f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 1 damn, must have won at least $3K+ tonight... read like god. | s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 2 I SEE HE ON 7/8 TABLE AND AT THE TIME I CHECK ALLL THE TABLES HAVE HIMSELF.
WILL CHECK NEXT TIME. | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 3 he has very good read and a lot of patience.
normally he's like waiting for rabbits at the tree, lol, some ppl play with
him for 2/4 or 3/6NL at most.
one 3/6NL HU table i watched briefly yesterday, he got about $1300 and
another guy $1500... he just wiped out the guy like god. it went through
like small punches here and there, let the guy lose patience, then a big
punch... then small punches... then bait ... then one final punch, all over.
another 3/6NL HU, he wiped out a guy for about $600. th
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】 : I SEE HE ON 7/8 TABLE AND AT THE TIME I CHECK ALLL THE TABLES HAVE HIMSELF. : WILL CHECK NEXT TIME.
| f*f 发帖数: 121 | 4 lol.. I don't remember much about the stuff you saw, I was concentrate on
one 2/4 table (maybe not on fulltilt, can't quite remember) where we were
400bb deep for a while, and opponent was very aggressive, lots of raise/
reraise after flop, he was a thinking player, a lot of stuff to consider in
that match. I quit all tables soon after I was done with that match (I lost
a few buyin to him before, after this match, I am up a few buyin ^_^) | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 5 you play HU like boxing, which you control the pace very well.
and a lot of hands, i have absolutely no idea where you stand, until the
showdown, which actually makes me see the huge skill difference, and with a
little sigh, because i guess i can at least read some other games better.
in
lost
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】 : lol.. I don't remember much about the stuff you saw, I was concentrate on : one 2/4 table (maybe not on fulltilt, can't quite remember) where we were : 400bb deep for a while, and opponent was very aggressive, lots of raise/ : reraise after flop, he was a thinking player, a lot of stuff to consider in : that match. I quit all tables soon after I was done with that match (I lost : a few buyin to him before, after this match, I am up a few buyin ^_^)
| s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 6 Let's have HU tourey once a while. | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 7 is there 10c 25c HU cash game? I will play you if you want.
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】 : Let's have HU tourey once a while.
| y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 8 lol
you will lose your entire bankroll. :)
Plus, 10c/25c Hu 's rake is too high, no one can benefit from the game.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : is there 10c 25c HU cash game? I will play you if you want.
| s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 9 I can play HU. Prefer tourney format so the rake is limited.
I just start to try out lately. | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 10 lose my entire bank roll to summerbrook or rake?
I doubt either one of them will happen.
Besides, I never blame rake when I can not win. I blame myself not to have
enough edge.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】 : lol : you will lose your entire bankroll. :) : Plus, 10c/25c Hu 's rake is too high, no one can benefit from the game.
| | | s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 11 I believe he means loosing to me. hahaha
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : lose my entire bank roll to summerbrook or rake? : I doubt either one of them will happen. : Besides, I never blame rake when I can not win. I blame myself not to have : enough edge.
| W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 12 This is indeed very funny.
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】 : I believe he means loosing to me. hahaha
| y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 13 the rake is definitely too high. If you play, winner will get 20 bucks, but
loser will cost 100 bucks, the difference of cost is the rake.
2-2.5 hours of 2 tabling means 100 $ rake. I do not think you can beat the
rake.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : lose my entire bank roll to summerbrook or rake? : I doubt either one of them will happen. : Besides, I never blame rake when I can not win. I blame myself not to have : enough edge.
| f*f 发帖数: 121 | 14 rake at 50nl hu is about 10bb/100, judge for yourself if you can beat it,
lower stake would have even bigger rake%. Best player (very very best
player, I mean durrrr caliber player, although against very bad player,
someone like me could probably win just as effective as durrrr would be) can
beat very bad opponent for maybe 50bb/100 without considering rake. | y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 15 you are right.
But one problem is that those fishes will not play very long, they will quit
after 1 or 2 buyin lossees, the session is very very short.
However, if you encounter a regular, you will play a ton of hands,
eventually both of you will lose money or barely win.
My experience is that you need play very very loose and aggressive in
position, however, need play tight and passive out of position(A5o-a3o, 22-
55 is not very good defensive hands.) One leak of me is that I like to play tight
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】 : rake at 50nl hu is about 10bb/100, judge for yourself if you can beat it, : lower stake would have even bigger rake%. Best player (very very best : player, I mean durrrr caliber player, although against very bad player, : someone like me could probably win just as effective as durrrr would be) can : beat very bad opponent for maybe 50bb/100 without considering rake.
| L****n 发帖数: 490 | 16 fcf 大牛人,where do you start heads up cash game?
It seems there is no good place to practice heads up cash game. Lacking of
experience and 10bb/100 rake make it really expensive to learn the game. | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 17 Microstake cash game all have heavy rakes. it is true for FR too. Playing
NL 25. Everyweek we got rackback 40$ at least. 22% rack back, so we got raked 181$
every week. that is at least 3bb/100 hand. Of course you get to fold a lot
of hands, if your vpip is 16 8, so you in fact only play 1/8th of the hands.
HU, you are playing almost every hand or at least 50% of the hands? so if
you think about it, 10bb/100hand is really not too much worse than FR..
can
【在 f*f 的大作中提到】 : rake at 50nl hu is about 10bb/100, judge for yourself if you can beat it, : lower stake would have even bigger rake%. Best player (very very best : player, I mean durrrr caliber player, although against very bad player, : someone like me could probably win just as effective as durrrr would be) can : beat very bad opponent for maybe 50bb/100 without considering rake.
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 18 FTP made a right decision to give addicted me rakeback after struggling back
and forth, because i told them last year i'd not play any cash game
otherwise.
yesterday alone, i generated $87 in rake for them during up down up down up
swings, lol.
raked 181$
lot
hands.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : Microstake cash game all have heavy rakes. it is true for FR too. Playing : NL 25. Everyweek we got rackback 40$ at least. 22% rack back, so we got raked 181$ : every week. that is at least 3bb/100 hand. Of course you get to fold a lot : of hands, if your vpip is 16 8, so you in fact only play 1/8th of the hands. : HU, you are playing almost every hand or at least 50% of the hands? so if : you think about it, 10bb/100hand is really not too much worse than FR.. : : can
| y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 19 PS is more honest. They have no 50NL HU cash games, since the rake is too
high.
back
up
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : FTP made a right decision to give addicted me rakeback after struggling back : and forth, because i told them last year i'd not play any cash game : otherwise. : yesterday alone, i generated $87 in rake for them during up down up down up : swings, lol. : : raked 181$ : lot : hands.
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