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c*********o
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我的一点炒股体会 www.6park.com
狭义上来说,人生下来就是一场不得不参加的金钱游戏。 www.6park.com
看到有些同学跟我一样喜欢做股票交易,很想跟同学们沟通一下心得体会,希望我们能
在今后的交易中作的更好一点,尽可能的少走弯路,尽可能的避免犯错误。 www.6park
.com
一、学习学习再学习 www.6park.com
炒股也好炒汇也好,不管是投资还是投机,这一行跟其他359行从本质上是一样的,那
就是需要花时间和精力去学习。我们知道,There are only two things you can
invest:Time and Money. Since most people do not invest much time,they lose
their money.在投入我们的bloody money之前,先问问自己我们投入了多少时间学习,
我的经验是,如果投入学习的时间越少,那么忍受套牢的时间越长。 www.6park.com
充分必要的学习可能不足以使我们赚大钱,但至少可以使我们不赔大钱。 www.6park.
com
关于该学点什么?这个范围就太大了,但是也无外乎技术分析,基本面分析两大类。我
的体会是,一定先能静下心来去读那些书,在我们这个岁数可能有点不容易,但是如果
你真的喜欢这行,那么读那些书本身就是享受和休息。 www.6park.com
我相信,The winners of the game are those who love the game most. www.6park.
com
二、CUT THE LOST,LET PROFIT RUN. www.6park.com
及时止损,让利润奔跑。这句话我体会最深,但执行起来又是最难。炒股票不是智商
150的战胜智商90的游戏,更主要的是心理素质的较量。当损失还小的时候,觉得不怕
,无所谓,当损失大的心疼的时候,往往下不去手,一切数字都填好了,就是按不下去
回车键,想再看看,左看右看,往往割肉与不割肉没太大区别了。 www.6park.com
俗话说,留得青山在不怕没柴烧;做股票是留的本金在不怕没钱赚。做股票还好一些,
大不了套上几年还会长回来,但是作外汇、期货交易强调这一点就更重要了。记得当时
跟我一起做外汇的十来个人,都是不忍心割肉止损,接二连三的爆仓了,都很惨,我是
寿命最长的,之所以至今还活着,就是在发现自己做反方向的时候敢于卸胳膊卸腿。
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及时止损--这是在这行生存的唯一法宝。 www.6park.com
如果被套了,轻则下岗,重则永久失业,不可掉以轻心。 www.6park.com
让利润奔跑,听上去简单,实际操作中你会发现持有获利的筹码实在是一件很痛苦的事
情,甚至比持有套牢的筹码更痛苦,每天面临兑现盈利的诱惑。我们大部分人是,一旦
被套了,就索性连看也不看了,很坦然,反正那点钱也不急着用,套着呗。等哪一天,
解套了,嗖一下子就跑了个干干净净,然后眼看着股价长到了月亮。 www.6park.com
我的经验是,要反着来,持有被套的股票要及时割肉,持有获利的股票相反要有耐心,
不要被轻易的震下马。中国股票的特色是,第5浪往往是延伸浪,也是最疯狂的。不是
有句话说,上帝欲使其灭亡,必先使其疯狂吗,在股价还没有疯狂之前,要能安心睡觉
。资本的本质特征就是增值性,资本的最大特点就是贪婪,绝对不要低估他们的贪婪程
度。 www.6park.com
归根结底,cut the lost,let the profit run 这句话应该当作纪律来执行。 www.
6park.com
三、上哪条船比什么时候上船更重要 www.6park.com
做股票,市场上的股票好几千只,不像期货和外汇,只有有限的十几个品种,我感觉做
股票最难的就是选股了。选对股就像老板选对了员工,你不用管他,他每天为你打工为
你贡献利润。 www.6park.com
我建议如果不是做短线或者波段,那就多花点时间在选股上,尽可能多地了解企业所在
的行业状况、了解企业未来的发展规划,分析企业的财务报表,比每天泡在市场上杀进
杀出的效果要好得多。 www.6park.com
大资金运作绝对不会是短期行为,而且基金经理们也绝对不会按照技术指标来决策的,
一定是基于严密的基本面分析,技术上的图形,很可能就是大资金刻意画出的呢。 www
.6park.com
一个67岁的老牌基金经理曾经对我说,Technical is not reliable.他的意思是做长期
投资,更重视的是基本面分析。我觉得中国的股票即使是企业的公告,作假的也太多了
,会让人防不胜防,尤其是那些重组啦,巨额亏损啦,签订重大合同了什么的大多是配
合炒作的噱头,据此操作风险太大,我会敬而远之。如果这些公司放在国外,早被罚的
破产了,但是在中国,吴敬琏有句话,中国的股市连赌场都不如,言外之意不必多说。
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决定做长期的股票,一定挑选仔细,用巴菲特劳先生的话说就是,拟投资的不是股票,
而是一个公司,如果对这个公司一点都不了解,确保这长期投资的打算,只能是盲人瞎
马,即使一时挣了钱,在下次亏掉也是十有八九。 www.6park.com
四、技术分析玩的就是概率 www.6park.com
做短线和波段的则以技术分析为主。 www.6park.com
技术分析是个很古老的行业,后来投资者发现其赢面并不大,十分不可靠,于是转投基
本面分析。随着计算机技术的应用和普及,网络的出现使得交易的变得十分简便,交易
成本十分低廉,于是短线交易在网络交易商的推波助澜之下,技术分析也从昔日的象牙
塔走向普通百姓,于是乎技术分析专家遍地都是,骗子满天飞。 www.6park.com
有句名言,股市没专家,只有赢家和输家。 www.6park.com
不是说技术分析不能赚钱,有,但是比例很低,用一将成万骨枯来形容最准确。 www.
6park.com
做短线对自身素质要求更高,首先每天必须要有充足的时间盯盘,其次要有充足的资本
,第三,要有自己一套成熟的交易系统。前两项比较好说,最难的是第三项交易系统,
这是花钱也买不到,花钱也学不来的,唯有自己摸索。所谓交易系统,就是一套尽可能
没有人的主观因素参与的买卖决策系统,到什么指标买进,见什么信号卖出,出现什么
情况止损,发现什么现象兑现利润,尽可能的没有人工的主观分析干预。其盈利模式是
依靠盈利的交易比率大于亏损交易的比率,和较高的风险报酬比来实现整体的盈利。
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在外汇市场中,因为市场规模太过庞大,主力做庄的可能性极小,因此,系统的稳定性
较好。但是在外汇和期货市场,主力做庄几乎每一只股票都有庄控制,因此,利用交易
系统实现盈利的更加困难。 www.6park.com
针对于此,大部分股票短线客实际上都是在做波段,靠的更多的是长期对几只股票的盯
盘,揣摩庄家的脾气秉性,熟悉庄家的拉升洗盘出货手法,做到知己知彼,靠的是经验
制胜。有的主力是技术派,实力一般,股票走势中规中矩。有的股票庄家财大气粗,股
票走势随心所欲,拉升起来凶狠彪悍,砸盘起来也让人胆战心惊。这就看个人的喜好了
,我只参与自己能看明白的股票,看不明白的,不去碰运气,只欣赏。 www.6park.com
做短线最忌讳的就是短线长做,本来是博短线差价进场的,错了以后不及时退出,因为
舍不得割肉,改作长期投资了,这叫做跨周期交易。本来是看60分钟图进场的,那就不
要看日线图出场。 www.6park.com
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五、杠杆 www.6park.com
The difference between the rich and the poor is leaverge. www.6park.com
最近这几年炒房子的人都大有斩获,其实并不是他们投资房子赚了多少,而是,利用了
银行的财务杠杆,用10万、20万的首付做了100万的投资,这个杠杆才是致富的根本。
你敢利用财务杠杆投资房子,你敢不敢利用财务杠杆投资股票呢? www.6park.com
你可能会说,"I can't do that"或者 oh! "It's too risky" or "I can't afford it
".这样想说明心理很阴暗,不阳光。正确的心智模式应该是想, "how can I do that"
,"How can I reduce my risk?.... www.6park.com
有个笑话讲得很有道理,老婆因为老公从银行贷了几百万而发愁的睡不着觉,半夜起来
问老公:我们带了那么多款,如果换不起了该怎么办呢?老公回答说:这是银行正发愁
的睡不着觉的问题,不是你该操心的。 www.6park.com
大多数人舍得花心思省钱,只有少数人愿意花心思赚钱。 www.6park.com
六、我的一点分享
(翻译挺累人的,没翻译完,剩下的部分凑合着看吧,不难) www.6park.com
Time Tested Classic Trading Rules
<历经时间洗礼的经典交易规则> www.6park.com
1. Plan your trades. Trade your plan.
先计划你的交易,然后照计划去交易. www.6park.com
2. Keep records of your trading results.
保存记录你的交易结果. www.6park.com
3. Keep a positive attitude, no matter how much you lose.
保持积极的心态,无论你遭受多大损失. www.6park.com
4. Don't take the market home.
直译:别把市场带回家.
意译:不要过度沉湎于市场,张弛有度,利于身体,利于交易. www.6park.com
5. Continually set higher trading goals.
持续制定越来越高的赢利目标 www.6park.com
6. Successful traders buy into bad news and sell into good news.
成功的交易员在利空最多的时候买入,而在一系列利好的时候卖出 www.6park.com
7. Successful traders are not afraid to buy high and sell low.
成功的交易员不怕追高和杀跌 www.6park.com
8. Successful traders have a well-scheduled planned time for studying the
markets.
成功的交易员会制定合理的时间学习了解市场 www.6park.com
9. Successful traders isolate themselves from the opinions of others.
成功的交易员不会盲目附和别人的观点 www.6park.com
10. Continually strive for patience, perseverance, determination, and
rational action.
持之以恒的耐心,纪律,当机立断,行为理智. www.6park.com
11. Limit your losses - use stops!
用止损控制限制你的损失 www.6park.com
12. Never cancel a stop loss order after you have placed it!
决不取消止损单. www.6park.com
13. Place the stop at the time you make your trade.
开仓单和止损单同时进场. www.6park.com
14. Never get into the market because you are anxious because of waiting.
决不因为等待的不耐烦而进场. www.6park.com
15. Avoid getting in or out of the market too often.
避免太频繁交易. www.6park.com
16. Losses make the trader studious - not profits. Take advantage of every
loss to improve your knowledge of market action. www.6park.com
17. The most difficult task in speculation is not prediction but self-
control. Successful trading is difficult and frustrating. You are the most
important element in the equation for success. www.6park.com
18. Always discipline yourself by following a pre-determined set of rules.
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19. Remember that a bear market will give back in one month what a bull
market has taken three months to build. www.6park.com
20. Don't ever allow a big winning trade to turn into a loser. Stop yourself
out if the market moves against you 20% from your peak profit point. www.
6park.com
21. You must have a program, you must know your program, and you must follow
your program. www.6park.com
你必须有一套系统,必须了解你的系统,且必须服从于你的系统.
22. Expect and accept losses gracefully. Those who brood over losses always
miss the next opportunity, which more than likely will be profitable. www.
6park.com
23. Split your profits right down the middle and never risk more than 50% of
them again in the market. www.6park.com
24. The key to successful trading is knowing yourself and your stress point.
成功交易的关键在于你了解自己和自己的承受极限. www.6park.com
25. The difference between winners and losers isn't so much native ability
as it is discipline exercised in avoiding mistakes. www.6park.com
26. In trading as in fencing there are the quick and the dead. www.6park.com
27. Speech may be silver but silence is golden. Traders with the golden
touch do not talk about their success. www.6park.com
28. Dream big dreams and think tall. Very few people set goals too high. A
man becomes what he thinks about all day long. www.6park.com
29. Accept failure as a step towards victory. www.6park.com
30. Have you taken a loss? Forget it quickly. Have you taken a profit?
Forget it even quicker! Don't let ego and greed inhibit clear thinking and
hard work. www.6park.com
31. One cannot do anything about yesterday. When one door closes, another
door opens. The greater opportunity always lies through the open door. www.
6park.com
32. The deepest secret for the trader is to subordinate his will to the will
of the market. The market is truth as it reflects all forces that bear upon
it. As long as he recognizes this he is safe. When he ignores this, he is
lost and doomed. www.6park.com
33. It's much easier to put on a trade than to take it off. www.6park.com
34. If a market doesn't do what you think it should do, get out. www.6park.
com
35. Beware of large positions that can control your emotions. Don't be
overly aggressive with the market. Treat it gently by allowing your equity
to grow steadily rather than in bursts. www.6park.com
36. Never add to a losing position.
永不增加失利的头寸. www.6park.com
37. Beware of trying to pick tops or bottoms. www.6park.com
38. You must believe in yourself and your judgement if you expect to make a
living at this game.
如果想要在这个游戏中生存,你必须相信自己和自己的判断. www.6park.com
39. In a narrow market there is no sense in trying to anticipate what the
next big movement is going to be - up or down. www.6park.com
40. A loss never bothers me after I take it. I forget it overnight. But
being wrong and not taking the loss - that is what does the damage to the
pocket book and to the soul. www.6park.com
41. Never volunteer advice and never brag of your winnings. www.6park.com
42. Of all speculative blunders, there are few greater than selling what
shows a profit and keeping what shows a loss. www.6park.com
43. Standing aside is a position. www.6park.com
44. It is better to be more interested in the market's reaction to new
information than in the piece of news itself. www.6park.com
45. If you don't know who you are, the markets are an expensive place to
find out. www.6park.com
46. In the world of money, which is a world shaped by human behavior, nobody
has the foggiest notion of what will happen in the future. Mark that word -
Nobody! Thus the successful trader does not base moves on what supposedly
will happen but reacts instead to what does happen. www.6park.com
47. Except in unusual circumstances, get in the habit of taking your profit
too soon. Don't torment yourself if a trade continues winning without you.
Chances are it won't continue long. If it does, console yourself by thinking
of all the times when liquidating early reserved gains that you would have
otherwise lost. www.6park.com
48. When the ship starts to sink, don't pray - jump!
当船要刚开始沉的时候,不要祈祷--跳
(我理解的意思):不是好的头寸,尽早丢弃.
49. Lose your opinion - not your money. www.6park.com
50. Assimilate into your very bones a set of trading rules that works for
you.
w******i
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thanks for sharing
f********n
发帖数: 1560
3
像这样的转贴,多多益善。

6park

【在 c*********o 的大作中提到】
: 我的一点炒股体会 www.6park.com
: 狭义上来说,人生下来就是一场不得不参加的金钱游戏。 www.6park.com
: 看到有些同学跟我一样喜欢做股票交易,很想跟同学们沟通一下心得体会,希望我们能
: 在今后的交易中作的更好一点,尽可能的少走弯路,尽可能的避免犯错误。 www.6park
: .com
: 一、学习学习再学习 www.6park.com
: 炒股也好炒汇也好,不管是投资还是投机,这一行跟其他359行从本质上是一样的,那
: 就是需要花时间和精力去学习。我们知道,There are only two things you can
: invest:Time and Money. Since most people do not invest much time,they lose
: their money.在投入我们的bloody money之前,先问问自己我们投入了多少时间学习,

a****o
发帖数: 298
4
都是废话,没有一点实际价值

6park

【在 c*********o 的大作中提到】
: 我的一点炒股体会 www.6park.com
: 狭义上来说,人生下来就是一场不得不参加的金钱游戏。 www.6park.com
: 看到有些同学跟我一样喜欢做股票交易,很想跟同学们沟通一下心得体会,希望我们能
: 在今后的交易中作的更好一点,尽可能的少走弯路,尽可能的避免犯错误。 www.6park
: .com
: 一、学习学习再学习 www.6park.com
: 炒股也好炒汇也好,不管是投资还是投机,这一行跟其他359行从本质上是一样的,那
: 就是需要花时间和精力去学习。我们知道,There are only two things you can
: invest:Time and Money. Since most people do not invest much time,they lose
: their money.在投入我们的bloody money之前,先问问自己我们投入了多少时间学习,

z****u
发帖数: 305
5
炒股要成功,是道和术的结合。
f**********8
发帖数: 326
6
对,九阴真经是必练的

【在 z****u 的大作中提到】
: 炒股要成功,是道和术的结合。
a********y
发帖数: 1262
7
收藏了 3x

6park

【在 c*********o 的大作中提到】
: 我的一点炒股体会 www.6park.com
: 狭义上来说,人生下来就是一场不得不参加的金钱游戏。 www.6park.com
: 看到有些同学跟我一样喜欢做股票交易,很想跟同学们沟通一下心得体会,希望我们能
: 在今后的交易中作的更好一点,尽可能的少走弯路,尽可能的避免犯错误。 www.6park
: .com
: 一、学习学习再学习 www.6park.com
: 炒股也好炒汇也好,不管是投资还是投机,这一行跟其他359行从本质上是一样的,那
: 就是需要花时间和精力去学习。我们知道,There are only two things you can
: invest:Time and Money. Since most people do not invest much time,they lose
: their money.在投入我们的bloody money之前,先问问自己我们投入了多少时间学习,

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