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TexasHoldem版 - fold, call or shove?
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670
1
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 29, 05:16:46 ET 2009
Table Cornflower (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: PocketDonkeys08 ( $26.05 USD )
Seat 2: skundarbeg ( $12.80 USD )
Seat 3: miskk ( $9.30 USD )
Seat 4: JaynJenny ( $48.70 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $29.90 USD )
Seat 6: laura1991 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 7: jimjack111 ( $4.40 USD )
Seat 8: Dralix ( $27.90 USD )
Seat 9: ombre18 ( $4.30 USD )
miskk posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
JaynJenny posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down
p*******p
发帖数: 13670
2
since I raise utg and he didn't reraise, after raise, I put him on JJ (or TT
)
or Two over cards with spade (AKs,AQs, or maybe JTs,108s is also possible)
and pocket 5 (pocket 9 or 7 is possible but not very probable)

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 29, 05:16:46 ET 2009
: Table Cornflower (Real Money)
: Seat 2 is the button
: Seat 1: PocketDonkeys08 ( $26.05 USD )
: Seat 2: skundarbeg ( $12.80 USD )
: Seat 3: miskk ( $9.30 USD )
: Seat 4: JaynJenny ( $48.70 USD )
: Seat 5: Hero ( $29.90 USD )
: Seat 6: laura1991 ( $25.00 USD )
: Seat 7: jimjack111 ( $4.40 USD )

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
3
all-in now.
his bet size is too much, not really like a set, more like a TT-QQ hand (
wait to see a low flop). strong is weak, weak is strong.
your flop bet is bigger than normal, and he raises 4x:
1) he could put you on a naked c-bet with two high. if so, he's telling you
to go out NOW, no more catch-up;
2) you could have an over pair, or A9 hand, but he's happy with winning
right here.
there's no turn play for you any more, it's either shove or fold here on
flop.

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 29, 05:16:46 ET 2009
: Table Cornflower (Real Money)
: Seat 2 is the button
: Seat 1: PocketDonkeys08 ( $26.05 USD )
: Seat 2: skundarbeg ( $12.80 USD )
: Seat 3: miskk ( $9.30 USD )
: Seat 4: JaynJenny ( $48.70 USD )
: Seat 5: Hero ( $29.90 USD )
: Seat 6: laura1991 ( $25.00 USD )
: Seat 7: jimjack111 ( $4.40 USD )

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
4
in his eyes, what could you have?
1) AK, AQ alike, a naked c-bet, then his raise (with any two) could get you
to fold here;
2) over pair, unless it's a dominant one, like you have JJ, he has AJ (J is
useless), he still has plenty of outs with AQ/AK;
3) set? your bet is a little too big, it's possible but not likely;
4) you're not happy with two spades, and want to finish it here, so it makes
his hand like AsKs, Ts8s very playable;
5) two pair, actually it's pretty hidden for your pre-flop action

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: since I raise utg and he didn't reraise, after raise, I put him on JJ (or TT
: )
: or Two over cards with spade (AKs,AQs, or maybe JTs,108s is also possible)
: and pocket 5 (pocket 9 or 7 is possible but not very probable)

d**x
发帖数: 1934
5
I will all-in.... unless he hit set...
maybe this is my problem that I usually dont fold top 2 pairs...haha

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 29, 05:16:46 ET 2009
: Table Cornflower (Real Money)
: Seat 2 is the button
: Seat 1: PocketDonkeys08 ( $26.05 USD )
: Seat 2: skundarbeg ( $12.80 USD )
: Seat 3: miskk ( $9.30 USD )
: Seat 4: JaynJenny ( $48.70 USD )
: Seat 5: Hero ( $29.90 USD )
: Seat 6: laura1991 ( $25.00 USD )
: Seat 7: jimjack111 ( $4.40 USD )

p*******p
发帖数: 13670
6
yah, I expect this should be a +EV shove, I did shove, and he has pocket 5,
and as always ,I never draw out, lol

you
is
makes

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: in his eyes, what could you have?
: 1) AK, AQ alike, a naked c-bet, then his raise (with any two) could get you
: to fold here;
: 2) over pair, unless it's a dominant one, like you have JJ, he has AJ (J is
: useless), he still has plenty of outs with AQ/AK;
: 3) set? your bet is a little too big, it's possible but not likely;
: 4) you're not happy with two spades, and want to finish it here, so it makes
: his hand like AsKs, Ts8s very playable;
: 5) two pair, actually it's pretty hidden for your pre-flop action

p*******p
发帖数: 13670
7
on a flop like this, I don't see how I can fold top 2 pairs...

【在 d**x 的大作中提到】
: I will all-in.... unless he hit set...
: maybe this is my problem that I usually dont fold top 2 pairs...haha

c********e
发帖数: 267
8
I think it has to do with your preflop raise.
I wouldn't raise if Im UTG with a suited 9c7c (its not that connected). Yes
I'm tight, lol. I might just fold that kinda cards.
Even if I limp in, situation might be different that might not cause me to
loose most of the stack.
p*******p
发帖数: 13670
9
the preflop raise is just a balance play, you can't only raise qq+ and AK
utg

Yes

【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: I think it has to do with your preflop raise.
: I wouldn't raise if Im UTG with a suited 9c7c (its not that connected). Yes
: I'm tight, lol. I might just fold that kinda cards.
: Even if I limp in, situation might be different that might not cause me to
: loose most of the stack.

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
10
nothing wrong, he gets paid off when you are trying to mix up.
ppl see your play and may pay you off later too.

,

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: yah, I expect this should be a +EV shove, I did shove, and he has pocket 5,
: and as always ,I never draw out, lol
:
: you
: is
: makes

f*****g
发帖数: 15860
11
haha, i love to limp/raise these medium suited one gappers, more than
connectors.
two pair actually is not what i'm looking for most of time, but combo draws.
they're not a big underdog, and much stronger than they appear to be.
1) vs. so called premium hands like AKo or AKs, they're only 40:60 behind.
they're in much better shape than AJs, ATs when facing AK/AQ;
2) vs. an over pair like KK (no K in the same suit), they're even slightly
better than small PP like 77, 99;
3) in a multi-way pot, th

【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: I think it has to do with your preflop raise.
: I wouldn't raise if Im UTG with a suited 9c7c (its not that connected). Yes
: I'm tight, lol. I might just fold that kinda cards.
: Even if I limp in, situation might be different that might not cause me to
: loose most of the stack.

d**x
发帖数: 1934
12
last time at local casino, top two pairs cost me $350....
lower set screwed me up..

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: on a flop like this, I don't see how I can fold top 2 pairs...
d**x
发帖数: 1934
13
i like your style. haha
i always change my way of raising.

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: the preflop raise is just a balance play, you can't only raise qq+ and AK
: utg
:
: Yes

q****8
发帖数: 3281
14
In micro stake tables, ppl usually play pretty straightforward, he bet so
much means he has a very strong hand, definitely not on a draw.
I have learned this by losing money. For example, once I was in sb, and
always raised to 3bb preflop when only me and bb left, and he always folded.
I got AKo once and did the same thing raising to $0.3, he suddenly went all
-in with $10. I thought WTF was going on here? who would play AA like this?!
I thought he just got mad, so called. Turned out he did have

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: $25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 29, 05:16:46 ET 2009
: Table Cornflower (Real Money)
: Seat 2 is the button
: Seat 1: PocketDonkeys08 ( $26.05 USD )
: Seat 2: skundarbeg ( $12.80 USD )
: Seat 3: miskk ( $9.30 USD )
: Seat 4: JaynJenny ( $48.70 USD )
: Seat 5: Hero ( $29.90 USD )
: Seat 6: laura1991 ( $25.00 USD )
: Seat 7: jimjack111 ( $4.40 USD )

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