G****8
发帖数: 475 | 1 昨晚碰到一50+球友，正反手都是切，削，挑，几乎没有抽球。球速也不快，但落点都
在边边角角，很深。异常consistent, 球球看起来都象drunk ball,但你就是打不死他
。整个一老年版的dropshot.
已经打了七八年的4.0，去年bump up to 4.5，打了一年4.5，成绩太差，又被
downgrade to 4.0。当我听他说去年打4.5，下巴都快掉下来了。
象他这种在4.0里胜率接近100%，在4.5里接近0%，到底算啥level? |
w******n
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G****8
发帖数: 475 | 3 没4.25这个级别呀。
如果他在4.0里不控制战绩，就只能在4.0 和4.5里上下折腾了。
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 4.25
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 4 折腾几次就能在4.5站住了。多打会涨经验值
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 没4.25这个级别呀。
: 如果他在4.0里不控制战绩，就只能在4.0 和4.5里上下折腾了。
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 5 这大概就是野球打法的极限了吧。再往上都是基本功练出来的
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 没4.25这个级别呀。
: 如果他在4.0里不控制战绩，就只能在4.0 和4.5里上下折腾了。
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F******c
发帖数: 1071 | 6 上次老肯贴了个练冰球的，估计有5.0
如果monfils练邪派，估计能在atp拿个积分
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 这大概就是野球打法的极限了吧。再往上都是基本功练出来的
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 7 对，还要考虑每个人的身体条件的不同。
我的意思是就具体的一个人来说，如果练教科书打法，上升的空间更大一些。
【在 F******c 的大作中提到】
: 上次老肯贴了个练冰球的，估计有5.0
: 如果monfils练邪派，估计能在atp拿个积分
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F******c
发帖数: 1071 | 8 差不多，wsn的天花板估计就是4.0了
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 对，还要考虑每个人的身体条件的不同。
: 我的意思是就具体的一个人来说，如果练教科书打法，上升的空间更大一些。
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 9 身体素质差的，天花板是4.0；身体素质好的，天花板是4.5
【在 F******c 的大作中提到】
: 差不多，wsn的天花板估计就是4.0了
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | |
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 11 我去年league里碰到一个人也是一样的打法，一旦被他削出节奏来就左一个右一个的调
我。我正好赶上那天手感好，所以每个球我都抢先进攻，让他处于防守出软球，然后进
场finish，最后赢得还算轻松。不过有些球他要是先上手了，最后基本都是我丢分。
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 昨晚碰到一50+球友，正反手都是切，削，挑，几乎没有抽球。球速也不快，但落点都
: 在边边角角，很深。异常consistent, 球球看起来都象drunk ball,但你就是打不死他
: 。整个一老年版的dropshot.
: 已经打了七八年的4.0，去年bump up to 4.5，打了一年4.5，成绩太差，又被
: downgrade to 4.0。当我听他说去年打4.5，下巴都快掉下来了。
: 象他这种在4.0里胜率接近100%，在4.5里接近0%，到底算啥level?
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 12 显然强4.0啊，貌似是这种打发的极限？
貌似4.0升4.5很难，所以4.5里淘汰下来的好多都是真功夫的少林派
邪派我估计到了4.5里就真如你这个球友一样没法混了
不过4.0 high已经很牛了，我这辈子不知道能不能达到
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 昨晚碰到一50+球友，正反手都是切，削，挑，几乎没有抽球。球速也不快，但落点都
: 在边边角角，很深。异常consistent, 球球看起来都象drunk ball,但你就是打不死他
: 。整个一老年版的dropshot.
: 已经打了七八年的4.0，去年bump up to 4.5，打了一年4.5，成绩太差，又被
: downgrade to 4.0。当我听他说去年打4.5，下巴都快掉下来了。
: 象他这种在4.0里胜率接近100%，在4.5里接近0%，到底算啥level?
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 13 strong 4.0, maybe can be entitled weak 4.5......
each level can be a very wide range: from weak to average to strong.....
weak X.0 actually just luckly above or badly closing to its lower level,
strong X.0 unfortunately closin g to one level above but definitely dominate
in his level; average X.0 is the one we usually talked about sb is "X.0"
level.
my cent.....
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 昨晚碰到一50+球友，正反手都是切，削，挑，几乎没有抽球。球速也不快，但落点都
: 在边边角角，很深。异常consistent, 球球看起来都象drunk ball,但你就是打不死他
: 。整个一老年版的dropshot.
: 已经打了七八年的4.0，去年bump up to 4.5，打了一年4.5，成绩太差，又被
: downgrade to 4.0。当我听他说去年打4.5，下巴都快掉下来了。
: 象他这种在4.0里胜率接近100%，在4.5里接近0%，到底算啥level?
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 14 Santaro笑而不语
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 这大概就是野球打法的极限了吧。再往上都是基本功练出来的
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 15 大家举来举去也就是SANTARO，呵呵
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Santaro笑而不语
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 16 他只是个子小，打法有些另类，但基本功还是名门正派吧。
话说我曾现场看过他边聊天边掂球，那球性手感真牛。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Santaro笑而不语
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 17 讨论的是ceiling，只要一个反例就可以了。如果讨论的是平均水平，当我没说。
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 大家举来举去也就是SANTARO，呵呵
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 18 讨论的不就是打法么？没讨论手感，平衡，跑动啊？
名门正派有用双正削球的？
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 他只是个子小，打法有些另类，但基本功还是名门正派吧。
: 话说我曾现场看过他边聊天边掂球，那球性手感真牛。
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 19 exceptions make the rule, lol
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 讨论的是ceiling，只要一个反例就可以了。如果讨论的是平均水平，当我没说。
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G****8
发帖数: 475 | 20 估计4.5球重和快得他不能随心所欲地挡了，而且有能力打出killing shot。
昨晚一average 4.0跟他打，频繁发生的是，average 4.0 暴力抽他四五板，抽不死，
最后失误。
【在 z*********n 的大作中提到】
: 显然强4.0啊，貌似是这种打发的极限？
: 貌似4.0升4.5很难，所以4.5里淘汰下来的好多都是真功夫的少林派
: 邪派我估计到了4.5里就真如你这个球友一样没法混了
: 不过4.0 high已经很牛了，我这辈子不知道能不能达到
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 21 How about this guy then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Vqp6UveIU
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 他只是个子小，打法有些另类，但基本功还是名门正派吧。
: 话说我曾现场看过他边聊天边掂球，那球性手感真牛。
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 22 只是双正吧，both drive and slice
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 讨论的不就是打法么？没讨论手感，平衡，跑动啊？
: 名门正派有用双正削球的？
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 23 这个和桑托罗，我认为都不能归为打野球的。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: How about this guy then?
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Vqp6UveIU
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 24 Does this sound like 打野球 to you?
From an early age he worked as a ball boy within a sports complex in Tehran,
Iran. He observed many of the best Iranian tennis players in action but he
was never allowed to play. Eventually he snuck onto one of the courts but
his first racquet was destroyed by an outraged armed guard who kicked him
out. He resorted to learning the game through the use of his hands or frying
pans or broom handles. Bahrami has often commented that his outrageous
shotmaking ability resulted from mastering tennis using such unusual
implements.
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 这个和桑托罗，我认为都不能归为打野球的。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 25 More:
The time came when the Iranian team was short of players and Bahrami was
finally permitted to play the game on a tennis court. His talent was obvious
and he reached the Davis Cup team (and helped the team to victory at the
age of just sixteen) but in the late 1970s the Islamic Revolution within
Iran led to tennis being viewed as a capitalist and elitist sport. He spent
the next three years playing backgammon as all tennis courts were closed
down. In desperation he fled to France with his life savings, which he
gambled in a casino and lost.[1] A number of friends supported him
financially as he began to play a few tournaments within France.
Tehran,
he
frying
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Does this sound like 打野球 to you?
: From an early age he worked as a ball boy within a sports complex in Tehran,
: Iran. He observed many of the best Iranian tennis players in action but he
: was never allowed to play. Eventually he snuck onto one of the courts but
: his first racquet was destroyed by an outraged armed guard who kicked him
: out. He resorted to learning the game through the use of his hands or frying
: pans or broom handles. Bahrami has often commented that his outrageous
: shotmaking ability resulted from mastering tennis using such unusual
: implements.
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 26 wsn's idol
obvious
spent
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: More:
: The time came when the Iranian team was short of players and Bahrami was
: finally permitted to play the game on a tennis court. His talent was obvious
: and he reached the Davis Cup team (and helped the team to victory at the
: age of just sixteen) but in the late 1970s the Islamic Revolution within
: Iran led to tennis being viewed as a capitalist and elitist sport. He spent
: the next three years playing backgammon as all tennis courts were closed
: down. In desperation he fled to France with his life savings, which he
: gambled in a casino and lost.[1] A number of friends supported him
: financially as he began to play a few tournaments within France.
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c*******n
发帖数: 1769 | 27 50% different from current dropshot, dropshot does not
use backhand slice. At least now, needs at least
two months before backhand slice can be moved out of
storage room into the killing ground.
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 昨晚碰到一50+球友，正反手都是切，削，挑，几乎没有抽球。球速也不快，但落点都
: 在边边角角，很深。异常consistent, 球球看起来都象drunk ball,但你就是打不死他
: 。整个一老年版的dropshot.
: 已经打了七八年的4.0，去年bump up to 4.5，打了一年4.5，成绩太差，又被
: downgrade to 4.0。当我听他说去年打4.5，下巴都快掉下来了。
: 象他这种在4.0里胜率接近100%，在4.5里接近0%，到底算啥level?
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 28 Dont over look the mentality. That's a big difference between 4.0 and 4.5.
Top 4.0 could have a strong mental but crappy strokes .
At 4.5 his mental advantage is not as evident but crappy strokes gets
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 29 你的意思是不是说：
想赢的愿望在低水平比赛中占比例更高
能赢的能力在高水平比赛中占比例更高
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: Dont over look the mentality. That's a big difference between 4.0 and 4.5.
: Top 4.0 could have a strong mental but crappy strokes .
: At 4.5 his mental advantage is not as evident but crappy strokes gets
: exploit
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G****8
发帖数: 475 | 30 太绕了！
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是不是说：
: 想赢的愿望在低水平比赛中占比例更高
: 能赢的能力在高水平比赛中占比例更高
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 31 结论：你中文不如我
【在 G****8 的大作中提到】
: 太绕了！
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 32 这人的手感是神仙级别的。
obvious
spent
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: More:
: The time came when the Iranian team was short of players and Bahrami was
: finally permitted to play the game on a tennis court. His talent was obvious
: and he reached the Davis Cup team (and helped the team to victory at the
: age of just sixteen) but in the late 1970s the Islamic Revolution within
: Iran led to tennis being viewed as a capitalist and elitist sport. He spent
: the next three years playing backgammon as all tennis courts were closed
: down. In desperation he fled to France with his life savings, which he
: gambled in a casino and lost.[1] A number of friends supported him
: financially as he began to play a few tournaments within France.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 33 你说我学学他那个上手放空然后下手打过去的发球，是不是实战中比如局点盘点时候当
一发挺牛的？
【在 d****t 的大作中提到】
: 这人的手感是神仙级别的。
:
: obvious
: spent
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 34 如果你对手站的比较靠后应该可行。不过要当心对手飞拍子过来。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 你说我学学他那个上手放空然后下手打过去的发球，是不是实战中比如局点盘点时候当
: 一发挺牛的？
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