l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 1 Should I ever fold AA on this kind of flop with 1 all in and another player
behind me? Really not sure whether I played this hand right or not.
Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
Seat 8: lilysillycat ($13.16)
Seat 9: bebak ($3.89)
s080056 posts the small blind |
h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 2 For the reraiser:
1. He doesn't seem to have a flush draw since that would be too strong a
move for a non nut flush draw.
2. He may not have a set because he would slow play it (if he has bottom set
, he may just call).
3. It seems he has two-pair and tries to drive away flush draw. But he
called your preflop raise. K9s? maybe.
4. He could just have AK. It's possible..
The first raiser could have anything from AK to flush draw (Kc and Qc/Jc) to
set.
So at flop you can beat AK and one potential f
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: Should I ever fold AA on this kind of flop with 1 all in and another player
: behind me? Really not sure whether I played this hand right or not.
: Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
: Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
: Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
: Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
: Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
: Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
: Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
: Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 3 最多是个flush draw加top pair，call！
player
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: Should I ever fold AA on this kind of flop with 1 all in and another player
: behind me? Really not sure whether I played this hand right or not.
: Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
: Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
: Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
: Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
: Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
: Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
: Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
: Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 4 I didnt pay enough attention to the stack size. Need to take notice of that
in the furture.
I felt that one of them have at least top pair. I"m not scared of that one
. but the other one definitly had a hand that is better than top pair which
means it beats my hand as the only hand I could beat is top pair.
my 2/3 pot raise probably seemed weak and let them both believe that I was
on a flush draw. so they both got aggressive to drive me out of the pot.
so I dont think either of them wer
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: For the reraiser:
: 1. He doesn't seem to have a flush draw since that would be too strong a
: move for a non nut flush draw.
: 2. He may not have a set because he would slow play it (if he has bottom set
: , he may just call).
: 3. It seems he has two-pair and tries to drive away flush draw. But he
: called your preflop raise. K9s? maybe.
: 4. He could just have AK. It's possible..
: The first raiser could have anything from AK to flush draw (Kc and Qc/Jc) to
: set.
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 5 also I'm wondering whether I have the odd to call no matter what. I have
not read up on this yet but it happens often. sometimes I have the right
pot odds to call on the river but I feel that I'm beaten already. should I
still call to look up the cards. :(
set
to
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: For the reraiser:
: 1. He doesn't seem to have a flush draw since that would be too strong a
: move for a non nut flush draw.
: 2. He may not have a set because he would slow play it (if he has bottom set
: , he may just call).
: 3. It seems he has two-pair and tries to drive away flush draw. But he
: called your preflop raise. K9s? maybe.
: 4. He could just have AK. It's possible..
: The first raiser could have anything from AK to flush draw (Kc and Qc/Jc) to
: set.
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | |
I****r
发帖数: 795 | 7 blind odds 87%. I will call |
k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 8 I would fold. It was not about top pair K any more.
player
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: Should I ever fold AA on this kind of flop with 1 all in and another player
: behind me? Really not sure whether I played this hand right or not.
: Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
: Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
: Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
: Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
: Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
: Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
: Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
: Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 actual hands are misleading, hehe, it's all about who makes the bet...
yeah, in common sense, when ppl make such a big bet (relative to pot), they'
re not worried about Kx one pair hand at all, so even AA is just one level
up.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: I would fold. It was not about top pair K any more.
:
: player
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 10 Maybe I am wrong,
bebak bet too much, more like a flush/straight draw,
Pete Philly had AK.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: I would fold. It was not about top pair K any more.
:
: player
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | |
l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 12 bebak showed a pair of 99 and floped a set. Pete Philly had AK off with Ac
to the nut flush draw.
is it always a 100% fold here with a flush draw with no pot odds and no
implied odds? I know bebak is pot commited and basically has to go to all
in no matter what.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: Maybe I am wrong,
: bebak bet too much, more like a flush/straight draw,
: Pete Philly had AK.
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 13 If you mentioned that bebak is a normal player (as long as not a reckless
player), I would definitly fold here. Your only chance was that bebak
gambled here, bluffing with a flush/straight draw. If he lost, it was not a
big deal since his position was the smallest. And keeping playing his tine
stack was kind of embarrassing to him.
If not this case, you would lose.
Ac
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: bebak showed a pair of 99 and floped a set. Pete Philly had AK off with Ac
: to the nut flush draw.
: is it always a 100% fold here with a flush draw with no pot odds and no
: implied odds? I know bebak is pot commited and basically has to go to all
: in no matter what.
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 14 你不是有Ac么？
Ac
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: bebak showed a pair of 99 and floped a set. Pete Philly had AK off with Ac
: to the nut flush draw.
: is it always a 100% fold here with a flush draw with no pot odds and no
: implied odds? I know bebak is pot commited and basically has to go to all
: in no matter what.
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 15 you are right. I did have the Ac. he only had top pair top kicker. :)
Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
Seat 8: lilysillycat ($13.16)
Seat 9: bebak ($3.89)
s080056 posts the small blind of $0.05
Bluepistons posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: 你不是有Ac么？
:
: Ac
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 16 I did worry about the first raiser more in your case because he may have set
rather than flush draw. But since you have Ac, and the re-raiser could have
AK or K9, I think you can try to make a call here to win the side pot. pot
odds justifies the call.
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: you are right. I did have the Ac. he only had top pair top kicker. :)
: Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
: Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
: Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
: Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
: Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
: Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
: Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
: Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
: Seat 8: lilysillycat ($13.16)
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 17 you are right. I really should read the hands more carefully. I only
recently start to read hands. hope to get more input from you on more
hander later on. ;)
set
have
pot
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: I did worry about the first raiser more in your case because he may have set
: rather than flush draw. But since you have Ac, and the re-raiser could have
: AK or K9, I think you can try to make a call here to win the side pot. pot
: odds justifies the call.
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p********a
发帖数: 6437 | 18 c'mon, 这还read啥，
这有200次， 你就200次allin， 怎么可能fold。
这还是块儿八毛的， 就在这儿拼老命读来猜去， 加入上个1000￥buyin锦标赛， 那不
得油浸灯枯头发掉光？
aa如果没碰上flop pair（偶尔有人有set）或者3张同花， 想来想去都是白想。
这就是给了好牌却赢不大。 |
k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 19 If all in before flop, you are right, 这有200次， 你就200次allin.
【在 p********a 的大作中提到】
: c'mon, 这还read啥，
: 这有200次， 你就200次allin， 怎么可能fold。
: 这还是块儿八毛的， 就在这儿拼老命读来猜去， 加入上个1000￥buyin锦标赛， 那不
: 得油浸灯枯头发掉光？
: aa如果没碰上flop pair（偶尔有人有set）或者3张同花， 想来想去都是白想。
: 这就是给了好牌却赢不大。
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J*******n
发帖数: 511 | |
w********t
发帖数: 18315 | 21 我觉得他可能是top pair and draw flush，或者是44，99matched了
可我拿了AA，一般除非四张同花在桌上，或者2对在桌上，我是不看牌不死心的，呵呵
而且他的钱也就是3。89，你有13刀多了
所以我肯定跟
player
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: Should I ever fold AA on this kind of flop with 1 all in and another player
: behind me? Really not sure whether I played this hand right or not.
: Full Tilt Poker Game #14577053931: Table La Jolla - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit
: Hold'em - 1:45:29 ET - 2009/09/09
: Seat 1: MrBill222 ($4.56)
: Seat 2: SirSmiles ($6.70)
: Seat 3: Pete Philly ($10.17)
: Seat 4: Golfer Jack ($12.92)
: Seat 6: s080056 ($5.58)
: Seat 7: Bluepistons ($12.59)
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