the cards itself or playing the cards vs your opponents cards.. lol.
: Game 2 would be really fun because there will be a lot of meta game going on. like B can bluff flush draw even if he knows that flush card will not come.. lol.
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 9 To make it more fair, A and B can take turn as the dealer so each plays in a
different role in the game.
cards.
NL
.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: This could be developed to a new game. And you can play with your friends.
: Player A and B, Game is NL HU. B is always the dealer as he deals the cards.
: When B deals the cards out,
: he deals his own 2 cards face up on the table. A can see B's cards as they
: are on the table but B could not see A's as they are in A's hand.
: B can continue deal the flop/turn/river as his hole cards. Then they play NL
: HU as usual.
: B has huge advantage for sure.
:
: preference shows a little whether you like playing the cards just by the
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 10 game1假设都不知道，game2假设都知道
【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: 两个人都知道对方是super user不？
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 A is way much better, you can:
1) maximize your winnings by choosing bet sizes much better according to his
hand strength/draws. it's NOT about ranges any more, just about 1 single
face up hand, lol;
2) you can't be bluffed, and can make hero calls any time. this is how the
AB cheater was caught, he got toooo greedy to call some pro's big river
bluff with T high only, no pair no nothing;
3) you won't pay off your opponent at all, not a penny vs. his real hands,
so you minimize a lot of your losses.
for B, even you know what will happen on the board, you still need his
"co-operation" (i.e., he has a good hand too) to win.
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 比较一下两种super user到底哪种更强
: 假设game是nolimit holdem
: A:可以看见对手底牌
: B:看不到对手底牌，不过提前知道桌面所有公共牌
: game 1: 两个人不知道互相的能力，都假设对手不作弊
: game 2: 两个人知道互相的能力
: 在两个牌局中，哪方更强？
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 for game 1, A definitely has an edge if he knows what he is doing.
For game 2, it is an entire different game. Whoever use their edge better
will win. both side has a chance. |
T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 13 tournament and cash will be totally different.
if i play tournament, i rather be player A, as in tournament i can get in as
many pot as i can because i know what the others have and a lot of time i
can buy the pot and accumulate chips.
player B is suited for cash game, because he has a good idea if his hand is
strong on the river or not, so he can patiently wait for spots that his hand
is close to nuts by tje river and get all his money in before river. evan
you can see his holecard, you still gonna pay him off because he know what
is coming.
player B will less powerful in tournament because have nuts or close to nuts
ate hard to come by. Also in tournament a lot of hand is decided preflop,
even you know all cards coming, you won't know of all those catds hit your
opponents or not.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: for game 1, A definitely has an edge if he knows what he is doing.
: For game 2, it is an entire different game. Whoever use their edge better
: will win. both side has a chance.
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