K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
心理很稳定。
有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。 | D****o
发帖数: 2249 | 2 说不清啊...感觉和性格有关
今年美网第一场对那豆的小伙子, 两盘都5:2领先. 多少局点盘点就那么一谢千里了
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 3 “稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已" 这就是心理影响啊，对手熟悉的话，
就知道你会怎么打了。很可能你一发不敢发得太刁钻，二发可能更弱。
当然如果这点变化对得分影响不大的话（比如针对这点也拿不出什么
武器的话），也就无所谓了。越是高手，这点可预知性就越容易被利用到。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 4 这个是偶主动选择的战术，如果会导致被对手吃透而攻击偶当然会调整。
偶的意思是没有体会到紧张或者动作变形（比如双误）的影响。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: “稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已" 这就是心理影响啊，对手熟悉的话，
: 就知道你会怎么打了。很可能你一发不敢发得太刁钻，二发可能更弱。
: 当然如果这点变化对得分影响不大的话（比如针对这点也拿不出什么
: 武器的话），也就无所谓了。越是高手，这点可预知性就越容易被利用到。
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 5 想减低UE，就是一种变形。比方回和平球之类的？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 这个是偶主动选择的战术，如果会导致被对手吃透而攻击偶当然会调整。
: 偶的意思是没有体会到紧张或者动作变形（比如双误）的影响。
| h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 6 不用局点赛点啊
只要跟人打比赛我就感觉自己小腿僵硬。。。。
大比分领先的时候还特容易崩盘。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 7 因为偶觉得这样得分机会高啊。
偶自己的局点或者破发点，偶一般就是攻击性调强一些，因为蒙上了就赢了，
蒙不上也没输。
对方破发点或者局点（根据对方特点而定，比如如果发球强，他的破发点偶
就会更保守），偶就调的稳定一点，因为输不起。统计上来讲这种时候狂攻
弊大于利，即时蒙着了也不能repeat.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 想减低UE，就是一种变形。比方回和平球之类的？
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 8 那就是说你从来没觉得任何运动中，你的mental对你造成过负面影响了？
我以前打乒乓球，如果打到duece，我大多数都输掉。所以我觉得我
的mental很差，不是一般的差。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 因为偶觉得这样得分机会高啊。
: 偶自己的局点或者破发点，偶一般就是攻击性调强一些，因为蒙上了就赢了，
: 蒙不上也没输。
: 对方破发点或者局点（根据对方特点而定，比如如果发球强，他的破发点偶
: 就会更保守），偶就调的稳定一点，因为输不起。统计上来讲这种时候狂攻
: 弊大于利，即时蒙着了也不能repeat.
| o**h
发帖数: 246 | 9 要是您的感觉真的靠谱, 应该始终贯彻. 网球就是统计, 机会高就成.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 因为偶觉得这样得分机会高啊。
: 偶自己的局点或者破发点，偶一般就是攻击性调强一些，因为蒙上了就赢了，
: 蒙不上也没输。
: 对方破发点或者局点（根据对方特点而定，比如如果发球强，他的破发点偶
: 就会更保守），偶就调的稳定一点，因为输不起。统计上来讲这种时候狂攻
: 弊大于利，即时蒙着了也不能repeat.
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 Mental有影响，但是不在关键分上，而是全场都有影响。如果偶发现
没啥招可以对付对手就会比较紧张，黔驴技穷效应。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 那就是说你从来没觉得任何运动中，你的mental对你造成过负面影响了？
: 我以前打乒乓球，如果打到duece，我大多数都输掉。所以我觉得我
: 的mental很差，不是一般的差。
| | | g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 11 全场当然也有影响，但是关键分想change strategy，更容易导致悲剧。
如果从来不因比分而change strategy的话，应该对关键分没影响。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Mental有影响，但是不在关键分上，而是全场都有影响。如果偶发现
: 没啥招可以对付对手就会比较紧张，黔驴技穷效应。
| i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 12 给你转一篇文章读读。
“It’s not about who chokes first, it’s about who chokes last.”
Harris Rosenblatt
USTA 5.5 League Champion, 2006; USPTR Certified Pro
Choking is something common in tennis competition with most of us being able
to recall at least one instance where we have done it.
In this article, we will explore both the causes of choking, so you know
what to avoid and what it takes to finish a match.
This article is focused towards tennis, however the same principles and
ideas apply to any sport, whether you are a competitor or coach.
Here Are Some of the Most Common Causes of Choking:
1) Momentum and Coasting:
We often think that there is such thing as momentum in a match that will
carry us to win more, without us doing much or applying ourselves. This is
distinct from match momentum, where one player is hot and the other is not.
What we are talking about here, which is a notorious cause of choking, is
the idea that there is some wind at out back, that if we stop putting in
effort, it will carry us to victory.
Oftentimes it comes with this idea that you have worked so hard up until now
, that all that work will carry you through to victory, and you can coast or
relax until the end. Wrong. Finishing takes as much or more effort as it
took to get you the lead in the first place. But we will get more into that
later.
This may sound silly now, but there is a point in a match where this is a
very real and valid thought in our minds, so we buy into, get lazy and choke
.
Here is an analogy. We often get caught thinking finishing a match is like
bike racing. We think that since we are so close to the finish line and have
worked so hard that we can stop peddling and coast to victory. We allow
this mindset to set in and then we choke. It is more like a footrace. You
have run hard until you see the finish line, and you have to keep running.
If you stop running, then you will be standing still and others will pass
you.
In tennis, you are either causing winning or causing losing. You are either
expanding your lead or blowing it.
2) “This Is Handled”
When close to winning, we often think that the match is “in the bag,” “
handled,” “done already,” or a similar notion pops up that has us start
to think that we have won before the match is actually over. This goes hand
in hand with the idea, thought or notion that the rest is going to be easy.
It is not going to be easy.
You know you are in this trap when you are still on the court thinking about
holding up the trophy, who you are going to tell that you won first or
already planning the victory party.
If you are doing this, your focus is not on what it is going to take to win
more points.
When you allow yourself to get in this mindset, you are likely to choke.
It is always the case that all that is left between you and victory is the
rest of the match.
3) Being Nice
Some people are just nice people on and off the court. Unfortunately, all of
a sudden the urge to be nice can kick in and cause you to choke. This
often happens for all of us nice people when we realize that we are about to
crush our opponent and we do not want him or her to feel bad. Then we start
to get worried, feel guilty and choke to spare their feelings. This is not
as common of a cause of choking as the first two, but very gripping for
those nice people out there.
What starts off as a little kindness can have a snowball effect and you can
get stuck in nice-mode. Instead of winning 1 and 0, it ends up going for 3
sets.
It is easy to forget that being nice has no place on the tennis court and
will actually make your opponent feel worst than being crushed.
4) “Oh My Gosh, I’m Going To Win”
One of the most dangerous causes of choking is thinking this when you are up
against a player who you previously decided that you could not beat. It is
also especially common when playing against someone who you think is better
than you.
If you indulge in these sentiments, it is highly likely that you will not
win. You will just about never prove yourself wrong. If you decided that
you cannot beat someone, then chances are, you will make it true.
Have you ever lost to someone that you thought you were better than and
should have beaten? Then you can beat someone that thinks they are better
than you and should beat you. NEVER honor the thought that you cannot or
will not beat someone.
How To Close:
First thing is to notice yourself getting into these traps. Now that we
have discussed them some, you can recognize them when they come up.
Avoiding the pitfalls of choking is 75% of closing a match.
Here Is The Other 25%:
One thing to realize to close out a match is you have tons of thoughts and
they come and go like the wind and you have no control over them. BUT what
you do have control over is which ones you pay attention to. So it takes
being conscience of your thoughts and letting go of the ones that are not
going to help you win.
What It Takes Is:
To finish the match, it takes being ruthless and strict with yourself and
really focusing on your game plan. Focus on being aggressive, playing your
game… focus on something. What was your focus that got you to almost
winning in the first place? If you do not have a mindset to employ for
yourself, then I highly recommend you take some time do so before your next
match.
It not only takes that, but an increased focus, effort and intentionality to
close out a match. You want to treat those last points like they are going
to be the hardest to earn points of the match, because a lot of times, they
are. It is going to take more focus and intentionality to close out the
match than to gain the lead. This is because your mind can often be
fighting against you and the other person is fighting for their life.
This is simple, but not easy, and if winning were easy, then everyone would
be doing it.
Mental toughness, just like anything else requires practice. Often times, we
expect instant results in this area, but it is a muscle to develop just
like any other muscles in you body.
David Groemping
Gemini Mental Toughness Training
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 13 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
心理很稳定。
有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。 | D****o
发帖数: 2249 | 14 说不清啊...感觉和性格有关
今年美网第一场对那豆的小伙子, 两盘都5:2领先. 多少局点盘点就那么一谢千里了
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 15 “稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已" 这就是心理影响啊，对手熟悉的话，
就知道你会怎么打了。很可能你一发不敢发得太刁钻，二发可能更弱。
当然如果这点变化对得分影响不大的话（比如针对这点也拿不出什么
武器的话），也就无所谓了。越是高手，这点可预知性就越容易被利用到。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 16 这个是偶主动选择的战术，如果会导致被对手吃透而攻击偶当然会调整。
偶的意思是没有体会到紧张或者动作变形（比如双误）的影响。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: “稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已" 这就是心理影响啊，对手熟悉的话，
: 就知道你会怎么打了。很可能你一发不敢发得太刁钻，二发可能更弱。
: 当然如果这点变化对得分影响不大的话（比如针对这点也拿不出什么
: 武器的话），也就无所谓了。越是高手，这点可预知性就越容易被利用到。
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 17 想减低UE，就是一种变形。比方回和平球之类的？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 这个是偶主动选择的战术，如果会导致被对手吃透而攻击偶当然会调整。
: 偶的意思是没有体会到紧张或者动作变形（比如双误）的影响。
| h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 18 不用局点赛点啊
只要跟人打比赛我就感觉自己小腿僵硬。。。。
大比分领先的时候还特容易崩盘。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 19 因为偶觉得这样得分机会高啊。
偶自己的局点或者破发点，偶一般就是攻击性调强一些，因为蒙上了就赢了，
蒙不上也没输。
对方破发点或者局点（根据对方特点而定，比如如果发球强，他的破发点偶
就会更保守），偶就调的稳定一点，因为输不起。统计上来讲这种时候狂攻
弊大于利，即时蒙着了也不能repeat.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 想减低UE，就是一种变形。比方回和平球之类的？
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 20 那就是说你从来没觉得任何运动中，你的mental对你造成过负面影响了？
我以前打乒乓球，如果打到duece，我大多数都输掉。所以我觉得我
的mental很差，不是一般的差。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 因为偶觉得这样得分机会高啊。
: 偶自己的局点或者破发点，偶一般就是攻击性调强一些，因为蒙上了就赢了，
: 蒙不上也没输。
: 对方破发点或者局点（根据对方特点而定，比如如果发球强，他的破发点偶
: 就会更保守），偶就调的稳定一点，因为输不起。统计上来讲这种时候狂攻
: 弊大于利，即时蒙着了也不能repeat.
| | | o**h
发帖数: 246 | 21 要是您的感觉真的靠谱, 应该始终贯彻. 网球就是统计, 机会高就成.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 因为偶觉得这样得分机会高啊。
: 偶自己的局点或者破发点，偶一般就是攻击性调强一些，因为蒙上了就赢了，
: 蒙不上也没输。
: 对方破发点或者局点（根据对方特点而定，比如如果发球强，他的破发点偶
: 就会更保守），偶就调的稳定一点，因为输不起。统计上来讲这种时候狂攻
: 弊大于利，即时蒙着了也不能repeat.
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 Mental有影响，但是不在关键分上，而是全场都有影响。如果偶发现
没啥招可以对付对手就会比较紧张，黔驴技穷效应。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 那就是说你从来没觉得任何运动中，你的mental对你造成过负面影响了？
: 我以前打乒乓球，如果打到duece，我大多数都输掉。所以我觉得我
: 的mental很差，不是一般的差。
| g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 23 全场当然也有影响，但是关键分想change strategy，更容易导致悲剧。
如果从来不因比分而change strategy的话，应该对关键分没影响。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Mental有影响，但是不在关键分上，而是全场都有影响。如果偶发现
: 没啥招可以对付对手就会比较紧张，黔驴技穷效应。
| i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 24 给你转一篇文章读读。
“It’s not about who chokes first, it’s about who chokes last.”
Harris Rosenblatt
USTA 5.5 League Champion, 2006; USPTR Certified Pro
Choking is something common in tennis competition with most of us being able
to recall at least one instance where we have done it.
In this article, we will explore both the causes of choking, so you know
what to avoid and what it takes to finish a match.
This article is focused towards tennis, however the same principles and
ideas apply to any sport, whether you are a competitor or coach.
Here Are Some of the Most Common Causes of Choking:
1) Momentum and Coasting:
We often think that there is such thing as momentum in a match that will
carry us to win more, without us doing much or applying ourselves. This is
distinct from match momentum, where one player is hot and the other is not.
What we are talking about here, which is a notorious cause of choking, is
the idea that there is some wind at out back, that if we stop putting in
effort, it will carry us to victory.
Oftentimes it comes with this idea that you have worked so hard up until now
, that all that work will carry you through to victory, and you can coast or
relax until the end. Wrong. Finishing takes as much or more effort as it
took to get you the lead in the first place. But we will get more into that
later.
This may sound silly now, but there is a point in a match where this is a
very real and valid thought in our minds, so we buy into, get lazy and choke
.
Here is an analogy. We often get caught thinking finishing a match is like
bike racing. We think that since we are so close to the finish line and have
worked so hard that we can stop peddling and coast to victory. We allow
this mindset to set in and then we choke. It is more like a footrace. You
have run hard until you see the finish line, and you have to keep running.
If you stop running, then you will be standing still and others will pass
you.
In tennis, you are either causing winning or causing losing. You are either
expanding your lead or blowing it.
2) “This Is Handled”
When close to winning, we often think that the match is “in the bag,” “
handled,” “done already,” or a similar notion pops up that has us start
to think that we have won before the match is actually over. This goes hand
in hand with the idea, thought or notion that the rest is going to be easy.
It is not going to be easy.
You know you are in this trap when you are still on the court thinking about
holding up the trophy, who you are going to tell that you won first or
already planning the victory party.
If you are doing this, your focus is not on what it is going to take to win
more points.
When you allow yourself to get in this mindset, you are likely to choke.
It is always the case that all that is left between you and victory is the
rest of the match.
3) Being Nice
Some people are just nice people on and off the court. Unfortunately, all of
a sudden the urge to be nice can kick in and cause you to choke. This
often happens for all of us nice people when we realize that we are about to
crush our opponent and we do not want him or her to feel bad. Then we start
to get worried, feel guilty and choke to spare their feelings. This is not
as common of a cause of choking as the first two, but very gripping for
those nice people out there.
What starts off as a little kindness can have a snowball effect and you can
get stuck in nice-mode. Instead of winning 1 and 0, it ends up going for 3
sets.
It is easy to forget that being nice has no place on the tennis court and
will actually make your opponent feel worst than being crushed.
4) “Oh My Gosh, I’m Going To Win”
One of the most dangerous causes of choking is thinking this when you are up
against a player who you previously decided that you could not beat. It is
also especially common when playing against someone who you think is better
than you.
If you indulge in these sentiments, it is highly likely that you will not
win. You will just about never prove yourself wrong. If you decided that
you cannot beat someone, then chances are, you will make it true.
Have you ever lost to someone that you thought you were better than and
should have beaten? Then you can beat someone that thinks they are better
than you and should beat you. NEVER honor the thought that you cannot or
will not beat someone.
How To Close:
First thing is to notice yourself getting into these traps. Now that we
have discussed them some, you can recognize them when they come up.
Avoiding the pitfalls of choking is 75% of closing a match.
Here Is The Other 25%:
One thing to realize to close out a match is you have tons of thoughts and
they come and go like the wind and you have no control over them. BUT what
you do have control over is which ones you pay attention to. So it takes
being conscience of your thoughts and letting go of the ones that are not
going to help you win.
What It Takes Is:
To finish the match, it takes being ruthless and strict with yourself and
really focusing on your game plan. Focus on being aggressive, playing your
game… focus on something. What was your focus that got you to almost
winning in the first place? If you do not have a mindset to employ for
yourself, then I highly recommend you take some time do so before your next
match.
It not only takes that, but an increased focus, effort and intentionality to
close out a match. You want to treat those last points like they are going
to be the hardest to earn points of the match, because a lot of times, they
are. It is going to take more focus and intentionality to close out the
match than to gain the lead. This is because your mind can often be
fighting against you and the other person is fighting for their life.
This is simple, but not easy, and if winning were easy, then everyone would
be doing it.
Mental toughness, just like anything else requires practice. Often times, we
expect instant results in this area, but it is a muscle to develop just
like any other muscles in you body.
David Groemping
Gemini Mental Toughness Training
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 好像听到很多人说打比赛有心理问题。但是据版上观察好像又有很多人
: 心理很稳定。
: 有问题的能具体说一下比如赛点盘点局点你的心理状况吗？偶自己也没觉得
: 心理能起到多少作用，关键分偶也就是稍微认真一点，争取不要UE而已，
: 该输的还是输，感觉根其他分数没什么区别。
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发帖数: 1032 | 25 Thanks for sharing. This is good stuff.
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【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 给你转一篇文章读读。
: “It’s not about who chokes first, it’s about who chokes last.”
: Harris Rosenblatt
: USTA 5.5 League Champion, 2006; USPTR Certified Pro
: Choking is something common in tennis competition with most of us being able
: to recall at least one instance where we have done it.
: In this article, we will explore both the causes of choking, so you know
: what to avoid and what it takes to finish a match.
: This article is focused towards tennis, however the same principles and
: ideas apply to any sport, whether you are a competitor or coach.
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