c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 1 Everyone is asking advice from their practice video,
let me also present one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2mgAQl-HLM
since opposite side is my normal double's partner, it is more
like practice other than warmup. Covered forehand backhand
volley anti-volley, overhead, even backhand side overhead etc,
covers more than 30% of my total shots already |
b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 2 Nice, you are improving fast. That's good news for your ATL team if you guys
advance to division 5. Just one small note, you might want to keep your
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 3 I was just fooling around with shbh, not really
seriously pursuing it :), other than that, any advice?
Teacher well, no advice, your theory level is comparable
to mentor black
guys
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : Nice, you are improving fast. That's good news for your ATL team if you guys : advance to division 5. Just one small note, you might want to keep your : left hand on the racquet longer on those SHBH.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 5 你明显还是个单打选手,底线比网前舒服很多。什么时候奔个队友的发球局看看?
偶估计你如果和偶配对打7.0 doubles会输的很惨,除非偶们双底线,呵呵。
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : Everyone is asking advice from their practice video, : let me also present one. : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2mgAQl-HLM : since opposite side is my normal double's partner, it is more : like practice other than warmup. Covered forehand backhand : volley anti-volley, overhead, even backhand side overhead etc, : covers more than 30% of my total shots already
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 6 上班没法仔细看啊。而且你录像的角度又很独特,不放全屏根本看不清
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : I was just fooling around with shbh, not really : seriously pursuing it :), other than that, any advice? : Teacher well, no advice, your theory level is comparable : to mentor black : : guys
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 7 Very good point, any shot or give one time frame?
【在 M***x 的大作中提到】 : Bend your knees.
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M***x 发帖数: 288 | 8 Almost every shot, you are too lazy... You are not using your legs to
generate power.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : Very good point, any shot or give one time frame?
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 9 not obvious ba.
I am the top 2 doubles player in our team,
I and my partner barely let our opponent got more than
3 games per set. For usta reference, we played one couple
female usta 4.5b male usta 3.5c, we beat them 6:0 6:1,
I play close to net in partner service game, so
if the ball is in my reach, however fast it is, statistically
it will be dead in the other court, knocking ball out of the
fence will happen a few times a match :)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : 你明显还是个单打选手,底线比网前舒服很多。什么时候奔个队友的发球局看看? : 偶估计你如果和偶配对打7.0 doubles会输的很惨,除非偶们双底线,呵呵。
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 10 Good point, teacher K :)
【在 M***x 的大作中提到】 : Almost every shot, you are too lazy... You are not using your legs to : generate power.
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 11 hard to give direct advice since your play style is unique and we never
played. I am more into technical stuff, but it might not best suited for
your game style.
Aside from that, it's a bit difficult to see from that angle.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : Good point, teacher K :)
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 12 his racquet provide plenty power. He need those legs to be ready to run down
any shot and every shot. Asking him to bend knee on every shot is molding
him into a topspin baseline grinder. He really need to decide which path he
wants to pursuit... jedi way or to the darkside....
【在 M***x 的大作中提到】 : Almost every shot, you are too lazy... You are not using your legs to : generate power.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 13 How's your singles ranking in your team?
I feel your style works well with a volley/smash specialist doubles partner
but not with a strong baseliner.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : not obvious ba. : I am the top 2 doubles player in our team, : I and my partner barely let our opponent got more than : 3 games per set. For usta reference, we played one couple : female usta 4.5b male usta 3.5c, we beat them 6:0 6:1, : I play close to net in partner service game, so : if the ball is in my reach, however fast it is, statistically : it will be dead in the other court, knocking ball out of the : fence will happen a few times a match :)
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 14 I have to agree with LaoKen on this one. I think your game is better suited
for singles (I could be wrong). How do you rate doubles game against that
Filipino guy on your team?
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : not obvious ba. : I am the top 2 doubles player in our team, : I and my partner barely let our opponent got more than : 3 games per set. For usta reference, we played one couple : female usta 4.5b male usta 3.5c, we beat them 6:0 6:1, : I play close to net in partner service game, so : if the ball is in my reach, however fast it is, statistically : it will be dead in the other court, knocking ball out of the : fence will happen a few times a match :)
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M***x 发帖数: 288 | 15 I will give credit to dropshot on his doubles game. He is very fast at the
net and even though he doesn't have high quality volley shots, his court
coverage and dedication can dominate doubles in his league.
suited
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : I have to agree with LaoKen on this one. I think your game is better suited : for singles (I could be wrong). How do you rate doubles game against that : Filipino guy on your team?
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M***x 发帖数: 288 | 16 Once you go dark side, there is no turning back... :P
down
he
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : his racquet provide plenty power. He need those legs to be ready to run down : any shot and every shot. Asking him to bend knee on every shot is molding : him into a topspin baseline grinder. He really need to decide which path he : wants to pursuit... jedi way or to the darkside....
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 17 大概看了看,简单说几点:
1.正手削非常好,连带效应就是正手volley也不错
2.看到几个正手drive,貌似还不错,不过看不太清
3.双反问题比较大,动作做不全,setup和随挥都没有,基本就是双臂硬挡。脚下习惯
站直了往后踢左腿,而不是向前上右脚。不过基本都能把球挡过去,有的还挺深,作为
防守来说也够用了,进攻就差点。
4.球性很好,移动中对球的跟踪和判断很好,底线后有个高压很impressive。
其他的看不太出来,建议奔个认真打的,热身随便乱打真的说不清 |
n*********e 发帖数: 25274 | 18 3个小矮人练了一会儿球,忽然来个光头大巨人要求加入... |
c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 19 It was 8 months ago since we played that doubles :)
For good or for worse, a lot of things in my play has been
very different. Last time your partner was a pure
singles player, how about some time we play you and MP,
me and that Fillopino for doubles?
【在 M***x 的大作中提到】 : I will give credit to dropshot on his doubles game. He is very fast at the : net and even though he doesn't have high quality volley shots, his court : coverage and dedication can dominate doubles in his league. : : suited
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 20 Very good eye. Most of things are pretty accurate.
My backhand does have some problem right now, tried
too many things, it confuse me, at one point, it was
pretty good though.
Baseline overhead is my eating bowl, since I
like to use lob, I do not lob any lob back, never :)
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】 : 大概看了看,简单说几点: : 1.正手削非常好,连带效应就是正手volley也不错 : 2.看到几个正手drive,貌似还不错,不过看不太清 : 3.双反问题比较大,动作做不全,setup和随挥都没有,基本就是双臂硬挡。脚下习惯 : 站直了往后踢左腿,而不是向前上右脚。不过基本都能把球挡过去,有的还挺深,作为 : 防守来说也够用了,进攻就差点。 : 4.球性很好,移动中对球的跟踪和判断很好,底线后有个高压很impressive。 : 其他的看不太出来,建议奔个认真打的,热身随便乱打真的说不清
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 21 Do not fully understand your question, anyway
that Fillipino guy is the one hitting with me
in this vid, and is the best doubles player in my team
right now, he and me always pair together, he lost two matches
without me though, I lost one set of D1 without him,
my total record this season is winning 20 sets out of 21 sets
:), but I only had one (out of 3) really good S1 opponent
suited
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : I have to agree with LaoKen on this one. I think your game is better suited : for singles (I could be wrong). How do you rate doubles game against that : Filipino guy on your team?
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 22 lob你反手就是了,再加点上旋,难道还能底线后反手打overhead?想run around打正
手overhead,端尿盆lob可能来得及,topspin lob就难了
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : Do not fully understand your question, anyway : that Fillipino guy is the one hitting with me : in this vid, and is the best doubles player in my team : right now, he and me always pair together, he lost two matches : without me though, I lost one set of D1 without him, : my total record this season is winning 20 sets out of 21 sets : :), but I only had one (out of 3) really good S1 opponent : : suited
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 23 That is true. I take it back, if it is at my backhand side,
I have to lob it back or slice it back, not my comfort zone.
The overhead just before the forehand overhead in the video
is a backhand side overhead though.
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】 : lob你反手就是了,再加点上旋,难道还能底线后反手打overhead?想run around打正 : 手overhead,端尿盆lob可能来得及,topspin lob就难了
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 24 //sigh, 打羽毛球的还没见过overhead和1发不好的,让偶这个overhead奇差男
情何以堪阿。
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : That is true. I take it back, if it is at my backhand side, : I have to lob it back or slice it back, not my comfort zone. : The overhead just before the forehand overhead in the video : is a backhand side overhead though. :
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 25 Dropshot is also a badminton player?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : //sigh, 打羽毛球的还没见过overhead和1发不好的,让偶这个overhead奇差男 : 情何以堪阿。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 26 How come you don't practice with your team on Thursdays? |
c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 27 You were there at Vandergrift last Thursday?
I live in the South, Thursday is for
north dwellers. Driving 15 miles for a practice
is a little bit too much for me
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : How come you don't practice with your team on Thursdays?
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 28 How about we play a doubles match some time?
You and Magix (or realfan) vs. me and Filipio,
see whether me and Filipilo will get more than 2 games
a set or not?
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : How come you don't practice with your team on Thursdays?
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 29 I play at vandergrift hs fairly regular. Might not be there next Thursday
Not many free courts at south I'm too wsn to play at tennis clubs.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : You were there at Vandergrift last Thursday? : I live in the South, Thursday is for : north dwellers. Driving 15 miles for a practice : is a little bit too much for me
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 30 I'm up for whatever just need to plan out ahead.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : How about we play a doubles match some time? : You and Magix (or realfan) vs. me and Filipio, : see whether me and Filipilo will get more than 2 games : a set or not?
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M***x 发帖数: 288 | 31 Just let me know if you guys have a plan
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : How about we play a doubles match some time? : You and Magix (or realfan) vs. me and Filipio, : see whether me and Filipilo will get more than 2 games : a set or not?
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 32 Perfect, will it be OK
to play on the week of 04/29 to 05/03?
I know it is a little bit away from now :)
Hopefully I will fix the bending knee problem by then
【在 M***x 的大作中提到】 : Just let me know if you guys have a plan
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 33 奔?
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : Perfect, will it be OK : to play on the week of 04/29 to 05/03? : I know it is a little bit away from now :) : Hopefully I will fix the bending knee problem by then
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 34 No advice for me?
Hao teacher pointed out backhand problem,
and Magix pointed out knee bending,
you are one of the best coaches here....
find some
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】 : 奔?
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 Buy a backup wood racket. It will increase your evil to a whole new level!
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : No advice for me? : Hao teacher pointed out backhand problem, : and Magix pointed out knee bending, : you are one of the best coaches here.... : find some
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 36 It is too tough. I don't know what might suit you.
Like flyingchopstick said.
But I am indeed very interested in seeing how you
play in double. I do have similar thoughts about your
double game as KennyD. But your history proved me
wrong. So, if possible, please ben your games.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : No advice for me? : Hao teacher pointed out backhand problem, : and Magix pointed out knee bending, : you are one of the best coaches here.... : find some
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 37 He has benned before. Both guys had exceptional defense skills, like
returning several overhead smashes in a row.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】 : It is too tough. I don't know what might suit you. : Like flyingchopstick said. : But I am indeed very interested in seeing how you : play in double. I do have similar thoughts about your : double game as KennyD. But your history proved me : wrong. So, if possible, please ben your games.
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 38 But I think in high level double, defense is too tough.
You have to have killer shots, not just defend.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : He has benned before. Both guys had exceptional defense skills, like : returning several overhead smashes in a row.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 39 His partner does have killer shots. So dropshot does the running,
and partner does the killing. dropshot can smash too. Perfect team.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】 : But I think in high level double, defense is too tough. : You have to have killer shots, not just defend.
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 40 Yeah, but that will require a specific type of partner.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : His partner does have killer shots. So dropshot does the running, : and partner does the killing. dropshot can smash too. Perfect team.
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C***O 发帖数: 156 | 41 Excellent point!
Dropshot has teamed up with a very solid volley specialist whose legs are
arguably as good as Dropshot's. Both of them play like mad dogs, chasing
down every single ball, even it means diving onto the grinding surface ;)
Is that right, Dropshot?
partner
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : How's your singles ranking in your team? : I feel your style works well with a volley/smash specialist doubles partner : but not with a strong baseliner.
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 42 可可, no more tennis in ST Paul, has to discuss here
to get some tennis related activity :)
I will post more videos to get you envy....
【在 C***O 的大作中提到】 : Excellent point! : Dropshot has teamed up with a very solid volley specialist whose legs are : arguably as good as Dropshot's. Both of them play like mad dogs, chasing : down every single ball, even it means diving onto the grinding surface ;) : Is that right, Dropshot? : : partner
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 43 At least myself believes that two dropshots
can play very well as a pair, one will block and
kill any ball within a meter of him while standing
a meter from the net, another one will return (
all the incoming
balls still passing the two net person, and
will kill
any lob from the other side.
But it is a hypothesis I can not prove,
because no one I knows plays like me :)
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】 : Yeah, but that will require a specific type of partner.
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 44 Dude, you only have curiosity but
no useful advice, so request
declined :)
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】 : It is too tough. I don't know what might suit you. : Like flyingchopstick said. : But I am indeed very interested in seeing how you : play in double. I do have similar thoughts about your : double game as KennyD. But your history proved me : wrong. So, if possible, please ben your games.
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C***O 发帖数: 156 | 45 Well, it snowed in the last couple of days. I thought I had escaped the
winter but obviously wrong. Spring is coming, it's getting warmer next week,
I mean 40s....
Good time to rehab though. I can enjoy discussion on this board still. ;-)
Michael (black sth?), for one, hehe
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : 可可, no more tennis in ST Paul, has to discuss here : to get some tennis related activity :) : I will post more videos to get you envy....
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 46 4/29 works, 5/1 maybe, 5/2 works if at Vandergrift after 8 (I usually play
with a jr there at 6:30), 4/30 and 5/3 won't work for me.
experience dubs team vs single style players...
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : Perfect, will it be OK : to play on the week of 04/29 to 05/03? : I know it is a little bit away from now :) : Hopefully I will fix the bending knee problem by then
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c*******n 发帖数: 1769 | 47 OK, let's shoot for 4/29, if it works for magix.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 4/29 works, 5/1 maybe, 5/2 works if at Vandergrift after 8 (I usually play : with a jr there at 6:30), 4/30 and 5/3 won't work for me. : experience dubs team vs single style players...
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M***x 发帖数: 288 | 48 I should be available on 4/29.
【在 c*******n 的大作中提到】 : OK, let's shoot for 4/29, if it works for magix.
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M***x 发帖数: 288 | 49 True...
I just lost my first USTA doubles match.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 4/29 works, 5/1 maybe, 5/2 works if at Vandergrift after 8 (I usually play : with a jr there at 6:30), 4/30 and 5/3 won't work for me. : experience dubs team vs single style players...
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