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发帖数: 8 | 1 刚看了几个MB案子的证人Video。看来一个争议点就是MB的手在当时是什么状态。警察
方认为MB的手在兜里，有可能拿枪的嫌疑，也有所谓证人说看见MB举起了手。美国警察
的日子不是那么好过，受过很强的自卫保护训练。一旦认为嫌疑人有枪且有攻击倾向，
必先发制人，且必至于死地。MB 6'4" 的大个子,300磅的体重，一旦被警察认为有威胁
，悲剧就发生了。这就是听到警察喊FREEZE，你最好别动。路上被警察PULL，最好把双
手放在明面上，没叫你动，你就不要动。我知道现在大家玩枪的人不少，但遇到COP叔
叔，咱们还是乖点儿，装胆小。一点个人看法，轻拍呀。 | s**********o
发帖数: 14359 | 2 媒体明显地误导，感觉是手无寸铁的18岁的黑小孩在街头，
莫名惨遭警察枪杀，但事实是，18岁的小孩身高1米9，280-300磅，
好像也参与了偷盗，而且还跟警察扭打了，警察眼角都打破了，
打了警察还想抢警察的枪，然后还想跑，最后被打死。警察下手是狠了点，
但被打死的其实也不是啥好人了。 | r********9
发帖数: 10694 | 3 警察和泥哥谁对华人亲近一些就支持谁。这就是政治正确 | l*********e
发帖数: 605 | | c****a
发帖数: 3173 | 5 主流媒体的话也当真？不看看他们是为谁服务的。。。 | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 6 There have been other Asian American victims of police misconduct in the Bay
Area. Cau Tran, a Vietnamese American, was shot in her San Jose home in
2003 because she was holding a vegetable peeler. Kuang Chung Kao, a Chinese
American, was shot outside his home in Rohnert Park in 1997 because the
police assumed he had deadly martial arts skills.
Kuang Chung Kao, a Taiwanese man from San Francisco, April 1997, was
celebrating a job promotion in a bar when he became the target of racially-
motivated slurs. Drunk and angry, he was waving a broomstick at his
neighbors for help just when police arrived.
Although Kao’s wife removed the broomstick from his grasp, the officers
ordered her to step backwards and fired a shot into her husband’s chest.
Kao was still alive, but the police prevented his wife, a registered nurse,
from administering to his wound and, thus, he lost his life. After the
incident, the police department claimed that Kao still had the broomstick in
his hands when he was shot.
The officer presumed that because he was an Asian man, he was doing martial
arts, and shot him just 34 seconds upon arrival at the scene. In response to
Mr. Kao's death, along with many community members and leaders and other
civil rights organizations, we formed the Coalition for Justice for the Kao
Family to demand a fair examination of what took place on April 29, 1997.
北加州硅谷10多年前，有一轰动美国华人社会的警察乱杀案件。一对台湾来的夫妇，男
的是电脑工程师，女的是护士，一天傍晚，男的喝酒后在自家们口耍酒疯，手里拿着一
扫地的塑料笤把，被邻居报警，警察下车后，命令台湾男的放下塑料笤把，男的犹豫一
下，警察一枪击中他的心脏，女的是护士要实施急救，被警察拦阻，自己的丈夫就死在
自己的眼皮下。从警察下车到打死台湾电脑工程师，只用了几秒钟，警察轻轻松松，快
速敏捷，毫不犹豫地剥夺了对警察没有任何威胁的工程师的生命，留下了两个不满一岁
的双胞胎儿子。旧金山湾区台湾籍人士个个义愤填膺，特别是台湾籍律师免费为台湾女
护士打官司。怎知法官站在警察的立场上，打了十年的官司也没结果，最后政府赔偿了
100万，开枪打人的警察没有受任何处分。。。开枪打人的警察在法庭上陈述开枪的理
由，开枪打人的警察在法庭上陈述开枪的理由，中国人都有功夫，棍子在中国人手中危
险。
THE FATAL APRIL shooting of Kuan Chung Kao, 33, by Rohnert Park Police
Officer Jack Shields and the seven other police-involved deaths in Sonoma
County over the past two years are gaining fervent attention nationwide,
including a glimmer of interest from one long-silent local human-rights
group.
In new developments disclosed this week, the Independent has learned that
the Rev. Jesse Jackson will visit Sonoma County to meet Kao's widow, Ayling
Wu, at an as-yet-undetermined date; state Attorney General Dan Lungren
announced during a visit to Santa Rosa this week that his office has opened
an investigation into the Kao shooting; Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., will
meet with Wu on Oct. 3; and a second meeting between local law-enforcement
chiefs, Bay Area civil-rights groups, and officials from the U.S. Justice
Department is set for Oct. 1 to discuss ways to increase racial and ethnic
sensitivity among local police.
Kao, drunk and swinging a wooden pole, was shot at point-blank range on his
front lawn by an officer who later said he felt threatened by Kao's "
martial arts-style" moves. Critics point out that Kao had no martial arts
training and contend that the shooting was racially motivated.
The FBI, the U.S. Justice Department, and, last week, the U.S. Commission
on Civil Rights have all stepped in to probe a possible pattern of police
brutality alleged in eight separate cases. Yet critics say the response from
our own backyard--specifically from the Sonoma County Human Rights
Commission--has been strangely absent. "I'm pretty disappointed," says Nancy
Wang, president of the Redwood Empire Chinese Association. "The commission
has put this under the table--despite all the action right now, the Human
Rights Commission is doing nothing." | r********9
发帖数: 10694 | 7 华人的命真贱当时
Bay
Chinese
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: There have been other Asian American victims of police misconduct in the Bay
: Area. Cau Tran, a Vietnamese American, was shot in her San Jose home in
: 2003 because she was holding a vegetable peeler. Kuang Chung Kao, a Chinese
: American, was shot outside his home in Rohnert Park in 1997 because the
: police assumed he had deadly martial arts skills.
: Kuang Chung Kao, a Taiwanese man from San Francisco, April 1997, was
: celebrating a job promotion in a bar when he became the target of racially-
: motivated slurs. Drunk and angry, he was waving a broomstick at his
: neighbors for help just when police arrived.
: Although Kao’s wife removed the broomstick from his grasp, the officers
| k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 8 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2850308/Darren-Wilson-s
EXCLUSIVE: Darren Wilson's friends demand that 'star' witness in Michael
Brown case be charged with PERJURY for his 'hands up, don't shoot lie' after
grand jury rejects teen's version of events | Z****7
发帖数: 402 | 9 媒体整个儿就在那误导
【在 K******9 的大作中提到】
: 刚看了几个MB案子的证人Video。看来一个争议点就是MB的手在当时是什么状态。警察
: 方认为MB的手在兜里，有可能拿枪的嫌疑，也有所谓证人说看见MB举起了手。美国警察
: 的日子不是那么好过，受过很强的自卫保护训练。一旦认为嫌疑人有枪且有攻击倾向，
: 必先发制人，且必至于死地。MB 6'4" 的大个子,300磅的体重，一旦被警察认为有威胁
: ，悲剧就发生了。这就是听到警察喊FREEZE，你最好别动。路上被警察PULL，最好把双
: 手放在明面上，没叫你动，你就不要动。我知道现在大家玩枪的人不少，但遇到COP叔
: 叔，咱们还是乖点儿，装胆小。一点个人看法，轻拍呀。
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 10 On July 13th of 2003, Cau Thi Bich Tran, a Vietnamese woman, a mother of
two young children, was fatally shot by a single bullet in the chest in her
own apartment. Her children were in the next room over, as her boyfriend
witnessed the killing in a horrid dismay. Her boyfriend and two children
were screaming for help, screaming out of utter shock. But just as strange
and as “foreign” as their impoverished home and personal appearances, the
words that were screamed were merely indiscernible noises to officer Chad
Marshall, the man who put a bullet through Cau Tran’s chest.
The San Jose police department issued a press release – clearly stating
that officer Marshall’s shooting was justified – that Cau Tran was clearly
holding a deadly “Cleaver” – that she was ready to throw like a dagger.
It is just improbable that this 4 foot 9 inch woman who weighed 90lbs could
have made officer Marshall feel that his life was in danger. Maybe officer
Marshall thought of movies such “Double Dragon” or “Drunken Monkey” as
he centered his aim, shooting to kill Cau Tran without hesitancy. Many
Vietnamese women use the same vegetable peeler that Cau Tran was holding in
their kitchens.
The police report says that two officers were called to Tran's home about 9
p.m. on a so-called "welfare check" after a neighbor reported that Tran's
toddler had been seen crossing a busy street after dark, according to the
police report of the incident. The neighbor also called back to say that she
heard screaming coming from the residence Tran shared with her boyfriend,
Dang Bui, and the couple's two young boys, ages 3 and 4.
Officers Marshall and Tom Mun were greeted at the door by Tran's boyfriend,
who said she was "acting crazy," Dixon said. As the boyfriend ushered the
two boys down a hallway, the officers encountered Tran in the kitchen.
"She began yelling at them in English to get out of house," Dixon said. "
They tried to calm her down, but she reached into a drawer and pulled out
what the officers thought was a cleaver."
When Tran reportedly raised the implement -- with a 6-inch blade and 4-inch
handle -- Marshall opened fire from about 6 feet away, striking Tran once in
the chest. She was pronounced dead at the scene.
"It was one of those instantaneous critical moments in which the officer
made the decision to use deadly force," San Jose Assistant Police Chief
Thomas Wheatley said. "We're reviewing it. The D.A. is reviewing it."
Wheatley said the public should not underestimate the threat from the device
. "When you tell an American audience that the woman was holding a potato
peeler, most people have the image of that little thing you use to scrape a
potato," Wheatley said. "But this thing had a much, much larger blade.
"Was this a deadly weapon? We think it was. And the district attorney agrees
with us." | | | n******r
发帖数: 9146 | 11 学不了啥。警察警告了还冲上去给脸上两拳
【在 K******9 的大作中提到】
: 刚看了几个MB案子的证人Video。看来一个争议点就是MB的手在当时是什么状态。警察
: 方认为MB的手在兜里，有可能拿枪的嫌疑，也有所谓证人说看见MB举起了手。美国警察
: 的日子不是那么好过，受过很强的自卫保护训练。一旦认为嫌疑人有枪且有攻击倾向，
: 必先发制人，且必至于死地。MB 6'4" 的大个子,300磅的体重，一旦被警察认为有威胁
: ，悲剧就发生了。这就是听到警察喊FREEZE，你最好别动。路上被警察PULL，最好把双
: 手放在明面上，没叫你动，你就不要动。我知道现在大家玩枪的人不少，但遇到COP叔
: 叔，咱们还是乖点儿，装胆小。一点个人看法，轻拍呀。
| k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 12 “but she reached into a drawer and pulled out
what the officers thought was a cleaver."”
一般人不会这么做，当着警察的面
可怜孩子 | d****u
发帖数: 1373 | 13 不是偷盗，是抢劫
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
【在 s**********o 的大作中提到】
: 媒体明显地误导，感觉是手无寸铁的18岁的黑小孩在街头，
: 莫名惨遭警察枪杀，但事实是，18岁的小孩身高1米9，280-300磅，
: 好像也参与了偷盗，而且还跟警察扭打了，警察眼角都打破了，
: 打了警察还想抢警察的枪，然后还想跑，最后被打死。警察下手是狠了点，
: 但被打死的其实也不是啥好人了。
| l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 14 打死活该. 看老黑们的证词破绽百出.
Ferguson grand jury papers full of inconsistencies
November 27, 2014 - 11:35 AM
By HOLBROOK MOHR, DAVID A. LIEB and PHILLIP LUCAS, Associated Press
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Some witnesses said Michael Brown had been shot in the
back. Another said he was face-down on the ground when Officer Darren
Wilson "finished him off." Still others acknowledged changing their stories
to fit published details about the autopsy or admitted that they did not see
the shooting at all.
An Associated Press review of thousands of pages of grand jury documents
reveals numerous examples of statements made during the shooting
investigation that were inconsistent, fabricated or provably wrong. For one,
the autopsies ultimately showed Brown was not struck by any bullets in his
back.
Prosecutors exposed these inconsistencies before the jurors, which likely
influenced their decision not to indict Wilson in Brown's death.
Bob McCulloch, the St. Louis County prosecutor, said the grand jury had to
weigh testimony that conflicted with physical evidence and conflicting
statements by witnesses as it decided whether Wilson should face charges.
"Many witnesses to the shooting of Michael Brown made statements
inconsistent with other statements they made and also conflicting with the
physical evidence. Some were completely refuted by the physical evidence,"
McCulloch said.
The decision Monday not to charge Wilson with any crime set off more violent
protests in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson and around the country, fueled
by claims that the unarmed black 18-year-old was shot while surrendering to
the white officer in the mostly African-American city.
What people thought were facts about the Aug. 9 shooting have become
intertwined with what many see as abuses of power and racial inequality in
America.
And media coverage of the shooting's aftermath made it into the grand jury
proceedings. Before some witnesses testified, prosecutors showed jurors
clips of the same people making statements on TV.
Their inconsistencies began almost immediately after the shooting, from
people in the neighborhood, the friend walking with Brown during the
encounter and even one woman who authorities suggested probably wasn't even
at the scene at the time.
Jurors also were presented with dueling versions from Wilson and Dorian
Johnson, who was walking with Brown during the Aug. 9 confrontation. Johnson
painted Wilson as provoking the violence, while Wilson said Brown was the
aggressor.
But Johnson also declared on TV, in a clip played for the grand jury, that
Wilson fired at least one shot at his friend while Brown was running away: "
It struck my friend in the back."
Johnson held to a variation of this description in his grand jury testimony,
saying the shot caused Brown's body to "do like a jerking movement, not to
where it looked like he got hit in his back, but I knew, it maybe could have
grazed him, but he definitely made a jerking movement."
Other eyewitness accounts also were clearly wrong.
One woman, who said she was smoking a cigarette with a friend nearby,
claimed she saw a second police officer in the passenger seat of Wilson's
vehicle. When quizzed by a prosecutor, she elaborated: The officer was white
, "middle age or young" and in uniform. She said she was positive there was
a second officer — even though there was not.
Another woman testified that she saw Brown leaning through the officer's
window "from his navel up," with his hand moving up and down, as if he were
punching the officer. But when the same witness returned to testify again on
another day, she said she suffers from mental disorder, has racist views
and that she has trouble distinguishing the truth from things she had read
online.
Prosecutors suggested the woman had fabricated the entire incident and was
not even at the scene the day of the shooting.
Another witness had told the FBI that Wilson shot Brown in the back and then
"stood over him and finished him off." But in his grand jury testimony,
this witness acknowledged that he had not seen that part of the shooting,
and that what he told the FBI was "based on me being where I'm from, and
that can be the only assumption that I have."
The witness, who lives in the predominantly black neighborhood where Brown
was killed, also acknowledged that he changed his story to fit details of
the autopsy that he had learned about on TV.
"So it was after you learned that the things you said you saw couldn't have
happened that way, then you changed your story about what you seen?" a
prosecutor asserted.
"Yeah, to coincide with what really happened," the witness replied.
Another man, describing himself as a friend of Brown's, told a federal
investigator that he heard the first gunshot, looked out his window and saw
an officer with a gun drawn and Brown "on his knees with his hands in the
air." He added: "I seen him shoot him in the head."
But when later pressed by the investigator, the friend said he had not seen
the actual shooting because he was walking down the stairs at the time and
instead had heard details from someone in the apartment complex.
"What you are saying you saw isn't forensically possible based on the
evidence," the investigator told the friend.
Shortly after that, the friend asked if he could leave.
"I ain't feeling comfortable," he said. | s**********o
发帖数: 14359 | 15 反复强调的是18岁黑人，但为什么不提6尺4，280磅呢
既然提岁数种族不侵犯隐私，那身高体重为啥给隐瞒了
6尺4，280磅去NBA打篮球都可以了 | c***m
发帖数: 902 | 16 黑人杀害USC学生，USC附近黑人怎么不示威？外州黑人男孩（有盗窃嫌疑的）被警察打
死，那个地区的黑人就示威堵住了高速公路，这是种族倾向。本身没有正义，还想被公
平对待？陪审团被黑人吓得都反对警察才公正吗？陪审团都是百姓，不服上诉。暴动就
能争取公平？华人应该从中学点什么？
【在 K******9 的大作中提到】
: 刚看了几个MB案子的证人Video。看来一个争议点就是MB的手在当时是什么状态。警察
: 方认为MB的手在兜里，有可能拿枪的嫌疑，也有所谓证人说看见MB举起了手。美国警察
: 的日子不是那么好过，受过很强的自卫保护训练。一旦认为嫌疑人有枪且有攻击倾向，
: 必先发制人，且必至于死地。MB 6'4" 的大个子,300磅的体重，一旦被警察认为有威胁
: ，悲剧就发生了。这就是听到警察喊FREEZE，你最好别动。路上被警察PULL，最好把双
: 手放在明面上，没叫你动，你就不要动。我知道现在大家玩枪的人不少，但遇到COP叔
: 叔，咱们还是乖点儿，装胆小。一点个人看法，轻拍呀。
| c****a
发帖数: 3173 | 17 老黑最自私。不过他们也忒蠢被几个极端分子一忽悠就大脑发热上街游行了。他们不被
利用谁被利用？ | f****d
发帖数: 3217 | 18 讲得很有道理啊，在这里和警察叫板吃亏的是自己。
【在 K******9 的大作中提到】
: 刚看了几个MB案子的证人Video。看来一个争议点就是MB的手在当时是什么状态。警察
: 方认为MB的手在兜里，有可能拿枪的嫌疑，也有所谓证人说看见MB举起了手。美国警察
: 的日子不是那么好过，受过很强的自卫保护训练。一旦认为嫌疑人有枪且有攻击倾向，
: 必先发制人，且必至于死地。MB 6'4" 的大个子,300磅的体重，一旦被警察认为有威胁
: ，悲剧就发生了。这就是听到警察喊FREEZE，你最好别动。路上被警察PULL，最好把双
: 手放在明面上，没叫你动，你就不要动。我知道现在大家玩枪的人不少，但遇到COP叔
: 叔，咱们还是乖点儿，装胆小。一点个人看法，轻拍呀。
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